CK: You mean you think you literally had the same experience as Doc Holliday?
Kilmer: Oh, sure. It's not like I believed that I actually shot somebody, but I absolutely know what it feels like to pull the trigger and take someone's life.
CK: So you're saying you understand how it feels to shoot someone as much as a person who has actually committed a murder?
Kilmer: I understand it more. It's an actor's job. A guy who's lived through the horror of Vietnam has not spent his life preparing his mind for it. Most of these guys were borderline criminal or poor, and that's why they got sent to Vietnam. It was all the poor, wretched kids who got beat up by their dads, guys that didn't get on the football team, guys who couldn't finagle a scholarship. They didn't have the emotional equipment to handle that experience. But this is what an actor trains to do. So—standing onstage—I can more effectively represent that kid in Vietnam than a guy who was there.
CK: I don't question that you can more effectively represent that experience, but that's not the same thing. If you were talking to someone who's in prison for murder, and the guy said, "Man, it really fricks you up to kill another person," do you think you could reasonably say, "I completely know what you're talking about"?
Kilmer: Oh yeah. I'd know what he's talking about.
CK: You were in Top Gun. Does this mean you completely understand how it feels to be a fighter pilot?
Kilmer: I understand it more. I don't have a fighter pilot's pride. Pilots actually go way past actors' pride, which is pretty high. Way past rock 'n' roll pride, which is even higher. They're in their own class.
CK: Let's say someone made a movie about you—Val Kilmer—and they cast Jude Law2 in the lead role. By your logic, wouldn't this mean that Jude Law—if he did a successful job—would therefore understand what it means to be Val Kilmer more than you do?
Kilmer: No, because I'm an actor. Those other people that are in those other circumstances don't have the self-knowledge.
CK: Well, what if it was a movie about your young life? What if it was a movie about your teen years?
Kilmer: In that case, I guess I'd have to say yes. No matter what the circumstances are, it's all relative. I think Gandhi had a sense of mission about himself that was spiritual. He found himself in political circumstances, but he became a great man. Most of that story in the film Gandhi is about the politics; it's about the man leading his nation to freedom. But I know that Sir Ben Kingsley understood the story of Gandhi to be that personal journey of love. It would be impossible to portray Gandhi as he did—which was perfectly—without having the same experience he put into his body. You can't act that.
CK: Okay, so let's assume you had been given the lead role in The Passion of the Christ. Would you understand the feeling of being crucified as much as someone who had been literally crucified as the Messiah?
Kilmer: Well, I just played Moses [in a theatrical version of The Ten Commandments]. Of course.
CK: So you understand the experience of being Moses? You understand how it feels to be Moses? Maybe I'm just taking your words too literally.
Kilmer: No, I don't think so. That's what acting is.
We begin discussing what constitutes the definition of religion; Kilmer thinks an institution cannot be classified as a religion unless God is involved. When I argue that this is not necessarily the case, Val walks into the house and brings out the Oxford English Dictionary; I'm not sure how many working actors own their own copy of the OED, but this one does. The print in the OED is minuscule, so he begins scouring the pages like Sherlock Holmes. He pores over the tiny words with a magnifying glass that has an African boar's tusk as a handle. He finds the definition of religion, but the OED's answer is unsatisfactory. He decides to check what Webster's Second Unabridged Dictionary has to say, since he insists that Webster's Second was the last dictionary created without an agenda. We spend the next fifteen minutes looking up various words, including monastic.
He was famously batshit and hard to work with, but all the greats are like this. I'd rather batshit buttholes with great movies than diversity hires with no personality in boring flicks.
Plus, he was hot so all is forgiven. I was jealous of Elizabeth Shoe (Shu?) getting to make out with him.
lmao even funnier is that her face started to get really bad from the super white makeup she wore. It had lead IIRC in it, but she wore it always up until the end.
i hate actors, this is what they all think...life experience doesnt actually matter, because they can train themselves to feel as if they have had those life experiences....then pretend to live those experiences on a set for a few minutes...afterwards they are jerk each other off while telling each other how great they are for suffering through that terrible life experience...
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They're both great but strangely I was never that interested in Kurt Russell's character or his girlfriend (god's greatest strag hag) so my mind wandered whenever they were on screen.
Meanwhile Heat was captivating pretty much the whole way through. Emo Phillips haircut and Padme notwithstanding.
In an interview in Playboy magazine in January 1979, Brando said: "You've seen every single race besmirched, but you never saw an image of the jewish chad because the Jews were ever so watchful for that—and rightly so. They never allowed it to be shown on screen. The Jews have done so much for the world that, I suppose, you get extra disappointed because they didn't pay attention to that."
Brando made a similar comment on Larry King Live in April 1996, saying:
"Hollywood is run by Jews; it is owned by Jews, and they should have a greater sensitivity about the issue of—of people who are suffering. Because they've exploited—we have seen the—we have seen the BIPOC and greaseball, we've seen the chink, we've seen the slit-eyed dangerous Jap, we have seen the wily Filipino, we've seen everything, but we never saw the jewish chad. Because they knew perfectly well, that that is where you draw the wagons around."
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When I saw top gun Maverick I actually thought he died during filming or smth based on the way his scenes felt like a tribute to him I didn't bother to check if he was actually dead
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When my girlfriend finally asked what my more extreme opinions were a while back because she knew I harboured them, I finally went on a calm but well articulated rant about Jews and diversity for maybe an hour and a half, she just listened. Showed her a 25 minute documentary explaining in detail all the good Hitler did for Germany and why he was loved. Overall I spoke for about two hours on my belief in segregation, black crime stats, race and IQ differences, the ruling Jews who push everything, child abandonment by race, spousal abusive rates by race, my hate and disgust with LGBTQ culture and more not knowing if she would hate me and leave.
Fast forward, she is insanely intoxicated with me, hints and outright says frequently she wants lots of kids with me, wants to embrace traditional roles, church, all of that. So I assume being a strong man firm in your beliefs and being able to explain those beliefs well and guide others makes women's eggs ache
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He was famously batshit and hard to work with, but all the greats are like this. I'd rather batshit buttholes with great movies than diversity hires with no personality in boring flicks.
Plus, he was hot so all is forgiven. I was jealous of Elizabeth Shoe (Shu?) getting to make out with him.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.

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lmao even funnier is that her face started to get really bad from the super white makeup she wore. It had lead IIRC in it, but she wore it always up until the end.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.

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Hey if they had brains they wouldn't be actors
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i hate actors, this is what they all think...life experience doesnt actually matter, because they can train themselves to feel as if they have had those life experiences....then pretend to live those experiences on a set for a few minutes...afterwards they are jerk each other off while telling each other how great they are for suffering through that terrible life experience...
RIP Val, but also whatever...
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Actors are professional liars. Their souls are corrupted and they cannot go to heaven. God bless.
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is underrated IMO
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so is Burn After Reading https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0887883/
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!commenters Who the heck thinks heat is better than tombstone?
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Very Johnny Ringo type comment
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Wyatt Derp was a strag and the real story of le epic corral shootout was
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Westerns are gay
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Robbery movies are gayer
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Not Heat.
But if you're choosing only one then you're not able to say how many were good.
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Truth
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Exactly
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Ok bardfinn
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They're both great but strangely I was never that interested in Kurt Russell's character or his girlfriend (god's greatest strag hag) so my mind wandered whenever they were on screen.
Meanwhile Heat was captivating pretty much the whole way through. Emo Phillips haircut and Padme notwithstanding.
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He was reportedly a bigger butthole on the "Island of Dr. Moreau" set than even Marlon Brando at his worst..... Pour one out for a real one.....
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Just say u dont like artists
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Only women, twinks, and heckin cute MtFs should be allowed to be divas.
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That's fine because the masculine form of diva is divo.
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Brando is the OG Dramatard
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Insanely goated. If Brando had lived longer he would have loved 4chan
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Listen it was a different time.
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this is one of the first movies i tried to cast on
@Aisha's tv
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was the start of Robert Downey Jr.'s renaissance, and I had a great deal of enjoyment with it. Highly recommended.
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The Downeyssance if you will.
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Tombstone not winning is wild to me. I thought this was universally considered his greatest performance.
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Yeah, I'd say Heat is a better movie, just because it's the best movie ever made, but Tombstone is his best performance.
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There's no criteria given. I voted for my favourite of his films.
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a) heat
b) heat on VHS
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Truthfully it is tied with Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
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This one too
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Good point
@ponyblaze fix this
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Guess im watching heat tonight
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I must have seen it 20 times and I still notice something new every time.
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Voted Tombstone, but you forgot something ...
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where is the saint with 80s hottie elizabeth shue?
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RIP
He was really great in Heat
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is there a more recent version of heat?
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den of thieves and den of thieves 2
Mann just finished the heat 2 screenplay
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There's supposedly a sequel coming out but I haven't heard anything about it.
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Heck or High Water
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Rip to a real one
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Oh darn need to see that
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I'm not crying
you are bro
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He was the hero of the film, always right and always a good guy.
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Huh. Pope Francis outlived him.
I didn't see that coming.
Frick Batman and Top Gun tho, he'll always be Gay Perry to me.
He was also good in Heat.
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Poor guy.
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no
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Val Kilmer also played Aragorn in LOTR !kino
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I stole the baby from a stupid Dykeenie!
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!familyman
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Honestly pretty cool they put him in maverick
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I really liked that Cruise insisted, and said it wouldn't get made unless it had Kilmer as Iceman in it.
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just a double frick you to kelly mcgillis and meg ryan lmao
!thotpatrol !thotpatrollers tom cruise is our short king
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I don't think Kelly McGillis acts anymore. Also Meg Ryan's character needed to be dead for the plot.
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Darn. I watched Top Secret! just a couple of days ago. He could really dance, and his straight delivery was perfect for the role.
RIP
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!superheroes....
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I thought he was already dead.
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Idiot.
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no seriously, I swear he died several years ago
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Ray Liotta
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Go back to the morons at /r/mandelaeffect
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I thought it insensitive that they had the cancer kill Iceman while Val Kilmer was still alive
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When I saw top gun Maverick I actually thought he died during filming or smth based on the way his scenes felt like a tribute to him
I didn't bother to check if he was actually dead
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I don't mean to impose but I am the ocean
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Am I the only one who thought Val Kilmer was the token Latinx on That 70s Show?
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That was Wilder Valdarama.
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Vaxxed?
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When my girlfriend finally asked what my more extreme opinions were a while back because she knew I harboured them, I finally went on a calm but well articulated rant about Jews and diversity for maybe an hour and a half, she just listened. Showed her a 25 minute documentary explaining in detail all the good Hitler did for Germany and why he was loved. Overall I spoke for about two hours on my belief in segregation, black crime stats, race and IQ differences, the ruling Jews who push everything, child abandonment by race, spousal abusive rates by race, my hate and disgust with LGBTQ culture and more not knowing if she would hate me and leave.
Fast forward, she is insanely intoxicated with me, hints and outright says frequently she wants lots of kids with me, wants to embrace traditional roles, church, all of that. So I assume being a strong man firm in your beliefs and being able to explain those beliefs well and guide others makes women's eggs ache
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