https://nypost.com/2022/02/18/albanys-no-eviction-ever-bill-will-devastate-landlords-and-nys-housing-stock
https://old.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/svxact/albanys_no_eviction_ever_bill_will_devastate/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/svx9tk/albanys_no_eviction_ever_bill_will_devastate/
https://archived.moe/pol/thread/362158390 (https://archive.ph/bGPHb)
Landphobic legislation is so harmful to innocent PoL.
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Another rightoid confusing empty land for people.
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"Rightoid" lol. I voted for my neighbor (((Bernie))).
Socialism is when affluent cityfolk buy all the land upstate for their vacation homes and make it impossible for working class people to afford to live there.
But welcome back pizzashill
we missed you
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Idk what you are just stop calling empty land "red."
Fricking annoying drivel you see low IQ rightoids engage in to cling to their long running delusion that they're somehow a majority despite being out numbered by millions.
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People live there. It's not empty. Minorities deserve representation too.
There are significant cultural differences between the people who live in the city versus upstate.
I strongly prefer living in Burlington to living across the lake in Plattsburgh. Would much rather live in NYC than Syracuse.
Doesn't give me the right to tell those rightoids, ruralcels, whatever, how to live their lives. Borders are arbitrary.
Part of why upstate NY is so much more conservative than VT is reactionary response to feeling of abandonment by Albany. People there associate the dems with Bloomberg types, not people like Bernie, and for good reason.
NYC shouldn't be deciding what's best for upstate and vice versa.
And NYC has much larger tax base, much higher average income. They'd benefit from division too. Can spend more on the subway or whatever, upstate can buy more guns; everyone wins.
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I'm not even reading past the first line. No, people do not live there. Like 70% of that land is legit empty.
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What do you think the actual solution is to population density gravitating towards people who literally do not understand the legislation required for rural areas?
Like yeah votes should be equal but trying to regulate entire rural industries and having 90% of the voting base as urban sounds like a recipe for disaster when they're too distanced from it to understand the reprecussions of their votes
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My god where in the frick do you people get this shit at? The entire government is rigged in favor of rurals, bills favoring rurals are more likely to pass state governments than ones favoring cities.
Rurals live on welfare money given to them by cities.
And even with all of this they are still failing because they elect low iq social conservatives offering them nothing more than racial politics and resentment.
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Get what stuff? I think its balanced now I'm talking hypothetically like 100 years down the road, urbanization is a very real thing.
Im genuinely just trying to pick your brain as to what your solution to that hypothetical would be as youve probably been exposed to a lot more information or theories about it than I have. This wasn't meant to be any sort of attack or gotcha or even expressing any point of view on my part, sorry if it came off that way
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Pizzashill is just grumpy don't take it personally.
But I'll write a longpost since he didn't respond.
Average person has no conception of what politicians actually do, how legislative process works, and nature of political system attracts the same sort of narcissists who work in media or showbusiness. The kind of personality required to give long speeches, shmooze with voters, present a public image that gets you elected is going to be very different than the analytical mindset you'd find in a policy wonk.
Have noticed a lot less divisiveness here in VT, and I think part of comes down to low population size, predominately rural state. Ratio of people to politicians is much lower than other states. Being so rural you'd expect it to be much more conservative - but we have a unique culture and exceptional trust in our state institutions that I haven't seen anywhere else. There's this libertarian attitude that people should be able to do what they want as long as they don't harm other people, but also belief that government should provide a decent social safety net. People hold themselves responsible for things, but help others when needed.
Many people know their state rep/senator personally, can call them up or text them or whatever and they usually respond. I emailed the Lieutenant Governor a couple months ago about something and she wrote a detailed reply herself - wasn't even her secretary.
Also, when you have a large state with diverse population, there is inevitably more conflict. It's not just urban versus rural it's Black middle class versus Latinx working class vs. Protestant white working class vs rich (((π))), etc. Every group has different interests, the less homogenous the state, and the more people your politicians represent, the harder it is to accommodate all those interests and find something you can all agree on. And that's assuming politicians are representing the interests of their constituents at all. In most cases they're just focused on getting re-elected, and they do that by projecting this image that they're accomplishing something, without necessarily actually doing anything.
tl;dr large democracies are inherently difficult to govern. There are no easy answers.
Reject neoliberalism; take the StupidPolPill.
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I have no idea how to deal with it but the solutions range from cutting rurals off to bribing them with economic concessions.
I'm of the opinion economics matters way less today than ever before and America is in a state of sacred values clash.
Rurals will probably lose but the damage they cause will be crazy.
It's not so much urban america being incapable of writing policy to help rurals but rurals growing increasingly detached from reality.
Clinton offered the rurals a lot of shit and somehow got framed as anti rural.
Rurals decided to go for a guy that hurt them economically and made a bunch of unhinged empty promises.
Pretty much every small farmer lost under Trump and they still loved him.
Sadly the emotional appeal is much stronger to rurals than real solutions.
There's no way to fix the problem because rurals seem more interested in cultural resentment and delusions of a never returning past.
Rurals used to culturally dominate America and no longer do, they're mad about it and no amount of urban pandering to rurals will fix it.
This is what I think leftists and to a lesser extent liberals fail to comprehend.
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Agreed. Frick ruralcels. We need to divide New York and stop letting upstaters determine public policy for people in NYC.
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Agree, 6 million people do not exist.
CP.win confirmed?
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This has to he satire lmao
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I'm just mentally defective
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Oy vey, look at this goy doubting the existence of the 6 million
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idk man, 6 million seems a little high. Surely the number is closer to 6,000, or maybe even as low as 600. All I'm saying is that the record keeping isn't as accurate as people think it is.
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Tried to search newspapers.com for old newspaper articles about upstaters to prove you wrong. I searched for articles written after 1941 but I couldn't find any reference to upstaters until the early 1970s?
Winston Churchill visited New York several times, but in the six books he wrote never once mentioned upstaters. Eisenhower's memoirs don't mention them either.
Idk maybe you're on to something....
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Unmargined election maps and their consequences have been a disaster for the politisperg race.
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Punctuation, sweety.
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Back from Alaska already?
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No just able to phone post sometimes
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Anchorage?
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Plenty of rightoids claim to have done the same.
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Joe Rogan actually did and he's a true and honest Nazi. Why? Because Bernie would be far-right in Revolutionary Catalonia, sweaty.
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This but unironically.
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Many such cases. If I was a rightoid I would definitely live in a city where the progressive party have majority seats on the city council, no republicans, and democrats are considered the right wing party.
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Urbancels deserve less of a vote than ruralchads.
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You still in Alaska? Post polar bear.
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If he can post polar bear, that means he's already dead or in a coma in the hospital and someone else is using his account.
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How does land cast votes?
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Do you not know how electoral maps work or
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Seems like the people on that land must be pretty important to have that much influence.
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No.
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Hmm I wonder where we get all our food
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Not from rural rightoids.
Also they are not even worth it anymore, the amount of damage they do to society is far greater than anything else they provide.
Find another way and cut rurals off.
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Maybe we should divide New York then?
Why should 6 million upstaters have any say in the policy decisions that impact the 14 million in NYC area?
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How is it possible this many drama users are this dumb
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People always say this like itβs some sort of huge gotcha but if urbancels stopped funding US farmers and bought food abroad, there would be a 6 month price spike before rural farmers go out of business and some corpo buys the whole thing.
It would probably be cheaper in the long run too
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I'm pretty sue that's impossible, logistically and otherwise. Not enough ships, not enough surplus production in the rest of the world. You could stockpile I guess. But that'd take time and everyone will notice.
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But we won the cactus vote.
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