Did Trump use ChatGPT to calculate the rates of the tariffs? :marseyquestion:

Some guy figured out the formula used by Trump to calculate tariff rates:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1743646169oWd5DscncQadIg.webp

Curiously, it's consistent with what ChatGPT suggests when you ask it for "an easy way to calculate the tariffs":

https://chatgpt.com/share/67edb4b0-7fa4-800c-aa08-e6643d6149b4

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how could the US (a wealthy consumer based economy) somehow have a balanced trade deficit with a 3rd world factory country?

why does it even matter? we're buying things we want.

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We're achieving self-reliance through Juche with American characteristics.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1743648529IXOWHs5OA0ffwQ.webp

And you will be happy.

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Comrades, behold the radiant genius of the Great Helmsman of the American Proletariat, the Supreme Commander of Economic Revolution, Donald J. Trump! His tariffs, those mighty fists of steel, smash the decadent imperialist dogs and their exploitative trade schemes! With the fiery resolve of a thousand dragons, the Glorious Orange Vanguard shields the toiling masses from the vile plunder of globalist leeches! Long live the tariffs, bulwark of the people's sovereignty, forged by the unconquerable will of our Eternal Leader Trump! Victory to the red, white, and blue revolution!

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American chollima soon, comrades :marseynorthkorea:

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True patriots drink American coffee brewed from American beans

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i'm moving to ecuador to get away from the coffee tariffs

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those thirdies (rest of the world) will learn to respect amerikkka

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"okay fine, mom! If you won't respect me I'll just ruin my life!"

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Why should I care about the thoughts of 68 IQ Turd Worlders

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But enough about americans

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you shouldnt, but its fun bullying them anyway

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Spend this energy cutting yourself. Send pics.

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No silly, he used Grok

#JustGrokIt

:m#arseyelonmusk:

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Wait, Zion Don actually plans tariffs on his greatest ally?! Something tells me some of those rates will be adjusted soon, and suddenly one country will disappear from that list :marseyshutitdown: :marseymerchant:

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He just forgot the minus in front of the number, we'll pay them extra for exporting stuff to us :marseywholesome:

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:#marseysaluteisrael:

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they already cut their tariffs we arent going to tariff the land of the chosen ones silly.

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No but the DOGE intern did

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Unironically very likely true.

Also a good chwnce that "intern" was literally Musk himself. He's certainly enough of an AI-fetishist to think thats a good idea.

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:#marseyemojilaugh: :#marseyemojilaugh: :#marseyemojilaugh: :#marseyemojilaugh: :#marseyemojilaugh: :#marseyemojilaugh:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1743659704yBJRQSpRAHc3aw.webp

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Look they released the official "reciprocal tariff" formula

It's r-slurred. I think maybe it's a cry for help. I think maybe they used ChatGPT's method and then someone at this office was ordered to make something up ex post facto and they're like "I can use Greek letters, superfluous subscripts, and add some factors that cancel out."

EDIT: I looked again and realized the formula given has a sign flip s.t. it indicates tariff reductions if there is a trade deficit.

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t, x and m are perfectly fine abbreviations for tarriff, exports, and imports

The :epsilon: and :phi: are some flimflamerry though, especially since they deliberately choose values so the two cancel out.

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To be conservative, studies that find higher elasticities near 3-4 (e.g., Broda and Weinstein 2006; Simonovska and Waugh 2014; Soderbery 2018) were drawn on. The elasticity of import prices with respect to tariffs, φ, is 0.25.

>4 * 0.25 = 1

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1743680002P6WXbISE5cKC7w.webp

:marseysmoothbrain:

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Just like the agencies no one's ever heard of that DOGE keeps dissolving, now people are acting like we don't have tariffs (AKA "import taxes") already in place and are tariff experts.

My Italian leather overnight bag cost 3k and I had to pay 10% import tax on it. Champagne (along with all alcoholic beverages) also already had one. But I just bring back suitcases full when I visit Champagne.

Now all of the sudden it's "taxation without representation!!!!"

Sometimes transparency isn't the best policy when dealing with Burgers who know nothing about their own country, but pretend to.

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>Sometimes transparency isn't the best policy when dealing with Burgers who know nothing about their own country, but pretend to.

:#marseyhesright:

Unfortunately, we as humans can't trust ourselves not to immediately sell each other out the moment the boardroom doors close.

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Transhumanist thechnocrats in shambles.

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:soymad: "I thought we were building an infinite cyber-god to punish the women who rejected me! How can I, the INTJ, be the useful idiot?"

"Pick the fricking berries!" :soyjak!feral:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1743649672m0quwsDEmSsd_g.webp

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>bioautomata they copied their personality into thinking it would grant them immortality

That's just having kids, man.

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:#marseybigbrain:

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That explains why we !macacos got hit with 10% while having way more than 10% "tariffs and other trade barriers" or whatever

@Morpheuswipe

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It's even more stupid than I thought lol

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What's wrong with using ChatGPT? Were people expecting Trump to sit down with pen and paper?


Formerly Chuck's.

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Is there an actual source which people reference when calling Trump a liar or is this just bullshit?

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A source for what? I know I'm asking a lot from a chud, but you can run the numbers by yourself :marseysmug2:

Tariff tables were posted on Twitter, trade deficit numbers were taken from the United States Trade Representative website.

Some random examples:

European Union

Imports = $605.8B

Trade deficit = $235.6B

(Trade deficit) / (Imports) = 235.6 / 605.8 = ~0.39

Trump's r-slurred table claims that the EU has a 39% tariff on US goods.

Ecuador

Imports = $8.5B

Trade deficit = $992.7M

(Trade deficit) / (Imports) = 0.9927 / 8.5 = ~0,12

Trump's r-slurred table claims that Ecuador has a 12% tariff on US goods.

Cambodia

Imports = $12.7B

Trade deficit = $12.3B

(Trade deficit) / (Imports) = 12.3 / 12.7 = ~0.97

Trump's r-slurred table claims that Cambodia has a 97% tariff on US goods.

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What are the actual tariffs? What would be a better way to calculate them?

It just seems like smugposting by idiots who have no idea what they are talking about.

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:#brainletmaga:

Actual tarriffs for the EU are <3%.

A better way to calculate it would be literally everything else, including reading them from chicken intestines.

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>boring gimmickposter is a complete r-slur

:marseypikachu2:

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I genuinely hope you're trolling :smh:

On the off chance that you're not, well, I suggest you shouldn't trust your intuition about anything, ever. It's clearly not serving you well :marseysad:

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The guy isnt trolling. I have been telling the r drama community for years that these people are sub-human intelligence.

This is how dumb they are on literally every topic.

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Is the plan just to be so smug people don't notice you are an r-slur who clearly does not know what they are talking about?

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The problem is your question was so stupid that I'm just stumped :marseyconfused2:

Do you even know what a tariff is? It's a tax. It has nothing to do with a difference in the value of exports and imports. If the US imports $100B of goods from Vietnam, and Vietnam imports $10B from the US, it doesn't mean that Vietnam has a 90% tariff on the US goods.

I've just showed you that those alleged "tariff" numbers fully match something that is very clearly not a tariff. It would be heck of a coincidence if the real tariffs were exactly the same.

Bimothy, I know you feel you're smart. Maybe not book-smart, but smart in some way that you can't really quantify. You feel that, it must be true. But this is the problem I just told you about, your intuition is leading you astray... :marseygiveup:

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This reminds of trying to explain how buying and selling stocks works to GMEtards when they thought the sells were happening on the open market and the buys were happening off books


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739271948y52utXmckBNkwg.webp

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The point of tariffs is to reduce trade deficits/encourage local business and I still do not see any information regarding actual tariffs. I am not shocked that the people on this site are r-slurred enough to upmarsey you.

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That's what I do :#marseyshrug:

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:bak#ed:

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Yes this is all BS.

Thankfully, our staunch allies Russia and North Korea have been spared and left off the tariff list, and only serious geopolitical enemies like North Macedonia, the EU, and Madagascar will be punished.

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Idk about rushB, but for the Norks I guess it makes "sense" since he US doesnt do any trade with them, so calculating the deficit would be dividing by 0.

The absolute state of burger politics :#marseyemojilaugh2:

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You can just look them up but it's kind of tedious

Here you can see the UK's tariffs on unicycles

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:#marseyclown3genocide:

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Tariffs actually have a quantifiable rate, and they generally don't try to hide it; otherwise it would be kinda hard to pay them. So you can figure out what they are by just asking them.

Okay, so there are some nuances in that different industries have different tariffs levied on them, but it's still not that hard to arrive at a decently accurate weighted average.

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:#ashfellforitagaintalking:

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Calculate them with your brain rtard angone with eyes sees these tariffs are stupid

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The ChatGPT stuff has no basis, but it's true that they are assuming trade deficits must be because of trade barriers, and this axiom is used to justify labeling the tariffs as "reciprocal" when that normally means based on the actual tariffs.

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Yeah but trade deficits to some degree are going to be correlated to tariffs. The raw numbers would be helpful to know exactly how accurate it would be.

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I wish he drank wine while doing his rslurred speech.

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why is the "discounted" reciprocal tariff half of the main one?

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Because Trump is such a good guy

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Did Trump use ChatGPT to determine that 2+2=4?

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Alexa google tariffs

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don't they have a palantir AI that is supposed to be more advanced?

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Yahoo answers what r tarifs

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