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/u/kioma47 this dumbass doesn't just drink the Kool-Aid, he's literally swimming in it. Liberals control the media, higher education, entertainment, and most of the federal bureaucracy. How can one person be so unbelievably ignorant of reality?
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I know people who actually believe evangelicals
control the government and are waiting to come out of the shadows to take oligarchical control of the US.
Yes, they all did grow up watching late night talk shows and standard cable TV shows that had a lot of "progressive" non-sequiturs.
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The issue with progs is that they typically don't grow up.
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Why are these people still basing their opinions of what the news tells them. Haven't we already got enough recent records to prove that there is no country with actually unbiased news?
The saying the highest award in journ*lism is getting assassinated exists for a reason, and we have all run out of actually journ*lists decades ago.
Do they not realize how often the west actively turns a blind eye to Jewish psyops in the middle east, or the Saudi torture sites, or the American blacksites still active in current year, or the records of media corps being owned by multimillionaires and billionaires, or the additional funding of media corps coming form the government based on them disseminating the "correct" opinion?
The truth is dead. Maybe it always was.
The only thing you can depend on is direct experiences now to define the world that is to be lived in and built up further.
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I agree with that, yet if you only depend on direct experiences, you lose the ability to learn from other people, other places, from history, etc. Journos are all lying scum, but there are certain basic rules they play by (e.g., the NYT did a fact based piece about St. Kyle a day or two after they tried to martyr Him that debunked a lot of the leftie narratives that were being pushed when big tech was still sweeping hard because they classified it as a "mass shooting"), and you can still learn things from the news. But you have to cross reference it with your lived experiences (as a proud Muslim transwoman of color) and with critical thinking to identify double standards and inconsistencies.
The other thing about journos is that they often undermine themselves by seething and spewing biased language when spinning their narratives. It makes me want to disagree with them solely based on what they wrote even if I happen to agree with them.
There are no easy answers, and retreating into disbelieving everything you read can be just as limiting as believing everything the news says even the parts that contradict the other parts and changed 5 minutes ago. Consider these statements: No one I know voted for Trump/Harris, no one I know died of COVID, no one I know was injured by vaccine side effects, no one I know has gotten lung cancer from smoking, etc.
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you have half the answer. Somehow still better the journos.
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That was a mistake. You're about to find out the hard way why.
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The persecution complex of libs passionately competes with the persecution complex of rightoids
!grillers
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Conservoids say that libs control the government and libtards say that warhawk McCarthyists control the government.
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Like Cheney? The Cheney who endorsed the Kamala who campaigned with his daughter? At the very least neocons are nicely distributed across both major US parties by this point so that's half Dem control too.
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the reality is no one controls the govts (except the jews from time too time),and it's basically stagnated with late 20th century policy_____
I stand with Israel, and they will stand within the fucking us
@H ahahaha
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They send all their time on Reddit dot com
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!burgers are doomed, looks like all the blue-state blue-hairs are moving to red-states to make them blue-states
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The people moving out of Oregon probably just came here from California so I don't think that should count.
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The people moving out of blue states tend to be more conservative than the red states they're moving to
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beto actually would have won vs cruz without texas migrants. native texans vote more democrat than the migrant ones.
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Joke is on the blue states. They move to red states to turn them light red. They are replaced in blue states by immigrants who are light red. In the end everybody becomes less blue and you end up with light red as the final color.
You cannot have mass immigration and ever more liberal values at the same time. Literally impossible for a progressive white nation.
This is why globalized liberalism is so important, and it is not going to get any further than "tolerating" gays.
As the world begins to globalize further with nations ending up with minority populations that number at more than 10-20% of the nations population, we are not just going to see a decrease in the extremes of conservative values, but also a decrease in the extremes of liberal values.
So as the chop clits movement dies out in Africa, so does the suck the sheenis bigot movement in the west. Just as Bacha bazi ends in Afghanistan. So too does tolerating gay reproduction methods in the west. Just as the burka disappears as a mandatory face covering, so too does the tolerance for drag story hour.
We are moving towards the mean, and we are lucky that even in the worst case scenario that still means that society will keep getting richer, and the world will keep being tolerant of the majority of the population including minorities that do not cause active harm or active attacks on the majority.
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Mommy is soooo proud of you, sweaty. Let's put this sperg out up on the fridge with all your other failures.
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But how will they get access to abortions and bathtub hormone concoctions
But in all reality Californians are moving to Las Vegas and Phoenix like they have been since at least 2000.
A 1995 home built in Phoenix for 200k got close to 1M during the 2007 bubble and I think they might be bubbled up again.
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Lmao how do you even track that.
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Easy when there's only 400 people total
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lol, good luck with climate change_____
I stand with Israel, and they will stand within the fucking us
@H ahahaha
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Wrong, the people moving from blue states are chuds
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I don't get this chart.
Does this mean people are migrating en masse to states like North Dakota and Mississippi, while states like California and Illinois are bleeding people? I assumed it'd be the other way around tbh
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yes, they are migrating from blue to red states, two main reasons I hear are
Lower cost of living
Lower taxes
also Increase in remote opportunities which seems to be decreasing now
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The article opens with quotes from the nineteenth century. In the nineteenth century there was a literal open frontier. The quotes all imply that Americans moved a lot because they were so smart and American, but of course people moved here from all over the world because there was an open frontier.
When we christened the statue of liberty we chose a poem that proudly proclaimed that we would take the huddled teeming masses of the world. The frontier had closed up so recently that people perhaps were not even aware. Now we scream to build a wall to keep the masses out. This is because what it meant to be American originally depended on an undeveloped frontier. The culture in this way was downstream of the material, economic circumstances. Those circumstances changed a long time ago, and so what it means to be American will also change.
!commies these kinds of brain dead conversations happen constantly among people who have never for one second considered that historical materialism is perhaps mostly true.
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The other big difference is we didn't have welfare.
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The frontier is no longer physical. Americans without the intellect to explore the metaphysical frontier have been locked out of the American dream.
Meanwhile, high IQ gigachad foreigners like
@Salvadore_Ally_Chud freely partake. This kills the white
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Okay but the article in the reddit thread is droning on about physically moving.
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I was building on your point, I agree that the article is entirely off base
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So we need to colonize mars so we have a place to send the immigrants is what you're saying.
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ive tried to explain this to people a few times but i mostly get blank stares. its wild how this obvious historical fact is so immaterial to our understanding of ourselves. we have no clue why we were what we were
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https://old.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1imhfct/how_progressives_froze_the_american_dream/mc707je/?context=8
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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actual tangible example of lack of media literacy
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Are there any actual neoliberals left there? Or have they completed the Reddit decent in
commie heck
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The last of the old guard was purged after the election for saying "Maybe centering the party around niche Progressive causes was a bad idea." To which the
Jannies said "OH SO YOU WANT TO THROW TRANS PEOPLE UNDER THE BUS? ITS LE TERALLY GENOCIDE!" It's why you see the NYT's called far right.
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NYT is a far right rag that stays afloat swallowing Musk's c*m shots.
VOX IS NEOLIBERALISM
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