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.... you think pornstars are weird about their pics being shown to family memebers because it's "degrading"? you can't think of any other reason why? (83)

Why would they care if they didn't think it was shameful deep down? (-15)

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So why on earth are you focusing on the victims and not the perpetrators? If it's degrading because men treat them badly, then the solution is to STOP MEN FROM TREATING THEM BADLY. yet here you are degrading the women for itWhere's the accountability for men? (22)

Chicken or the egg. Horny men or available prostitutes. (-14)

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It's mostly degrading because they end up having s*x with cruel misogynists who actively want to degrade them. Which unfortunately isn't exclusive to s*x workers (32)

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You wrote a lot, but I want to focus on this part first:You are merely axiomatically asserting your view. Lets ignore that axioms are on first principles, not moral claims.I can also just axiomatically assert that prostitution is not "work".Sure. But you cannot claim that your moral assertions are objective. Deconstructionalism cuts both ways, not just when you want it to. If you deconstruct that prostitution is no different than any other job with no moral quality, such that it isn't "work", and do so by means of deconstructing s*x to a mere physical act in exchange for payment, then you must equally concede that degrading women is no different than any other physical act with no moral quality.Again, you can't have it both ways. Pick your poison. (0)

Neither can you. If modernism was truly capable of definitely proving these unyielding objective standards, post-modernism never would've existed. It's all people debating their own personal lines in the sand at the end of the day, I simply happen to believe my line's a good one.Nope, I really don't have to actually. Prostitution is no different because it literally is no different. Nothing about working for a coal mine—breaking your body and poisoning your lungs for money—is in any definable capacity different from being a prostitute. In both contexts, your body is functionally up for purchase to service the one paying. In on instance you serve them by mining coal, in the other you serve them by sucking their peepee. But it's all service and sacrifice in exchange for money. But degrading women is distinctly different from any other physical act. Some physical acts don't degrade women—some uplift women even! There is a fundamental difference between, for example, me handing you $100 a... (1)

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Sexual fantasies are vast and variable, so calling what you see in pornography "the worst contortions of sexuality" is heavily judgmental and subjective and can be applied to anything. That sentiment has historically been applied to homosexuality, transexuality, kink, interracial s*x, etc, typically with the goal of discouraging or even regulating people's private lives.Furthermore, art reflects human nature as much as it informs it. A misogynist will be a misogynist whether or not they watch porn or pay for prostitution, and much of what is popular in pornography reflects fantasies that are not inherently misogynistic. Pornography may expose a person to fantasy situations they were not aware of, but whether or not those situations speak to the real-life desires of the viewer is up to the viewer. After all, the vast majority of people who watch slasher horror films go on to live normal, non-homicidal lives. (3)

I'm not describing all pornography when saying that: I'm saying that alongside whatever else it shows, it also undeniably presents images of sexual violence and treats women's bodies as objects to be commodified. There may be a perfect world out there somewhere in which this is not the case, and where every customer treats s*x workers with respect and dignity, but that is not our world.The hand-waving approach adopted by some in this thread — not saying you, necessarily — completely fails to account for the often grim reality in favor of an idealized version that's nothing more than a hypothetical. The fact is that women are still, in many places and cases, treated as objects to be owned, used, and in the very worst of cases, traded. To act like a culture which has the commodification of women's bodies at its centre doesn't play into these trends is disingenuous.The slasher comparison doesn't hold up because there is not as clear a delineation between fantasy and reality in the case... (1)

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There is a fundamental problem with this argument. When people say an individual choosing to do s*x work, porn or prostitution, isn't any more exploitative than any other job, they are arguing because the excuse against making it legal is always that the "government" doesn't want to encourage the exploitation of people. All capitalist jobs exploit their workers time, bodies and money, but there are protections in place for those kinds of jobs. A large amount of what makes s*x work so dangerous and awful is that there are very few standards, the illegality of it encourages pimps, trafficking and prevents the reporting of r*pes and abuse. The stigma around s*x work is less about the puritanical and religious shame, and more that suddenly society says to these people they are no longer people. They are objects and dirty objects at that. Jesus Christ hung out with prostitutes so it wasn't that deep for the son of God if that's your thing. Your argument that it is degrading and exploitat... (1)

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