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[๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜] Yes, "just use birth control" is a valid an argument against abortion and no, women are not oppressed by the current state level abortion bans.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/comments/1j4xkur/yes_just_use_birth_control_is_a_valid_an_argument/

								

								

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I don't think OP has ever had a girlfriend. (96)

That's true. But it's because I'm short, so making fun of me for that is body shaming. (-59)

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Even when used perfectly, all birth control has an option for failure. Plan B can also fail, especially for women who are above average weight. And then many women do not have the financial means to travel for an abortion.Abortions are no one's primary form of birth control. They are a last resort option. They are used when everything else fails, or when something goes wrong with a very wanted pregnancy. Without the ability to access abortions, women lose their last resort.There are documented cases of women dying because something has gone horribly wrong with much wanted pregnancies and doctors unable to remove the fetus because that's considered an abortion. Women have been thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, because they've been suspected of self-aborting. Harsh laws against abortion are actively hurting women, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with birth control. I want a right to an abortion not because I don't want a child. I want a right to an abortion in ca... (95)

This is nonsense propaganda (-48)

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But maybe it means you aren't fully educated on this topic if you don't have experience (35)

Ah so having a gf is now a qualifier for talking about abortion? That's a new one. (-26)

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Taking away people's medical autonomy is oppression, even if you disagree with some of their life choices. (4)

I would add that depriving people of health care is violence. Not kinda like violence or some sort of comparison, but actual, real, literal violence. I don't know how it is that we often think of violence only as physical violence. There are several other forms and they somehow get left out of the conversation.Health care being contingent on having a job is violence. Being threatened with eviction is violence. Being denied the ability to make decisions regarding your body is violence. (1)

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1) r*pe exists2) birth control fails (my mother failed birth control three times which is how I got my siblings)3) this argument still doesn't address the Judith Jarvis Thomson evictionist argument4) severe fetal abnormalities exist 5) honor killings exist (such that for some people it might be a life or death issue that their family simply cannot find out that they were pregnant)6) Men who sabotage their condoms exist (I guess that might be considered a kind of r*pe)7) pregnancy is sometimes a threat to the life or long term health of the woman, and these problems cannot always be anticipated in advance (1)

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I'm not sure what you mean here. And this contains a lot of allegations and unverified info (0)

That's why she is suing the hospital."On 19 September 2023, when Watts was about 21 weeks into a wanted pregnancy, she went to the hospital after she started experiencing pain and bleeding, according to the lawsuit. Although she was showing signs of potential miscarriage, the lawsuit alleges that Watts "received no meaningful treatment or guidance". She left the hospital after several hours, only to return the following day. Although a doctor told her that her pregnancy was in effect over and that she was at risk of hemorrhaging and sepsis, the lawsuit alleges that Watts once again did not receive adequate treatment for hours and left the hospital."Her womb was a death trap, essentially," Rickert said.In the early morning of 22 September 2023, Watts miscarried into her potty (which is common in miscarriages). According to the lawsuit, she delivered an "already-deceased, under-one-pound fetus", which she did not see. Watts attempted to flush and clean out the potty, then went back ... (1)

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Crazy idea, how about letting them do what they want because we supposed to live in a free state

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Of course you apply this logic to guns and drugs too right? I should be able to without anyones knowledge or permission, manufacture and possess automatic AR-15s and coke right?

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!commenters pls dm me if you need ar-15 coke AND abortion package deal :marseythumbsup2:

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:#marseyglow2:

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This comment directly addresses a user. Rewrite it as smug speculation about the user, referencing them in the third person. Keep it punchy and try not to sound like a Redditor

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Here's a rewrite as smug third-person speculation

:#marseysnappytalking:

One wonders if /u/Low_Shape8280 applies their principled stance on unrestricted freedom with equal enthusiasm to automatic weapons and narcotics.

Surely they're campaigning tirelessly for the unregulated right to craft AR-15s in the basement and stockpile cocaine in the medicine cabinet โ€” all without those pesky permissions, of course.

Unfortunately "smug" and "ironic" seem to override all cautions against reddit phrasing

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Unfortunately "smug" and "ironic" seem override all cautions against reddit phrasing

:#marseyclueless: i wonder why

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Seems obvious to me :marseysipping:

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Abortion Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a really cool store. :marseygasden:

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Yeah I should be able too live in a free state and kill whoever I want when I want.

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How am I gonna shoot me a bunch of women's rights if i can't smoke tobacco and kill whoever i want when i want?

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What if your targets are indoors though? It's against the law to smoke inside.

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I am legally required to be able too shoot someone when they are indoors

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In Somalia they let you do it neighbor

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Thats a lot of work, just throwin some cash around is a lot easier.

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That sounds good to me

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there was a time. when both were true. blame latinx folx

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Yes, and I plan to be wearing a pastel blue linen suit and Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned halfway down while doing so

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Of course you apply this logic to guns and drugs too right?

Absolutely. We should have a purchasable license for women along with a test that allows them to get an abortion if they have the license and registration for it.

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