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If any of you think Trump/Vance's meltdown in the oval office was based, you're unironically r-slurred or Russian

frick it i'm pizzashill posting now

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Where the frick did you get that from?

u claiming defending ukraine is like vietnam and propping up an unpopular govt ... like where tf did u get that from???

You can't join a defensive alliance while actively being invaded

no u dummy, sign the ceasefire, then allow ukraine to join nato.

NATO doesn't actually want to fight WWIII with Russia even if they'd probably win.

honestly man, maybe it comes down to that, and that's just a consequence of totally fricking up the management of the fall of the ussr. climate change over the next 100 years is gunna cause some really wacky shit to go down if we don't fix our broken nation state geopolitically system.

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u claiming defending ukraine is like vietnam and propping up an unpopular govt ... like where tf did u get that from???

I'm saying that putting boots on the ground will result in an unending war where the moment you withdraw the Ukraine government falls. Russia's entire doctrine requires that they would never concede such a war, and Ukraine no longer has the strength to stand alone. It should be obvious.

no u dummy, sign the ceasefire, then allow ukraine to join nato.

Watch as Russia reinvades the very moment such a treaty is rumoured.

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u think russia with a pop of 150mil can outlast nato with a pop of almost a billion when they haven't even managed to fully invade a country with 30 mil? it doesn't matter what their doctrine says when physical resources are limited.

why did we ever come to the bongs aid in WW1 or 2? this is pathetic.

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Russia doesn't need to worry about their population losing enthusiasm for the war. Burgers can't stand to take significant losses, even if they have greater numbers and tech. I wouldn't underestimate that difference in culture.

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us burgers have been in some war or another for like 225 out of our 243 years of our existence. who else has anywhere even near that kinda pedigree??

I wouldn't underestimate that difference in culture.

i wouldn't over estimate it either.

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Yeah? How did the last few turn out?

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it's not like russia hasn't had a string a frickups too. invasion is hard. this wouldn't be invasion.

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