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Ping HeyMoon if there are any problems or you have a suggestion
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The way redditors are trying to spin this is wild. The only reasonable interpretation is that a freeloading jew (not jewish enough) got kicked off the gravy train.
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chuds are so r-slurred I'm unironically going full zionist/globalist/whatever peepeesucking mode for the rest of my life
the USA deserves to be a vassal of the EU and/or Israel
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I'm starting to like China more since at least they aren't slave to Jews
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We are though. We have jewish people in high ranks of our party since its founding, and we protected jewish people in Shanghai and Harbin during the Shoah. Many jewish people settled in Henan. Israel is our greatest ally and sold us many tech we needed to build up our army to compete with the USA.
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Sounds to me like the Jews are slaves to chinks. My respect for Xi has never been higher
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Build
a military
force
worth enforcing that first, bum
!burgers
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Dude we can't even recruit zoomer non-fats/non-r-slurs into our military lmao
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Kind of hard for us to become a vassal of our vassals and we already are a vassal of Israel.
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did you forget how the US was founded?
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No, we were founded by God to piss on the euros.
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It's vassalception
Bigot
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Boy do i have news for you
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If you don't think Trump and Vance looked like r-slurred cute twinks in front of the world, well, you're an r-slured cute twink.
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!commenters
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All I saw was a slavic manlet made two b-words whine
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All I saw was a tiny petulant begger showing up to the most important meeting of his country's existence wearing a JOGGING SUIT. Pm
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You're right, should have dropped his pants and peepee slapped that fat r-slur in a suit and his three cucks on the couch too.
That meeting was a farce with zero security guarantees and a frick you to the Ukrainian people and on top a one sided mineral extraction.
Thank you burgers for voting that imbecile in, hilarious!
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Are you being dropped on your head at this moment?
The Ukraine is corrupt.
Bigot
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Dumbass
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Bitchskyy should have shown respect and taken off the jogging pants and have taken a course in manners
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God you're an insufferable Kraut.
Hope you voted FDP.
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And burgers should be reminded of this every half century
There is not a single party more
then them, chud
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I woulda been blastin his bussy in college ngl
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!nonchuds
Should Zelensky have moved his country a few hundred miles south or what?
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Legitimate BPD foid behavior from Vance in that meeting.
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I had flashbacks to my Grad School GF
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Why did he start discussing details of the plan instead of waiting for the closed door deal?
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Unironically r-slurred take
Chuds are such pathetic cute twinks
Meanwhile they spend their time larping as epic alpha trad warriors lol
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Not my problem.
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It is though. Western influence, if not interference, plays a big part in the situation between Russia and its neighbors.
You're also cucking out in front of the one country that hates you the most on the entire planet and showing to all your rivals that if they attack an "ally", you'll do nothing.
"America first" doesn't mean "America alone"
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It's cucked to spend billions to subside Euro defense while they smugpost about how much better their healthcare is than yours, about how you're fat and stupid etc.
Europe has become slovenly during Pax Americana and it's allowed their elite to flood their continent with stabby male feminists while denigrating their culture.
This will be beneficial for Europeans; it'll force them to get back in the drivers seat and they may be great again. MEGA. !chuds
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I don't care. Nobody is going to attack us. Protecting europoors gets us nothing.
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Yes, defending allies and weakening your rivals gets you nothing. That's the brilliant foreign policy that cemented the US as a superpower.
lol chuds malding, seething and coping hard ITT
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What has Europe ever done for us, and what could they even hypothetically do for us? If Russia/China invaded the US, Europe would be able to do... what exactly to help? They're useless leeches.
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What could a million and a half military personnel with nearly as many tanks and planes as the US do in a war, I wonder... Not including the UK and other non-EU members.
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How about they use that military to protect themselves? Why are their diplomats crying about US protection being taken away?
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Went to Afghanistan to fight alongside you when you asked us, for one.
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And you've cried about it for decades. Maybe you got enough mileage outta that one?
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Only one nation has ever invoked Article 5
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You r-slur, you import so much advanced european machinery, its unfunny how economically illiterate burgers are.
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We should be building our own anyway. Same deal with chips from Taiwan. Relying on thirdies for technology is a terrible idea.
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!slots200
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!slots115
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Why die for Czechoslovakia?
Why die for Poland?
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Western influence is the tip of a nuclear warhead BIPOC.
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Bad bait.
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Ukraine has no choice but to surrender unless we start WW3 against Russia why would we do that for some tiny proxy state
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Nah, they sperged out in the middle of a media conference about nothing.
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Maybe you enjoy giving away your money forever but I don't want them to give away my money. You can go personally paypig for Ukraine if you want.
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Spoken like a poor.
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Rich people famously love wasting money and getting nothing in return.
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Shutting down the gravy train due to a petulant child screeching "GIVE MONEY NOW" is based and the right thing to do.
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I am not a Zelensky supporter. I think Zelensky's lack of sufficient escalation and his constant begging to join NATO have been a disaster and I don't like his face. However, this is not "freeloading". Ukraine gave up 5000 nuclear weapons in exchange for a promise from America that they would assist with any violations of its borders and any conflict that came as a result of nuclear threats against it. Russia has done both. They aren't freeloading. They're asking America to honor the agreement. The 100 billion dollars Ukraine received -- less than 2% of what we spent (adjusted to post-COVID dollars) in Afghanistan (a country we had no casus belli against or reasonable excuse to even be in at all), is a small bit of interest on this obligation.
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Russia gave that promise too. It meant nothing and never has. This is why countries without nukes should always invest in their military, but Ukraine was a lazy turd of a country that didn't shit for decades and now it's clamoring for subsidies to dig itself out of its own grave. Frick 'em.
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Ukrainians never considered the promises of Russia worth anything. Most people assumed American promises were, which is why they were doing it at the behest of the United States. In contrast, Ukraine would have preferred to keep its nukes, but the anglo world was fixated on nuclear deproliferation as a political fad at the time. So we made them an offer they can't refuse. Europe also wanted them to keep the nukes, and objected to the disarmament. They wanted a nuclear-armed buffer state between them and Russia, which is why they are now so furious that Americans are telling them to pay for Ukraine. It is essentially saying that they should pay for the consequences of American actions.
Americans think this will be consequence free but collectively Europe owns more American debt than any other entity, and is the only currently liquid market for American debt. People freak out about all the billions of treasuries China owns and how much influence that buys over our economy, but the UK and Belgium together own more. So do Luxembourg, Ireland, and Switzerland. Imagine telling the guy that owns the note on your building to eat shit and pay your gambling debts.
This is a deep mistake that will taint Trump's legacy for generations. People celebrated Reagan for decades for breaking down the Berlin Wall. History's primary summary of Trump might be betraying Ukraine to support the rise of a new Islamic variant of the Soviet Union, and the economic disaster of Europe breaking ties with the dollar. Great trade for 600 deportations a day.
Ukraine was the poorest country in Europe, its banks had been left with nothing by the Soviet Union and people pinch every penny all year long just to afford to pay their gas for the winter. I don't know where you think these massive military infrastructure investments were going to come from.
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True, as were the Russians who all but owned those nuclear weapons. Ukraine couldn't afford them, but they never had a choice since they weren't theirs as far as real world rights go.
And they'll keep buying their debt. Eurobeans collectively have near-zero global influence because they can barely project power beyond their own borders, and they do not come off as serious given their r-slurred immigration policy and regression of civil liberties.
It's actually one of the richest countries in fertile soil and minerals, but they're so corrupt and r-slurred, they fricked themselves over during the post-Soviet Union transition.
You can say the same of any of their r-slurred public policies. Again, they're an incompetent country, and they should've invested more in their military.
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R-slurred zigger propaganda. Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, and had physical possession of the weapons, which is 9/10ths. But even if we disregard that -- Ukraine was certainly entitled, on dissolution of the state, to some equitable distribution of all resources, including nuclear weapons. They gave up their share in the nukes in exchange for a promise from America.
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R-slur, the Russians were already shipping back those nukes before Ukraine even said, "okay." You don't know what you're talking about because you're a hyped up Eurotard who doesn't understand how pointless and powerless his EU really is.
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R-slurred statement. Yes, somewhat true in that such was happening in heavily ethnically Russian areas like Kharkiv. But less so in the most Western facilities like Lviv and Volhyn, where most of the nukes were (as they were closer to Europe and thus capable of being launched at targets further in.) Because that shit is entirely Ukrainian controlled, and people in Lviv took control of the roads immediately.
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