So first the drama I suppose. This is incredibly long and likely not at all interesting, but I’m seething rn so I’m typing it up for future reference. Codecels here to win 100,000 marseybux can scroll to the end.
CHAPTER I: THE MEET-CVTE
You know /r/detrans, right? The subreddit for people who regret chopping their peepee/tits off for a meme? That place. Obviously the Reddit admins don’t like them and want them to die, but they’re too small and ineffectual to ban. Because they’re extremely incompetent and utterly terrified of offending anyone at all under any circumstances, even though they recognize the TRA nonsense as being extremely predatory and dangerous.
So anyway, several months ago @Aevann noticed that the jannie team was talking about how they need an offsite to move to so they can ostensibly be more aggressive in their words and “campaigning” without worrying about Reddit yalling them for wrongthink. Great! We can provide that! And he loves to see his code in the wild, so sure, perfect opportunity to do that while also helping people in need.
He started talking with the mods. Offered to set them up with whatever they wanted, fully customized, new features, what-have-you, even pay their hosting for a few months so they’re not saddled with a gamble on something that may not work as far as they know, or they may not like.
CHAPTER II: STVMBLING BLOCKS
But what happens after those three months of free hosting?
The million dollar question, and a fair one. These are profoundly mentally ill women, after all. The million dollar question has a five dollar answer, though: literally five dollars. $5.00 per month.
One would think that would be a done deal. Free site, free tech support, free future development, free hosting for a few months, $5/month afterwards.
But no, apparently $5 per month is too expensive. Like, literally. The collective mod team cannot afford it. This is in no way hyperbolic. The entire mod team is unemployed. The entire mod team is literally incapable of pooling $5/month with three months’ advance notice. They asked if there was any other way that would be cheaper.
Of course there isn’t, so it was suggested that they take donations via Gumroad like the much larger rDrama does. Surely someone in the userbase has five dollars, or five users will have one dollar, that they could give the mods to pay for hosting. This was not something that the entire mod team found to be likely.
CHAPTER III: THE LONG, VNCERTAIN SILENCE
They said they would try to come up with a way to ensure that they would have five dollars per month to pay for hosting, or they would find someone cheaper (something that costs less than free with less than 0 development time) if not.
Months pass. They had still been looking for something cheaper than free with 0 dev time and that would be less than $5/month for a standalone site with whatever features they wanted.
Obviously this did not come to pass, because we had been pitching this to them and practically begging them to take it, because we feel bad for them and want to help a bunch of damaged and abused women as a matter of basic human decency.
And then yesterday happened.
CHAPTER IV: GVVD MVRNVNG
Tired of waiting on this shit, I joined their Groomercord server to communicate more efficiently than Reddit with its constant bans of Aevann and I allows.
Their Groomercord server, by the way, forbids misgendering even fictional characters. They have an 18+ channel which you can only get into if you send the mods a timestamped picture of you with your face, holding your government-issued photo ID. In this 18+ channel, you aren’t allowed to post anything NSFW. You aren’t allowed to discuss sexual matters. You aren’t allowed to e-flirt with other verified-18+ members. It is just another channel, inexplicably marked 18+, which you have to fully dox yourself to the (admittedly unemployed) mods to in order to enter.
This isn’t relevant to the story, I’m simply trying to illustrate just how catastrophically unwell these people running a 30k-member subreddit comprised mostly of children are and I found that to be particularly hilarious.
Anyway, we got ahold of the mods. I extremely politely explained that we have been trying to give them everything they want, for free, for months now and we would really like to get their site set up, so can I please talk to the mods in charge? And then they talked to Aevann and I. Their biggest upfront concern was that we keep getting banned by Reddit admins. The people looking for an offsite because their subreddit is in danger of being banned thought that we are a danger because the Reddit admins keep banning us.
Once I (again, very politely) explained how ridiculous that is, they set up another channel in which we could discuss their move. The $5/month after three months was again a dealbreaker, but they got past that and had a great big conversation overnight and were going off in a million directions about how maybe it would be okay to accept the free site, just don’t mention it on Reddit? And it went on for hours as they tried to figure out whether free was too expensive, and if they can find anyone to do it cheaper. Cheaper than free.
At this point Aevann gave up and I lost my patience and gave them one last chance to accept a free website that they have been asking for.
Some Ovarit terf found the channel and ended up agreeing with everything I said. The users who found the channel also agreed.
The head mod finally responded, and she did not like this at all.
CHAPTER V: RESOLVTION
THE END.
CLASSIFIED CODE PROJECT DETAILS
cc: @float-trip @TwoLargeSnakesMating both of you were strongly recommended by Aevann but there’s no obligation so don’t worry
Anyway
100,000 marseybux to anyone who can complete a project that @geese_suck says is too frustrating and that @McCoxmaul gave up on in a rage. This is the first phase of something that will be universally adored by the userbase, but it’s a headache to do. Send me a dm for details, any interested and talented coooooders. This is extremely classified because we like to surprise people, so if you’re untrustworthy or don’t think you can keep a secret, do not bother applying.
Thank you xx
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UPDATE
After I left and Aevann was still there, they said this and then banned him even though he hadn’t said anything
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Imagine thinking that rdrama isn't a support network for people in need.
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charity is the love of god shown by man, demonstrating the worth of each person because god loves them. if you hate god and still want t0 be good too people, you can't say charity you haveto invent you're own new phrase LOL trans lives matter
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oh shit hey lamenia i didnt know you had an account here
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Your phrasing is already a tough sell. Describing us as charitable?
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You have to wonder why they transitioned to begin with
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woman moment
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this whole debacle is proof that they were foids all along
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The (justified) seethe from you was fricking hilarious lmao. Fricking $5 was too expensive? The number of times you and aevann tried to be nice for no benefit just to have r-slurs refuse and vehemently fight against it. That was a good lesson on futility.
Poorest Dramachad:
Richest old detransbian:
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You gotta wonder if it was them just being passive aggressive in not wanting to say they didn't want to associate with dramatards. Very foid thing to do instead of just saying frick off from the get-go. Initially from the story I thought Carp was being a full r-slur and pretending he didn't understand why they wouldn't want to be associated with radically centrist racists like himself, but he definitely described exhausting foid games.
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They do sound a little fragile, it really wouldn't take much browsing of this site to freak them out, trans lives matter banners or no.
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Yeah I was trying to find the quote meme of "Always Sunny" "The Gang Tries Desperately to Win an Award" where Dennis concludes "maybe it's just us?" (i.e., they are horrible, alienating, amoral characters, and the Emmy's can never recognize them, pretty much the truth.) "Seinfeld" made the academy seethe, cuz they prided themselves on their very special episodes being a public service and moral uplift to society.
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This was obvious from reading the post by the detrans mod.
They hate themselves so much they mutilated their bodies
but it's not like they would stoop to dramatic behavior
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They were right.
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You are an idiot and have no idea what you’re talking about. We spent months, first with aevann just talking to them, then me gently nudging them. Then I rejoined the cord a few days ago and sent a few single-sentence messages to the mods. This explosion happened after they essayed amongst themselves about free being too expensive for 12+ hours.
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𝘈𝘳𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘨𝘰𝘯𝘯𝘢 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘥𝘶𝘯𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘚𝘢𝘭 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦? 𝘏𝘦'𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘰𝘱 10 𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘦, 𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦.
Trans lives matter
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No, I disagree. If somebody is afraid to associate with you publicly, then they don't deserve your help. They have literally nothing to offer us except more respectability through their presence here. If that's not a currency that they're willing to trade in, then they have nothing to offer us period. We're not a charity, especially not to ungrateful people who don't want to be seen standing next to us. They think we're good enough to help them in secret, but not good enough for them to associate with us openly? Not even good enough for them to pay us?!? Frick that noise.
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That seems to sum it up.
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They spend all of their money on reverse HRT
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You can't fire me, I quit
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Misfits are incredibly eager to tell people they don't belong, and they've got citations
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