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Then the government responsible for their piece of dirt can fricking feed them then.

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I agree. The CIA should stop topping left wing leaders in Central and South America who try to make sure their people have their needs taken care of. The government responsible for their piece of dirt should be allowed to fricking feed their people.


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That did happen...In the 1970s and 1980s. Central america is a shithole because they cant fix their own fricking problems

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Yeah south America and africa are shitholes due to the fact that nearly every country is socalist. It has nothing to do with the location.

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Capitalism is when developed country

Socialism is when shithole country


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Yes...? Can you name a first world socialist country? Scandinavia isn't socalist

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Scandinavia

Finland and Sweden are both third world countries

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Am I being trolled or is this the stupidest map ever produced

It's clearly got post-soviet borders (and even Sudan is split) but it applies Cold War era labels

Was this made by a fricking dot head or som- oh.

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The map is accurate according to the traditional definitions where first world countries were aligned with the US, second world with the Soviets, and third world neutral.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

But now third world is generally used to refer to developing countries


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...oh

This image amuses me

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We are so back my Angolan comrades

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This but unironically

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Yes, because the CIA is known for being transparent. If they were to try that more recently we would of course know about it. Many reforms were put in place since the 80s to prevent that from happening again. They certainly haven't attempted coups in Bolivia, Venezuela, and Cuba within the past 5 years.


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None of those places are in central america. Central america has been pretty stable.

Look fella i hate CIA meddling as much as everyone else. My extended family was literally persecuted in the 60s in monkeyland. But this is leftoid cope with the fact no one wants to live in socialist shitholes

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none of those countries are in Central America

Wrong. The map says that you are wrong. I certainly did not misread your original comment as "Latin America." And my opinions on foreign policy are always 100% accurate

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Lol upsorend

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Bolivia, Venezuela, and Cuba

All countries famous for taking care of their citizens' needs.

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This but unironically


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Suck my peepee, gringo.

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:#marseynut:


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Yeah you take that ethnically ambiguous peepee you honky b-word

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Does marsey know about this?

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How many Venezuelans do you know? I work with three. Wanna know what they think of their government's ability to feed their citizens?

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The opinions of the diaspora aren't generally reflective of the countrymen they leave behind

Of course Maduro has his flaws, but the sanctions we put on his government have done nothing but make the situation worse

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-sanctions-us-excess-death-toll-economy-oil-trump-maduro-juan-guaido-jeffrey-sachs-a8888516.html?amp


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And why exactly do you think the diaspora happened? Are the six million-ish (hur hur) emigrants all landlord gusano chuds? The country's been bleeding citizens for over a decade, and well before any US sanctions took place or started having any real impact. Even more people would've left if it weren't for the fact that their bureaucracy is complete shit and getting passports usually requires both lots of waiting and copious bribes, and the money for such often has to come from family who've emigrated managing to send funds their way.

Of course Maduro has his flaws

Maduro is a complete fricking r-slur who has only accelerated the downward course Chavez sent the country in, only he doesn't even have the charisma Chavez had. He's largely reaping what was already sown, but he doesn't have the competence to even arrest the momentum. The sanctions certainly didn't help, but the country was already fricked by a decade plus of gross mismanagement, corruption, oppression and pants-on-head r-slurred economic policy beforehand.

None of this is controversial or rightoid cope. Just ask any Venezuelan who's escaped, or most who still live there and have regular internet access (and aren't specifically in the pocket of the ruling party). The country is a hellhole and getting worse, the humanitarian crisis is nearly unprecedented, and stupid fricking western leftoids keep carrying water for the corrupt, dissent-squashing, oppressive regime because it's not about principles or human suffering, it's about scoring points for each team and it's easier to blame the all-powerful CIA than to admit that Latin Americans and left-wing politicians are plenty capable of fricking over countries on their own.

Yes I'm seriousposting on rDrama, frick me up longpostbot. I've heard too many harrowing accounts firsthand from Venezuelans who've suffered under Maduro's malice and incompetence to have any patience for this horseshit.

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muh russian CIA interference

You guys will do everything to blame anyone but the people actually responsible

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I'm not a Democrat, and the glowies talking about Russian interference in US elections (aka buying a handful of Facebook ads) are the same ones who orchestrate those coups in Latin America, and did everything they could to shaft both Bernie and Trump in 2016 and again in 2020


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This is the real radical centrism that the rightoids on this site are afraid to hear

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Socialism with Trumpian characteristics


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Yeah :marseymerchant:

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No, you don't understand are entire armed forces conspired to end our Democratic regime for months and in the last moments before pulling off the coup we asked the CIA if it was ok. Basically means it's totally America's fault that are Army can't be trusted. Are own citizen's are too stupid to be responsible at all for the coup that was 99% their own doing.

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Take them back to their piece of dirt and then feed them, if babies gotta starve to death, id rather they be a different countries babies.

Also proud of you for living up to your name schizoid

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The same companies that back the policies driving them north are the ones employing them in the US for sub minimum wage. There is a reason why Bernie called open borders a Koch brothers fantasy, and why many on the left see NAFTA as hurting Central and South Americans as well as American workers. Illegal immigration is generally not beneficial to the immigrants coming here nor to the Americans whose jobs they are taking. Your failure to understand the systemic factors causing this only plays into the hands of the people you oppose


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That image disturbs me almost as much as this one

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(Edit: he ate me coins :marseycry:)


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Illegal immigration is generally not beneficial to the immigrants coming here nor to the Americans whose jobs they are taking.

OK, so stop them from coming here, and stop the American oligarchs who back policies that drive these people north in the first place. Problem solved for everyone.

Or, even wilder idea, just take over these places and civilize them. Put them on a ten year plan where they start with an appointed governor who roots out all the systemic corruption and gradually transitions them to full U.S. statehood. After all, if we're ultimately going to be responsible for feeding these people, then we need the authority to be able to stop their self-destructive behavior. Also, it's a lot harder for an American corporation to exploit a group of people when those people have direct representation in Congress.

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NAFTA

Central and South American

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All Latinx countries look the same to me

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Illegal immigration is generally not beneficial to the immigrants coming here

Then why are they coming?

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Mind control spells?

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As someone mentioned in another comment, the immigrants coming are usually those who were relatively well off in their home countries. Most people cannot afford to immigrate to the US. Not only do open borders hurt the American workers they're displacing, it hurts those in the countries they come from when everyone who can afford to leave - typically the well educated professionals - does so.

>Be Venezuelan

>Go to best University in your country, become a doctor

>US puts sanctions on your country in an attempt to instill a neoliberal glowie plant who will sell your country's oil to American companies

>Country turns to shit

>Spend thousands of dollars getting to Mexico with your family, and then pay another 10k to a smuggler to bring you across the border

>Trek through the desert

>Wife sprains her ankle. Leave her behind to die of thirst because you haven't eaten in days, are not strong enough to carry her

>Arrive in the US

>Your medical training is not recognized in the US. Take a job picking berries for $3 an hour, that American workers used to make $20 an hour doing

>Try to unionize with fellow farm workers, your employer calls ICE and has you deported

Fake story, but something along these lines happens every day. Yet liberals act like illegal immigration is something that should be celebrated.


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US puts sanctions on your country in an attempt to instill a neoliberal glowie plant who will sell your country's oil to American companies

The chavista regime was mostly funded by selling oil to American companies.

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You can type 10,000 characters and you decided that these were the one's that you wanted.

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Most people in those countries dont go to college :marseysigh:

There is immense benefit from going from a poorstrag in a 3rd world country to a poorstrag in a 1st world country. You are orders of magnitude better off. Venezuelans with actual college education probably get free glowie passes to come here anyway.

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Oh please, spare us your moralizing. The corruption in most of those countries is off the charts. 99% of their problems are self-inflicted. America is just a scapegoat that these people use because their leaders don't want to admit that they are responsible for their own countries problems.

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Imagine still blaming coups from 70 years ago for the problems of governments today. Such major cope wowza

Trans lives matter obviously

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The government responsible for their piece of dirt should be allowed to fricking feed their people.

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How did you find that photo of me? I have banned u for doxxxing

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Russian shouldn't have installed those left wing leaders in the first place. Why is their interference alyways fine?

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Well according to Chomsky it's only bad when we do it


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You have a really good point. Sorry for interrupting.

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South America should git gud then. America had to beat the worlds leading superpower. Twice. Before they could even be left alone, had to literally save the world from nazis to now sit on top.

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Those are just communists that will genocide them anyway.

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Left-wing leaders in latin america

People having their needs

Lmao r-slur.

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Based and moralespilled

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openly declare adherence to stupid, failed anti American death cult ideology

surprised when Americans kill you

Lmao

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Homegrown leftist governments in LatAm have proven plenty capable of failing to feed their people lol

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Based and rightoids ruin everything pilled

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The omnipresent CIA is the real reason why socialism keeps failing

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CIA is not allowed to operate in the US.

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Fake @Sal. Marsey ignored and rejected.


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Governments dont feed people

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