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I fricking hate nurses so much. They have a mid tier undergrad degree and think they are entitled to not clean up literal shit
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the jannies of the medical world
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That's a CNA.
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I dont expect the average arrrdrama user to know the difference between CNA, LPN, and RN
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Those all just mean βnot doctorβ
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And Instagram whore/thot
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You're darn right.
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No degree, 2yr "degree", 4yr degree, in decreasing order of sanity.
edit: Apparently you don't need a 4yr degree for an RN. Thought you did because that's the route my cousin took.
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Most of the nurses I know kind of graduated accidentally when they werenβt able to get their Mrs. degrees in time.
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Good, nurses and PAs are the most obnoxious and overpaid foids on the planet.
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Nurses are fun because everyone in the hospital knows theyre former cheerleaders who dole out meds, wipe asses, and gossip, but outside the hospital they can fool folks into listening to their bullshit medical opinions.
But that sub is regarding Nurse Practitioners, which still gossip but are also allowed to prescribe the fun drugs
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70% of nurses are mayo foids, I think that sums it up.
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I'm just now learning that not all Nurses are Nurse Practitioners and suddenly I understand why no one respects nurses
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On the other hand, if a female relative ever fails at life you know which field to recommend.
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Dental hygienist?
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You have to be attractive for that job. I've never seen an ugly or fat dental hygienist
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Isn't Jade Metokur a bit pudgy?
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Only nubile firm boobs may graze my face during my cleaning.
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Everyone working in health care is a fricking idiot.
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Doctors aren't viewed the way they are in America pretty much anywhere else in the world.
Doctors are like on par with teachers etc in other countries. In America, due to our awful healthcare system and the origins of it, they've basically put a lot of prestige on the field where it doesn't belong, and kept salaries high with artificial scarcity.
A lot of the issues with US healthcare could be resolved by knocking doctors down a peg and gutting the insurance industry.
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Just because people have to actually pay for shit here doesnβt make it an awful system. Everyone was smug posting about Cuba until they could no longer hide the fact that they couldnβt even get covid vaccines.
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I'm going to blow your mind, and this is a very important point: the quality of a healthcare system is not judged based on the level of care available for the most well off people.
That's not how reality works. Furthermore, those people fly here to skip lines in their own countries, not primarily because the quality is better here. Other countries have similar/better healthcare outcomes in most areas and pay half of what we do.
The US healthcare system is complete dogshit, it's the worst in the western world.
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Yes it is.
You can either have great healthcare that everyone can have access to if they work hard enough, or shitty healthcare for everyone regardless of how hard you work.
I know which one Iβll take.
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I was about to agree with the guy arguing with you but then I realized he's pizzashill. You bring up a good point and I completely agree with you
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He takes politics way too seriously. Imagine not saying the most absurd take you can give on something and actually trying.
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Most people cannot afford the healthcare you speak of, is what you aren't comprehending. The US healthcare system is objectively inferior compared to every other system in the western world.
This isn't controversial, it isn't up for debate, reality is not subjective.
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Again, antiwork junkies not getting the hundreds of hours of therapy they βneedβ because they canβt afford it doesnβt make it bad.
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Anti-scientific statement. Source:
https://frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2014.00577/full
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it doesn't matter how much money you waste, you'll still die young and fat because your burger food is like 70% HFCS.
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Hopefully, I donβt want to turn into Joe Biden.
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This is gonna blow your smooth brain, but a nation can have both public health care for the poors and the freedom for the money bags to go to a private hospital.
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Which we literally do.
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I thought the US public healthcare only covered specific economic groups?
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This sounds like poor coping.
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That's exactly how it works shithead
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America's biggest healthcare problem is fat people- specifically the patients and the insurance admins, who are always 250lb+ women
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Fat people might be good for an insurance system long run.
Fatty=dies at 45 through some heart attack,
Skinny = dies at 93 after a long and expensive battle with Alzheimerβs after their previous bout with cancer.
Coffin+bypass surgery to get them an extra 2-3 years is cheaper than end of life care
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I agree it's terrible, you're still alive.
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This isnβt true, in what country is MD not literally the highest tier behind astronaut? Itβs the same in Asia, Europe and America so what country actually has this view?
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In the UK, junior doctors make like Β£40k/year and medicine is an undergraduate degree (you go to it right after high school, no bachelors degree first)
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1st point: Junior doctors, I will assume are comparable to residents in the U.S, who also earn a shit wage. Not comparable to an attending.
2: Medical school in Europe is generally like that, my program is 5.5 years straight out of highschool, no bachelor. Unlike Americaβs 4 years + bachelor.
You can easily make 200k usd as a cardiologist in Norway, no teacher has that sort of wage.
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Isn't that about what silicon valley and wall street pay their new fish fresh out of undergrad? It never began for Europoors.
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Yes.
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Where did you get that number? Try 110k lmao.
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Tier 1 tech companies pay 175k in cash with like 210 tc. Pretty sure Google entry is 185+ with tc of close to 250k. Not that entry level matters much because a dedicated techcel good enough to work for a FAANG company is going to be on their 3rd job making 450k by the time a doctor from their graduating class makes it out of med school lmao
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Maybe in the land of the fat, but in Norway 110k is already top 10% of wages.
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This isnβt true, in what country is MD not literally the highest tier behind astronaut? Itβs the same in Asia, Europe and America so what country actually has this view?
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Doctor salaries are much lower in every other country, I'm not even sure how you could debate this. They aren't special.
https://ft.com/content/35a081ae-2653-11e3-8ef6-00144feab7de
This is how it is in most places.
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It is true that the salary generally isnβt as high as in America, neither is the salary for lawyers or engineers (europe).
But the respect and status of the job is still the highest, definitely not comparable to a teacher. Not in salary either.
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They aren't anywhere near as respected lol.
China they aren't even considered "elite." The UK they're not laughed at, but they aren't anywhere near US status.
I was pretty shocked to learn this during my time in the UK. Everyone just viewed doctors as upper middle class, in America they're well above that.
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Speaking as a Europoor that has spent more time that I would have liked in the U.S. the attitude is very much the same here as there in my experience, IE a highly respected job. Might be different in the U.K. specifically. I remember seeing some study a while ago that the trend was fairly similar globally, as in what jobs were considers high status. Doctor/lawyer was universally topping that list across cultures.
PS: I missed having these exchanges with you π
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How tf is laywer "high status"? Literally everyone hates lawyers.
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I don't know I agree a bit with pizzashill, doctors are obviously respected and considered the definition of middle class but yanks seem to have a higher level of doctor worship. Salaries are also higher which fricks up other Anglo sphere countries.
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Darn. Im an r-slur but other governments control the wages of doctors and other healthcare costs. Who's have thought that?
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Creating a problem and then whining about said problem is nothing new. What is new is how hard insurance companies steer people to these lower billable hours while still jacking up rates.
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r/Noctor is hiding their incessant hate for foids behind their criticism for nurses
Based
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They pretty much invented self importance
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half as useful and twice as arrogant
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Good morning, I hate nurses
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moids will never cash in on lucrative "pink-collar" occupations because they're too blinded by their toxic masculinity and prefer to wait for a coal mine or factory or some shit to magically appear. They also tragically lack the aptitude necessary to spend an 12 hour shift gossiping.
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Yeah till you accidentally drop and aids needle on your foot.
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Thanks to this I have now found a completely independent website that is exclusively MDs bitching about midlevels
https://midlevel.wtf/
Absolute gold
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Haha, wow, check out this one
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https://midlevel.wtf/deranged-midlevel-kristin-landham-pa/
Omg this one is great. The pa involved is even in the comments. Great shit.
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Chad doctors dunking on nurses with delusions of grandeur. Love it.
Transform your Marseys!
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Vanity TLDs were a mistake.
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We should start posting there, pretending to be r-slurred doctors
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USE VISUAL DDX FOR FREE CME TODAY
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Lol I thought this was going to link to r/medicine. Thereβs perpetual seeth there for PAs and NPs.
Meanwhile chiropractors and naturopaths be full on larping as physicians practicing full on quackery lmao
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I hate naturopaths. In some states they are actually allowed to refer to themselves as doctors/physicians even though the highest level of medical certification they have is fricking CPR. They mislead people into undergoing "treatment" with them instead of seeking real medical intervention. People die because of this. Absolutely insane they are allowed to operate the way they do.
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