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EFFORTPOST Redditors blame redditors for being redditors "Bike Karen was Right After All. She Has Shown Proof She Paid for That Bike."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16844924240182514.webp

This is my first time hearing about the story so i am just confused

The black kid was waiting for her to pay for the bike so he could snatch it. They both grabbed the bike and wouldn't let go. He then pretended to be the victim. She started crying for help. It's 2023 so everyone saw the video and just assumed the white woman must be a Karen. Turns out she was just standing up for herself.

:#marseynoooticer: !nooticers

Too late, Reddit has her nowā€¦

Its weird reddit hasnt learned its lesson after they "caught" the boston bomber or think a weirdly designed daycare is a meth lab in disguise

whats this about a daycare methlab? !chuds !nonchuds any idea?

This is a big issue surrounding social media out of context videos being posted and everyone just jumping on whatever they are seeing. Thereā€™s a saying for this ā€œbelieve nothing you hear,and only half that you seeā€

The thing is, I watched it and assumed she was probably in the wrong, but not proven to be. But I didn't email her employers, call the news, harass her family, anything like that. But some people did and that really sucks.

You would not believe how many people were calling for her to be fired and what a horrible person she was. Well, you probably would because itā€™s the norm. I hate that every move is recorded and scrutinized and people feel justified for trying to get someone fired. Itā€™s fricking exhausting.

:marseyeyeroll2:

context is for kitties

Lol at everyone asking ā€œwhereā€™s her proofā€ when legit evidence is brought forward. No one asked for his proof that he wasnā€™t stealing prior to this. Double standard folks.

The picture isnā€™t actually proof. You could go to the same bike, momentarily reserve it and get that screenshot. Weā€™ll never know unless we have actual time stamps of the time of reservation and time the original video took place. Edit: Alright relax people, I donā€™t know the full story. Not on anybodyā€™s side. Just pointing out this particular picture on this particular post does not constitute proof. Thatā€™s it.

In the video it shows her willingly lying to get her way so I don't really trust anything she says.

I will not accept this proof!! said the redditor :marseydisagree: this thread is great, lots of "devil's advocates"

Hoooly moley the amount of people in this fricking thread working to downplay the fact that the media dragged this poor woman with 0 proof is shocking. This site really is disgusting. Hilarious to see how little the burden of proof was considered when it comes to dragging this woman for no reason, but now that there's evidence that she actually did pay for it, all of a sudden the burden of proof for the leftists is sky high.

Ooh we have a :marsey57: here

She was put on leave from her job due to the woke lynch mob....she hired a lawyer and plans lawsuits though

Please tell me the group of men are outed and going to be held accountable

:marseytrollolol: NO lol

There are no repercussions for them to face. Their social circles donā€™t care and they donā€™t have careers.

Sure they do.... stealing bikes

:marseyxd:

Now we go into the controversiial

This is why the Karen slur is so harmful. It dehumanizes people, makes them instantly at fault. Why do you think propagandists use slurs in the first place?

Shouldn't be allowed on Reddit. You know darn well you're gonna get banned if you start calling the guys in the video "Tyrone" or something. Anti-white slurs are ok on Reddit I guess.

Oh look a white woman (Karen) :marseysneed:ing about KAREN

That says nothing was paid.

She cancelled payment because she couldn't take the bike. She then rented another one which was nearby and open.

two things can be true:

1. the guys may have pushed her bike back into the dock (just as her lawyer claims), ending the ride on its own

2. the way she and her white knight tried to resolve it was ridiculous. the ride was over and she actually did walk over to the next bike and ride it home, as the group of guys was not interested in her

:marseythinkorino: could this be true?

I dunno what to believe. But I would have walked away rather than go viral. Maybe she will learn to choose peace next time.

now we victim blame :marseythumbsup:

I think what solidified the Karen label was her turning on crying, and then immediately turning it off without tears

Yes that action totally deserves someone to be doxxed, get death threats, and possibly lose her job /s

See the /s ?? the redditor was being sarcastic BTW. :platysarcasm:

And how does this picture prove either of them paid for the bike? Aside from the fact you could easily photoshop those numbers to anything this is just a generic receipt showing SOMEONE paid $0.00 at some time. This receipt could be from after this incident took place even. Literally proves nothing for either of them.

BĆ„rd Finne's relative arrives to argue how easy it is to photoshop this shit

Whatā€™s the time stamp between the video recording and her receipt? Iā€™ve read three different articles that said the bike was paid for and put back, then paid for again but never taken out of the stall. Also said she paid for a different bike and then tried to pay for another bike. Thereā€™s not a lot of timeline, well organized evidence presented on either side. What shouldā€™ve happened is both people shouldā€™ve cancelled their request, walked to a different bike, and then got a different one. It didnā€™t have to get this far. Itā€™s a rentable bike of many others.

Edit to add: Each article published yesterday or today has comments from her lawyer but one mentions a receipt but none show a photo of it. So Iā€™m not sure if that photo is real or not.

Point of clarification to the folks who think Iā€™ve slandered this woman or ā€œvictim blamedā€ her: The facepalm is supposed to be ā€œeveryone who blamed this lady should feel dumb because she has a receiptā€. For the facepalm, from what Iā€™ve read, no reputable news site has shown a copy of the receipt. One mentions it but said they didnā€™t have any info on it. DailyMail is not reputable. If youā€™re going to make the claim folks are wrong present the evidence. For the situation, it shouldā€™ve never got to that point it did. They BOTH claimed it was their bike. They BOTH claimed they paid for it. Then they BOTH can cancel it and walk away to a different bike. It shouldā€™ve never made it to the internet. I never said this woman was a Karen, never said she approached or tried to steal from that guy, and I never said she was at fault. I saw the same clip everyone else saw no beginning, 30 second middle, and no end. They are both old enough to have settled this reasonably. To me this isnā€™t a racial situation, itā€™s not even a Karen situation. Itā€™s two people fighting over a rentable bike when they could just get another bike. My position on this situation will always be itā€™s dumb, it shouldnā€™t have gotten this far, and it shouldā€™ve been handled better without the internet.

:marseylongpost: DIDNT READ

As I figured all along the teens were hoarding that bike and got mad when she, a paying customer actually going to USE the bike, wanted to get home. Crazy how even main stream US media just blindly took the hecklers side.

It fits their narrative. "6 months pregnant nurse get bullied out of using the bike she paid to use by a group of people who just so happen to be black" does not fit their narrative.

TEENS! TEENS?! :marseywrongthonk: might as well call them !BIPOCs !

Whereā€™s the time stamps? Sorry not proof. Weā€™d need time stamps for both reservation time and when the video was takenā€¦ If I take a picture of myself in a crown does that prove Iā€™m a prince?

:soycry: WHERE ARE THE TIMESTAMPS!? there are lots of r-slurs arguing this is a fake photoshop etc, all comments are collapsed

Being a white woman isnā€™t always a crime. :marseywtf2: (yes it is)

No, but apparently people are convinced if youā€™re a white female and being bullied by a black male you should keep quiet otherwise a black man could get hurt by the Po Po. :marseyagreesuperspeed:

This is stupid. Like Marjorie Taylor Greene stupid. Sheā€™s a racist ā€œthings I canā€™t sayā€ and needs to go. :marseyxd:

some /r/politics poster randomly got lost and posted the last comment here

This reminds me of a furry that got exiled from the community for horrific shit trying to post evidence his accounts were hacked from Saudi Arabia while forgetting to remove an icon showing a VPN was active on his phone.

uWu what this?? :marseydiscord:


!illuminati who do we punish?!

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EFFORTPOST [Long] :marseyhappening: Patriots in civil war over a potential DeSantis candidacy! :trumpjaktalking:

You fricked up Ron! You should have endorsed Trump.

Yes, Trump saved his Governor run by endorsing DeSantis. How does DeSantis thank him? He runs against him for President. Trump is pissed and will come out guns a blazing in the debates. He will tie him to the WEF, the Bushes, the Never Trumpers, etc. I hate seeing us eat our own, but in this case I look forward to it.

You know they will ruin any chances for the republicans to win the election and they'll be proud of it! :marseyagree:

he must think the dems and rinos will succeed in barring trump from running but if they do no republican will get my vote

Chuds of rDrama have you come to terms with Biden winning again yet?

2 more weeks! Itā€™s Trump or 2076, pick your poison shit eating sodomites.

If not, you should :marseydarkbrandon:

Trump IS the GOP now.

Actually, you might not win another election until Drumph dies :marseyemojirofl:

Iv been hearing this for months. This is just to see if his numbers rise. Everything u see is manipulated everything,!!!!!. Literally everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:#marseytinfoil2:

I don't think Desantis is who he says he is

Everything in his history prior to late 2020 says that he has been groomed for this by the deepstate apparatus since college but still people simp for him.

Wasn't Trump a democrat who was friends with the Clintons? :marseysmug2:

Did you know Gloria Vanderbilt's son Anderson Cooper was an "intern" at the CIA? Imagine that ..now he "works" for CNN.

Is :marseyglow: publishing a yearly list of interns or what?

Very smart for the democratic side, they need shitface Ron to run will make it easy to keep p-do Joe in the White House. Ron vs Trump The election machine votes for Ron takeā€™s trump out. Then Ron the gop candidate the machine votes for p-do Joe takes Ron out. The talking heads lie and say all trump voted did not vote for Ron in the election thatā€™s why p-do Joe won. Thatā€™s how it goes down.

Time Cube was more readable than this :marseymeds:

According to Predictit, DeSantis has 30 cent odds. Thatā€™s a lot better than ā€œno chance in heck.ā€

Odd to see someone down by 30 points to have odds that high

Why do Trump people love polls only when they seem to suggest Trump is doing good?

:#marseypopcorntime:

He could be polling horribly and heā€™d still have my vote.

And Biden thanks you for it. Team Trump-Biden all the way! 4 more years, right?

Why is every republican candidate supported by the Deep State? :marseywrongthonk:

I for one can't wait for the media to treat DeSantis differently than Trump

The establishment RINOs are for him; I predict the media will shine a somewhat positive light on DeSantis ā€“ or at least one that is better than Trumpā€™s.

RINOs are to blame for Trump fricking up and constantly getting into random scandals :marseyschizotwitch:

Trump Slams DeSantis Over Endorsed Candidates Losing In Kentucky And Florida "Magic Is Gone" (article title)

Yeah, about that. Remember 2022, Don?

The time he sat on his war chest out of spite and we lost the Senate in GA, again?

Seriously going to blame trump (of all people) and not the RNC chair or McConnell for turning off the money spigot?

Well Trumps base didn't turn out in 2022

Or in 2020, or in 2018 much really. The only thing they'll do in 2024 is get Biden reeleected.

The year that he endorsed two hundred and fifty candidates running for office and had an over 80% success rate in those endorsements? I certainly remember that.

/r/conservative is funnier right now since you can find both types of supporters

DeSantis2024

Only to lose to Trump by 20 in his own statešŸ”„šŸ”„

and then Trump loses to Biden in a landslide šŸ”„šŸ”„

They're already getting so catty :marseysmug2:

Love him or hate him, the simple fact that he is running against Trump instead of supporting him tells me all I need to know.

MAGAts realizing there's no loyalty in politics: :marseyrope:

You can't hide who you are forever. He was great at pr but his true colors shown quite quickly.

you obvioulsy didn't live here during the chy nah flu bull shit. he led the country out of it. he's not running, IDK why this shit keeps getting posted here especially with GPO as the "source"

"Why aren't other politicians sucking Daddy's peepee!? :marseyraging:" vs "I will censor China flu even on http://patriots.win and also DeSantis isn't running despite every bit of evidence :marseyschizowall:"

DeSellout. Tried to warn folks. I wonder whos next?

where's this coming from? GP is the source?? LoL ok whatever. he's running in 2028

Oh look a DeSimp who swore he wasn't running and we shouldn't be tearing him apart cause he wasn't gonna challenge Trump is here sucking desantis peepee again.

Read my posts fool. I work TRUMP'S campaign in FLORIDA. No where did I say Ron.

LOL i have had run ins with you before bro, don't try and gaslamp. You are a DeSimp through and through little Bill Mitchell boi.

How dare he challenge Trump! :marseycrusader:

So Trump wasn't being mean to DeSantis when he started attacking DeSantis, he knew

Daddy attacked him first but DeSantis should just take it :marseydomesticabuse:

It's great for Trump to have punching bags. He thrives under conflict. This is a STUPID move for DeSantis, though.

:#marseybattered:

People that vote for DeSantis over Trump because MUH VALUES were going to vote for a lefty in the General anyway. Don't waste your time with the cocktail club and let them go take selfies with their lunches. The number of hard working Americans who will vote MAGA dwindles the affluent rich donors who, at the end of the day, switch sides on a dime.

Is this the rightoid version of champagne socialists? :soyjakhipster:

A Biden win is a win for our corrupt/non-representative eGOP. That would allow them the opportunity to do what they love the mostā€¦fundraise off of situations they put us in by acquiescing to every Dem effort to strip away our God-given rights and way of life. Frick these pieces of shit. We donā€™t give them another fricking penny. Donate directly to the Trump and MAGA candidates campaigns. NEVER DONATE TO THE GOP, RNC, or any other eGOP PACā€¦EVER AGAIN!!

So close to figuring out he's just a paypig :marseycapitalistmanlet:

The problem is, Trump isnā€™t going to give him the Ted Cruz treatment, he will go relentless scorched earth on him like he did to Jeb! which could end DeSantis as a politician. While many of you understandably might like that (loyalists), DeSantis has been doing a lot of great things in Florida.

TIL, Jeb would have been the president if it wasn't for Daddy's outstanding political attacks.

WE are not dividing our base. The unreliable "leaders" are outing themselves. Cesar. Don't divide the party. Brutus is an Allie.

:marseypass:?

Yep, sad. Dude started out well but promptly surrounded himself with essentially every single self-serving backstabber on the right that have been trying to destroy our movement for half a decade. Heā€™s 100% guaranteed that I will never vote for him, for any position at any level in either a general or primary election. Heā€™s at the same level as Mitt Romney now.

You can say the same about Trump frankly. He had four years in the White House, two of which with a Congress and Supreme Court controlled by Republicans, and all we seemingly got out of it was a partial fence along the Rio Grande, tax cuts for guys like Bezos, and record black unemployment (how did that work out in 2020 lmfao). Oh, and let's not forget Trump appointing such characters as Anthony Fauci to positions of power, and keeping them there for the entire four years of his presidency. I like Trump as much as the next guy here, but we have to be honest with ourselves about his track record.

Republicans controlling Congress launched the Russian collusion investigation that destroyed his presidency. At least be honest. It was the entire D.C both GOP and democrats trying to destroy the Trump presidency

When the swamp drains you :chudjaktalking:

I wouldnā€™t even trust him as dog catcher with the people heā€™s surrounded himself with. His entire campaign team is made up almost exclusively of never trump RINOs who have blocked almost every single meaningful reform and initiative. His backers have arguably done as much or more to destroy this country as Biden and his ilk. Weā€™d be two years into Trumpā€™s second term with a booming economy, strong currency and no war if it werenā€™t for those goddarned motherlovers.

Politician that goes against Trump allies himself with other politicians that are against Trump :marseypearlclutch:

bUt yOO gUyZ - hE's nOt rUNniNg, hE hAzN't eVeN aNNoUnCeD yEt...

Well he hasn't...

"wEll, hE hAsN't..." -R-slurred Cute twink

:#marseyxd:

If Ron runs against Trump he will probably bash tf out of the left. Imagine Trump and Desantis airing out the lefts hypocrisies. Then after the damage is done to the left he will leave the race leaving Trump to his victory.

Q predicted this!

Good, letā€™s get this over with quickly. Steal money from stupid old people who want to vote for Trump ā€œbUt Heā€™S jUsT sO rUdE aNd CrAsS!ā€ Idk his camp probably thinks they can make a good showing in a debate so maybe he sticks it out through a few primaries, still underestimating the best debater in Presidential history. You donā€™t know what you are up against Ron. Donald Trump will sneak in 3-4 words when youā€™re not expecting it and reviewing your script, the crowd will go wild and others will involuntarily cheer and you will be thrown so far off your game, you will not recover. Why do people think Trump is dumb? Because he speaks in laymanā€™s terms?

:#marseydarktrump:

I'm hoping whoever loses the Republican primary drops out of the race. If both go into the general elections I could see a divided vote among conservatives and biden taking the win.

Desantis would drop out... Trump on the other hand? Tough call, I think he would though

Oh yeah, Daddy has proven to be a very graceful loser in the past :marseylaugh:

Trumps actual political stances donā€™t matter anymore. He has been blacklisted in the court of public/mainstream opinion. He could cure cancer and MSM would still lambast him for it. I really donā€™t know how people are still failing to realize this.

He has been blacklisted by the media and Deep State, but they do not represent the will of the electorate (as much as they would like to claim otherwise). Trumpā€™s poll numbers currently have him with a 7 point lead over Biden and a huge lead over DeSantis, so itā€™s clear the actual court of public opinion holds him in relatively high regard.

Every fake news accusation and baseless legal charge drives Trumpā€™s poll numbers higher, which means the public sympathizes with Trumpā€™s claim that he is being wrongfully persecuted for purely political reasons (especially after the Durham report proved this political bias to be both real and pervasive).

The whole country is rooting for Daddy guys!

Completely disagree. The polling shows Trump is far ahead, and the Durham report will escalate those numbers. DeSantis needs to tell the Bushes and Paul Ryan, ā€œthanks for the money, but Iā€™m waiting until 2028.ā€

Unfortunately not a single person outside of the online right cares about the Durham report

The Durham report will surely be the end of Hillary :marseysal:

Trump facing DeSantis will only sharpen either candidate, and to bypass that is what a fricking r-slurred person who doesn't want a strong candidate would do. The whole "omg don't go against X in the primary you will weaken him!" is political bullshit that has literally never rang true, and people repeating it are NPCs.

:#marseypopcorn:

That's it right there. If he loved this country, he'd support and back Trump, continue running Florida like he has and run in 2028. If he did that, he'd win. Running against Trump in this election shows he's nothing more than a deep state asset pretending he loves his state and the country. He can't win but if he did, he'd be another do-nothing Bush-like neocon.

You can only love America if you suck Daddy's peepee :marseyindignant:

Trump should immediately endorse someone else for Florida Governor and push DeCute twink out of office completely.

Florida governors office has term limits, He can't run next cycle anyway.

Good. I'd like to see maybe Don Jr. run. He'd be likely to win.

It doesn't even matter that DeSantis managed to score a few victories for their political agenda, they would rather have a politician who does nothing as long as he kisses Trump's butt hard enough :marseylaugh:

I swear this man's memory is about 3 seconds long. DeSantis endorsed a few people who lost special elections where no one shows up to vote anyways? The magic is gone. Trump endorses a pile of people including some true garbage candidates, almost all of them lose, and its Trump 2024 all the way!!!! I swear if I didn't know any better Biden is paying him to run again. We're going to end up with a repeat of 2020 and 2022 thanks to this man.

The helpless desperation is hilarious :marseysmug:

His whole, lame candidacy is just sad.

This is about DeSantis, if it's not clear.

Trump got his fat orange butt handed to him by Biden in NH. He lost the state by 10 points. And he will get his fat butt handed to him again if he is the nominee in 2024.

Only a few months ago this guy would have been banned for this comment, now he actually got upmarseyd :marseynoyou:

Donā€™t know why youā€™re being downmarseyd - the truth hurts I guess. It doesnā€™t help that the guy has no charisma and is a 5ā€™7 manlet - that combo alone dooms him on the national stage regardless of his policies or whether Trump is in the race.

:#marseyhesright:

He should have stayed in Israel.

Maybe he has a better job to do here in America :marseymerchant:

Buddy of mine used to work closely with him, says there is tons of dirt on this globalist butthole.

Were they visiting any islands together :marseyhmm:

I used to like Desantis. I donā€™t like him anymore but I used to too.

This is what happens when boomers try to meme :marseycringe:

Am I the only one who's worried that DeSantis supporters increasingly sound like Bernie supporters? The dogma is unreal.

:#marseysanders:

I won't support midget Ron.

:#marseygigachad:

I had no idea how corrupt everything is until I started paying attention in 2015. I always knew the government was bad, but these last few years have been absolutely mind blowing.

Apparently the 2016 election was the first election of every political nutjob on the internet :marseymanysuchcases:

I decided who to vote for on June 16, 2015. I don't see any reason to change my mind.

Wingcucks are literally incapable of of changing their minds :marseyhorseshoe:

Why are we afraid for our two biggest alpha males go at it and see who comes out the winner. I thought that was what we were all about. What are we afraid of?

>Alpha males

One is :marseymanlet: and the other :marseychonker2:

Lol Trump is dominating him in every national GOP primary poll, including FL.

Who would top in a fight between those two? Daddy is more aggressive but he might fold faster since he's older :marseythinkorino:

was that before or after he sucked soros peepee?

Just kidding, Soros tops them both!

True, Trump has the image of strong man, which is appealing to women voters as well. That is the reason Trump did better than expected with women in 2016 and 2020. DeSantis will turn off them with his weak demeanor. This is just an example. There are other issues with him.

Somehow I really don't think it's women who are attracted to Trump's macho image... :marseytrumpgarrison:

I'm uncomfortable about this. Trump is a resident of the state of Florida, and his own governor is running against him in an election. It just feels like some kind of conflict of interest. Maybe that's why they have laws that you can't hold one office when you run for another; you might be running against one of your own constituents. Conflict of interest.

DeSantis should just end this battle by making Daddy a political prisoner :marseyironmaiden: :marseyagreefast:

DisLoyal DeSantis.

This is actually better that DeSanctimonious, Daddy is losing his touch :marseysigh:

Which is what DeCute twink would have done if he werenā€™t so DisLoyal.

And they ran it to the ground already :marseyitsover:

That's the plan, stan....split the right. Deswampis is not a candidate, he's a cancer

This one's pretty good too tho :marseywereback:

Meatball is blowing it.

Could have had the easiest re-election in Florida and practically guaranteed 2028 pres. Now he will never be anything more than meatball.

This is the closest thing to a meatball emoji we have :marseymeatwad:

RIP DeSantis political career

yup, 30Pence will have a better chance in 2028 after this.

>30Pence :marseyxd:

DeSwampis would just be nitpicking what Trump didn't get done and acting like he could do better, when everyone knows he would fold like a two dollar lawn chair if he was ever subjected to what Trump had to fight through to get ANYTHING done.

Trump would rightfully point out that DeSwampis is a dollar store knock off who has been riding his coattails ever since he picked him up from nowhere and handed him Florida.. also that he's a disloyal RINO who is more than willing to sell himself out to the same establishment he pretends to be fighting.

DeSwampis should be very afraid. Trump will end his career as quickly as he gave it to him.

Why are they acting like Trump was a king who offered a newly conquered country to some general to rule? :marseyking:

He really couldn't wait until 2028. His term as gov ends in 2026. It is very difficult to stay relevant in the public eye in politics without a bully-pulpit or platform for execution.

Based on how the GOP does things, with people "waiting their turn," the first run is almost never allowed to be successful either. If he ran for the first time in 2028, he wouldn't be "allowed" to win until 2032.

If he's going to do this, it is pretty much now or never. This was fine had Trump actually fought and won in 2020. He'd be a perfect transition from Trump. Trump cucking out and walking away from the 2020 fraud when the buck stopped on his desk not only ruined the country, it ruined all succession plans too.

DeSantis has no way to win against Trump. DeSantis is better at policy than Trump, but that is because he is an actual neurodivergent. Neurodivergents don't have charisma, and DeSantis doesn't. He has no chance in a debate against Trump.

Of course, if Trump does something really stupid and refuses to debate against DeSantis, DeSantis will do far, far better than anyone would expect in the primaries. And if something then happens to Trump's candidacy (arrest, jail, whatever) then all bets are off.

This isn't the only comment calling DeSantis an neurodivergent, what gives? :marseyautism:

He's hoping his funders will get Trump jailed so he can't run. If that happens, I will be voting Democrat to burn this fricking nation to the ground. A lot of us simply won't vote or will write Trump's name in. Meaning the corrupt demented Biden Inc regime will continue to strip mine the US and its Corps of its wealth while sending it to China making a leftard communist takeover inevitable during his second regime.

I want all the RINO Corporate types to get ready for full on communism if they lock up Trump. They can get on board the Trump train or get ready to learn what it means to be a good comrade and start breaking rocks. I gotta admit, If I end up in the gulag death camps if I can have Mark Zuckerberg to my right and Bill Gates to my left as we are breaking rocks, my mouth would be going non-stop how this is their fault, how'd it work out for them rigging the system, oh sorry your daughter died yesterday of exhaustion from rock breaking comrade traitor.

These corporate types think they are getting China, nope they are getting Soviet Union. Trump is the best way out of the gulag nightmare coming, and the wealthy need to fricking learn that.

I'm putting this last because it's my favorite comment :marseyfluffy:

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Before we get into the juicy drama, we need to clarify a couple things, since I know the average dramatard is chronically ignorant of things that exist outside america :muttrun:. If you already know this stuff then you can skip it.

The Spanish Civil War

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16842180178892462.webp

During the late 1930s Spain was in the middle of a civil war, it had previously been a short lived unstable democratic republic, led by left-wing revolutionaries (Republicans :trumpjaktalking:), until pro-monarchy christo fascist movements (Nationalists :marseyauthright:) decided they wanted to retvrn to tradition so they staged a coup and war begun. I'm not going to go into the details of the war because they really don't matter. All you need to know is that Republicans were the reddit atheists :marseyneckbeard: and Nationalists were the marble statue twitter accounts. :marseyrightoidschizo:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16842180181006432.webp

Religious Persecution in Republican territory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror_(Spain)

We have established that Republicans weren't keen on religion, since the catholics were on the side of the Nationalists, hence after the failed coup of 1936, which started the war, a wave of violence against catholicism began in the Republican controlled areas of the country, referred to as the Red Terror, with horrible attacks such as priests being crucified and castrated, nuns being skinned alive and their tits being chopped off, churches being burned to the ground, etc. :marseywholesome: I should clarify most of these people were not combatants and they were mainly killed for the crime of being catholic. Of course Republicans were the heckin Good Guysā„¢ defending democracy from the Christo-Fascists so it was totally justified, no doubt.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16842180180509114.webp

Around fifty thousand people lost their lives to this wave of violence, up until 1939 when Francisco Voldemort won the war and stopped the heckin wholesome peer reviewed schezwuan sauce religious pogroms. :marseysoyseethe:

The Actual Drama

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16842180182455862.webp

Note: For those of you who suffer from American. Beatification is the Church's way of officially declaring that someone went to heaven, xoxo. :marseyblowkiss:

Around 2013 the Catholic church, led by pope Francis :marseypope:, decided to beatify 522 victims of the Spanish Civil War, holding a ceremony in Spain to mourn the victims of the Red Terror, very nice and dandy. But Francis did a heckin wrong-think by recognizing the murders done by the Good Guysā„¢ as unwholesome, which caused a bit of a fuzz, as we'll see.

Despite clarifying beforehand that the ceremony was to honour the victims and not a political one, and that they were in support of the Nationalists nor against the Republicans, this did not stop left wing groups from intensely seething because someone pointed out a bad thing the Republicans did, instead of blaming everything on Francoism (as is tradition in Spain).

From Spanish Wikipedia.

The movement "ProcƩs Constituent a Catalunya" issued a statement opposing the event and considering it an injustice to the republican victims who defended democratic freedoms. :soycry:

We had to behead those nuns and put their heads on sticks at the entrance of their church to uphold democracy, chud, you wouldn't understand.

The Christian association EsglĆ©sia Plural warned that the beatifications could become an act of fascist exaltation and Spanish nationalism, and warned that extreme right-wing groups, such as the AsociaciĆ³n Cruz de San AndrĆ©s and the Liga Tradicionalista, were calling for the participation of their sympathizers. :soyjaktantrum:

The worst part about us mass murdering priests and nuns is that it gives chuds a valid argument.

The Popular Unity Candidacy (CUP) of Tarragona requested to the plenary session of the city council that the consistory not be involved in the act, because it considered that it went against the secular character of public institutions. It also asked to reconsider, for security reasons, the presence of American warships, that the archbishopric assume all the costs and that the Spanish royal family not be invited. He also warned that the act could "hurt the sensitivity of those people and relatives who suffered the consequences of the coup d'Ć©tat and Franco's dictatorship and who still await recognition and restoration of the place where they suffered (Las Oblatas, the Antigua Audiencia, the mass graves of the cemetery...)." :soyjakcobson:

Trauma is when people mourn victims of war.

On October 10 there was a concentration of a hundred people of the Coordinadora para la Laicidad y la Dignidad, with 1700 signatures of support and the adhesion of 59 entities, according to the organizers. It ended with the reading of a manifesto that was hand-delivered to the Archbishop of Tarragona, Jaume Pujol, where they demanded the Church to recognize the dignity of all the victims, to say that the coup d'Ć©tat of 1936 was illegal and to apologize for the proximity to the Franco regime. :soyjakferal:

All lives matter, chud.

A group of entities of the anti-capitalist, pro-independence, Marxist and libertarian left (the trade unions Co.Bas and CGT, the organizations Arran, SEPC, Endavant, CUP, Revolta Global and the Unified Socialist Network of Catalonia, and the local collectives Cau de Llunes, Brot Bord, Friends of Che and Ateneu Llibertari AlomĆ  :soyjakfat:

Friends of Che lmao :marseyxd:. Watch out chud, the larper squads have arrived.

They called a demonstration in Tarragona with the slogan "Against fascism and the coup church" for October 12 at 6 pm, with a route from the "statue of the naked" in the Rambla Nova to the Plaza de Poniente. The collectives said that they are not against religious beliefs or the fact of beatification, but the "fascist connotations" of the acts and the choice of the same weekend of Columbus Day. The event brought together about 500 people. :soyjakyell:

500 p-p-people!? Shiver me timbers! :marseypearlclutch:

In the end the Church gave a half-assed apology and told people to forgive and forget, and the commies still seethed with rage, positive outcome for dramacoin. :chudcheers:

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EFFORTPOST Anti capitalist cafe shuts down after not making enough money :marseypoor:. Commies seething and chuds gloating

Context

Video talking about the cafe:

Link to tweet discussing when it first opened

The coffee shop was a worker (one worker to be specific) owned, anti capitalist, anti colonial (?) cafe. Where you could read all :marseylongpost: from great progressive authors while enjoying a cup of overpriced coffee.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841915042676084.webp


They leaned heavily into creating a safe space of People of color, so no dumb cops or army people were allowed on the premise. :acab:.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/168419150496943.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841915055529904.webp


The cafe also made the wise choice of being open from 9 to 5, the time when all of the working class people were wage cucking lol

They also had this cool idea where you only had to pay as much as you could afford. Surely this wouldn't backfire :marseyclueless:

Anyway less than a year later the cafe opening, the cafe shuts down and the owner puts at a statement on why it failed:

Unfortunately, the lack of generational wealth/seed capital from ethically bankrupt sources left me unable to weather the quiet winter season, or to grow in the ways needed to be sustainable longer-term,"

The landlord was also giving them a 50% discount on their rent and that darn capitalism still managed to shut them down :marseypoor:

Link to article about the cafe failing


Drama

R/Toronto Thread

ITT: brain-dead conservatives spewing the anti-leftist propaganda their mommies and daddies brainwashed them in, which they never questioned or thought seriously about.

As opposed to the super intelligent anti capitalist hate monger that couldnt keep their business alive for more than a year paying 1/2 price rent.šŸ¤”

:#marseythinkorino:

im not supporting this cafe cause i donā€™t know their true intentions. but why is everyone here a super fan of capitalism? Yā€™all better be landlords or factory owners cause the bootlicking is crazy šŸ˜

For most of us it's worked out pretty well! And the alternatives don't look very appealing.

Yes, it worked well if you are a boomer who was able to buy up all the properties and become a full time landlord. For, the rest of us housing has become a luxury. This in my eyes is a systematic failure.

I'm GenX and have been eating the shit most of my adult life. But jcd ain't wrong (and often is), no alternative system provides better quality of life for the majority of people that we've figured out, thus far. Where we're really failing is on who we elect and how we balance our current system. But that's a whole other topic.

You do realize that capitalism is one of the only systems that marks basic human needs as luxuries? The only difference is that failures under capitalism are not properly accounted for. If a person is homeless under capitalism, itā€™s marked as the persons fault and not the states. If a person is hungry under capitalism, itā€™s marked as the persons fault and not the states. Since capitalism depends on the core belief that the meritocracy is real, every failure is attributed to personal failure and not a systematic issue. This is why people think capitalism is the best system because every failure is accredited to the individual suffering those conditions.

:#marseylongpost2:


R/Neoliberal

Idk, you could literally just get together with some people and start a co-op. I lean left myself and donā€™t understand why we donā€™t just start a general co-op culture

Having dealt with co-ops, they tend to be really poorly run and are prone to major internal political drama as different types of employees have different interests. Older co-op owners tend not to want to reinvest in the business to maximize their own returns. Smarter younger owners do want to reinvest so they make more money long term. Dumb younger owners want to do all sorts of different shit. People want to cut corners. People don't want to do bad jobs and everyone suddenly thinks they're a business genius.

Your argument basically boils down to "people are too dumb for democracy to work". I'm not asking this to be snarky, this is honestly something I struggle with myself. Do you think that the problem you describe here justifies the authoritarian mode of production we use now? If so, why is this different from how we run our governments? Should we be modeling our government more like China's to make sure it's run better and not prone to internal political drama?

:#marseyagreefast:

What exactly made it anti-capitalist? It says they had Marxist literature, but so does Barnes & Noble, but they sure as heck aren't anti-capitalist.

vibes

:#marseyvibing:


R/Destiny

So, is this one of the bad leftie Twitter people, or are we just laughing at the misfortune of others at this point?

it's just laughing at a stupid business that existed in contradiction to what it seemingly was preaching. it's like having a pro-Semitic non-racist Jewish Death Camp or a homosexual who's only attracted to the opposite s*x.


Frick lefties I wish them the worst, this bottom feeding commie hopefully learns what being poor is

:#marseykingcrown:


Twitter Sneed

I don't see being a successful anticapitalist service within the structure & culture of unbridled capitalism. To make it work people frequenting cafe would have to share anticapitalist values & they obviously did not.

NOOOO THE CUSTOMERS HAD THE WRONG VALUES THATS WHY IT FAILED

:#soycry:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841915061940887.webp

Link

Someone make a marsey of the meme


Socialism. Does. Not. Work.

Imagine seeing a Cafe called ā€˜The Anarchistā€™ going out of business and in response you say ā€œSocialism. Does. Not. Work.ā€. Do you not know what Anarchism is? Do you not know what Socialism is? Can you even read?

No and I dont care

:#marseyretardchad:


[Twitter search for the cafe](https://x.com/search?q=toronto cafe&t=SL0NgnPVHsAMTlONYcbNjg&s=09) mostly just capitalist chuds gloating

:#marseybluecheck:


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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica:University of Cape Town :marseyflagsouthafrica: yearly Israel vs Palestine Drama :marseyisrael::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::marseyflagpalestine:

Greetings Dramatards! :marseyfluffy:

Ever heard of UCT (the University of Cape Town)? That's where I studied Land Surveying. And just like a rural redneck hick whom came from his backwards isolated tiny town, into the big turbo liberal city, did I also experience a plethora of batshit insane political grandstanding and sneeding regarding various subject, during my time studying there.

One which particularly brings back memories is the annual passive aggressive grandstanding between Palestinian and Israeli students every year in February during Orientation Week. In this Orientation Week, all the new 1st year students are shown the location of their Residencies, lecture localities, admin buildings, and all they need by 2nd to 4th year mentors and council members by the various faculties like Sciences, Engineering or Humanities. During that orientation week, the entire Upper Campus (the main section of the university where all the lecture halls are located) is filled with booths advertising all of the societies and clubs hosted by the university. https://schoolgistsa.co.za/uct-student-societies-and-organizations/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838973997346897.webp

Among these organizations are extracurricular activities like Sports: Rugby, soccer, martial arts, swimming clubs. Then there's student churches for every conceivable religion. And even extreme activities like Hiking and Skiing club - in which UCT would be willing to sponsor you if you were a seasoned mountain climber or whatever. I think the only club I ever joined was the Hiking club and the chess club, in which the other chess players always pulverized me.

https://www.news.uct.ac.za/article/-2017-03-20-o-week

Among these Orientation Week booths advertising their clubs, were also political societies like student Political Parties for like the DA, ANC or EFF for example. Then there are obscure political societies for every nationality from foreign countries like below:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16839018840295515.webp

But the most drama inducing and earthshakingly screetch providers every year - was the Palestine vs Israel booths located opposite each other, over the main plaza, just called..... the Plaza, as located before the Jameson Hall. For since forever, as in before I arrived at UCT, these two politcal booths have been turbo nuclear drama generators, especially the very very liberal and activist Palestinian one.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974020683835.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974035079653.webp

Every single year, UCT Leadership had mandated that each booth be allowed equal say, and equal Plaza space to give their side of the story, to give their version of events of the never ending Palestine-Israel conflict. And the mere fact that UCT has even ALLOWED the israelites a booth and space on the Plaza, to give their side of events, have eternally caused turbo seeeeeth amongst the Muslim students of UCT and Cape Town.


SLAPFIGHTS BETWEEN PALESTINIAN AND JEWISH STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS REGARDING BOOTH PLACEMENT ON JAMESON PLAZA:

https://www.facebook.com/UCTPSF/photos/uct-palestine-solidarity-forums-mock-israel-apartheid-wall-has-been-moved-from-t/1629256147092508/?paipv=0&eav=AfadMX23J1KFj2w9YKgMj1NppSFnTX01aEgvVGBGTD6xyxZqHtpWNDh0Zsm60zYqch0&_rdr

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974015273147.webp

Here's a facebook post from 2017 March which proudly showcases the pettiness of the Palestine Solidarity Forum. It's an absolutely PERFECT post - because it's a microcosm of the perpetual slapfight between SAUJS and the Palestine Solidarity Forum. Almost every second year they would pull their art walls and booths and Political posters into the middle of the Plaza, in direct insubordination of UCT leadership mandate (which states that both factions be afforded equal space and prominence), to show the MAN that they won't take NO for answer against racist Israel.

================"UCT Palestine Solidarity Forumā€™s mock Israel apartheid wall has been moved from the one side of Jameson (Marikana Memorial) Plaza into the centre of it.

We reject the setup of Plaza dictated to us by UCT management that stipulates that PSF be given one side of Plaza to present the Palestinian narrative, while SAUJS be given the other side of Plaza to present the Israeli narrative. This normalises the oppression of the Palestinian people.

Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) is not an exercise of intellectual flexing. Nor is it an event of fantasy with no relation to the real world. There is a very clear power differential in the Israel-Palestine conflict. Israel is the oppressor, Palestine is the oppressed. Those who believe otherwise are misguided (or just plainly racist).

By placing the Palestinian narrative on one side of Plaza, and the Israeli narrative on the other, the setup of the space portrays both Israel and Palestine as equally responsible for the conflict. It suggests that the conflict is two-sided, and both Israel and Palestine hold moral legitimacy. It cannot be that students are deceived by this visual distortion of actual oppression. The fact that the oppressor is afforded such prominent space on Plaza is in itself deeply problematic. The fact that they are afforded an equal share of the space with the oppressed is unacceptable. Especially considering that SAUJS has refused PSFā€™s invitation to constructively debate on Thursday, we cannot allow that they freely propagate lies and hide the oppression of Palestinians behind their free coffee and food.

Lastly, SAUJS will undoubtedly complain about the wall being moved, and we will inevitably be disciplined by the university. We are unfazed by this.

But technically, we are only breaking the universityā€™s rules governing IAW as much as SAUJS has already done. The IAW Code of Conduct stipulates that both PSF and SAUJSā€™ structures must be confined to an 8x8 zone on either side of Plaza. SAUJSā€™ tent measures 12x9 with its full extensions, and 9x7 without. UCT Health and Safety ruled that even though SAUJSā€™ tent extends outside of its allocated 8x8 zone, because its 9x7 tent fits within the square meterage of 64 squared metres, its one metre extension outside of their 8x8 zone is acceptable. Our structure measures significantly less than the amount by which SAUJSā€™ tent extends outside of their zone and its square meterage is a mere fraction of SAUJSā€™ tent. And so, if the square meterage of 64 metres squared is the relevant measurement, then we are entitled to have a structure on plaza with the dimensions of 64x1; and if SAUJSā€™ structure is allowed to take up some space out of their allocated zone, so too should our structure be allowed to take up an equal amount of space out of our allocated zone.

This is undoubtedly insignificant semantics and a fairly petty argument, but unfortunately it is the only language UCT understands. However, regardless of whether SAUJSā€™ tent extends out of its zone or not, it is always justified to centre the narrative of the oppressed, even if it breaks the rules." ====================== (from facebook post)

Yeah, you read that right, they are having a struggle session regarding the fricking precise dimensions the Jewlords are allowed to have their booth tents occupy. :marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist:


HAMAS SPEAKS AT UCT:

But just in case you guys thought it was only Palistinards whom were overly dramatic, here's some statement from the SA Zionists this very year. To be fair, they did host actual Hamas members, be we've all seen the perpetual back and forth debates regarding redditors defining whether Hamas is actually a terror organization, so the point is moot, depending on who does the screaming.

https://www.sazf.org/current-issues/uct-fails-to-condemn-promotion-of-hate-speech

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683897401840561.webp

The rest goes on and on about how our Jewlords are going to assblast the UCT Council with legal action, but the point remains here is that for like at least two decades, UCT has been completely stuck between the two groups of Palestinoids and Jewlords screaming IRL and online to the UCT leadership about how evil and terrible the other side is, and UCT has tried its very best to remain neutral on this issue, as there is like zero advantage to taking a side.

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/war-of-words-after-uct-student-body-screens-messages-from-hamas-palestinian-islamic-jihad-20230323


Back in 2021, when the entire reddit turned into a hate echo chamber against israel for like 2 months, when the regular 5 year spat between palestine and israel was frontpage never-ending news, and the violence at Gaza was at an all time high, UCT tweeted the following, preaching for peace and future solidarity for both sides. I'm mentioning this to demonstrate how very hard UCT has tried to be neutral regarding this toxic matter, even in the current era.

https://x.com/UCT_news/status/1394567923889590272

Lots of sneed in the comments from activists.


JEWS OUTNUMBERED AT UCT:

Additionally it should be mentioned that our Jewish friends on UCT Upper Campus tends to be at a distinct disadvantage regarding getting their voice heard. They are vastly outnumbered by their muslim peers, and leftwingers whom are notorious for supporting Palestine & Hamas, and reducing the astronomically complicated situation in which the Israelites and Palestinians find themselves today, into a reductive bellow about how modern Jewland is an Apartheid state.

https://www.facebook.com/saujs/posts/723284987812278/?paipv=0&eav=AfYOcEbjj-epc2XM8guJ3tR2SJN1QoORCU5EBCikobHQeaaN89sja4wLISnjeVGPuwM&_rdr

To make matters even more of an uphill battle for the SAUJS - South African Union of Jewish Students - is that half of Cape Town's coloured population are muslims, this includes the proportional student body. And most ANC supporters tend to be left or left adjacent regarding these hot topics, so consequently many black students, if they even have an opinion regarding Israel, it's immediately negatively activated with speeches regarding Israeli Apartheid.

Most white students tend to be all over politically, but as usual leftwingers tend to be the most politically active, and have their voices heard much louder and often than their cucked right wing peers whom tend to keep their heads down.

The long boring point is that the Jewish students of UCT tend to be vastly outnumbered, and whenever the Pro-palestine faction does something physical like overwhelm the jewish faction, then it tens to be like a swarm of 500 people against a small itty bitty group of like 10-15 peeps. By this I don't claim that I know of that there has ever been violence on Upper Campus, BLM riots style, between the factions, but often the pro-Palestine faction would do stuff like interrupt speeches in hall given by prominent israelites or people giving their views on the matters regarding complex situation, and thus forcefully breaking up the debates or shouting down the poor outnumbered jewish cucks.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683897402105168.webp

Can't exactly fight against this.

https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/al-quds-day-call-for-palestinians-right-to-self-defence-boycott-of-zionist-products-in-sa-d32c3c69-0b82-468a-84f3-5785ee04b747

Here's a civil organization calling for boycott of Isreali goods imported to RSA. I mention this to show the metric shitload of people, even outside of UCT, which hold the pro-palistine and anti-jew views in Cape Town, and how much support the Palestine Solidarity Forum enjoys from the surrounding populace, compared to their jewish peers. This was in April this year.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974028140538.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683897402987867.webp


UCT SENATE VOTES ON BOYCOTTING ISRAELI INSTITUTIONS:

https://www.vocfm.co.za/psf-and-sazf-both-claim-victory-in-uct-israeli-boycott-decision/

Back in 2019 UCT had another drama hurricane when the UCT senate made a vote regarding the offciall boycott of Israel Academically - meaning that they would not recognize Israeli universities or something, I have no idea, it was something petty and insubstantial to make everyone grind their teeth in wingcuckery impotence.

What was significant was that "The proposal was received by the UCT council, having been passed by the senate with 62 in favour, 43 against and 10 abstentions. Despite this, the council has resolved to refer the matter back to senate". Thus caused turbo sneed amongst all of the muslim students, and a lot of peeps claimed that our Zionist Jewlords were paying off the UCT leadership.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974026905649.webp

Back in 2018 there was similar useless spats

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/university-of-cape-town-blocks-academic-boycott-of-israel-585316

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974032187612.webp

https://www.scribd.com/article/437449055/South-Africa-University-Refuses-Support-For-Israel-Boycott

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683897403366503.webp


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191026-nelson-mandelas-church-has-adopted-a-boycott-of-israel-to-be-emulated/

A local church also cried for boycott of Israeli goods. Long Winded, the TLDR is that ANC and leftwingers don't like Israel. Back in 1940s to 1980s Israel was one of the few nations which supported the Union of South Africa, and both were unique pariahs thus both nations had a strange pariah relationship with each other. ANC still sore about that.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-cape-town-students-pass-bds-jews-fear-campus-nightmare/

Way back in 2014 UCT leadership had a secret vote to decide on banning Jewish organizations.

========"At a closed-doors meeting last week, the University of Cape Townā€™s umbrella student organization adopted a proposal pushing for Boycott, Sanction, and Divest measures against Israel for all student-run organizations and events. University management must this week decide whether to adopt it. Jewish students fear their campus organization may be banned, and that they are in for a nightmarish period.

In line with the vituperative anti-Israel rhetoric sweeping South Africa since the start of Operation Protective Edge, the University of Cape Town Student Representative Council voted last Monday to adopt a resolution supporting BDS, declaring Israel an apartheid state, and calling for the expulsion of Israelā€™s ambassador."========


VIEWPOINTS FOM JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS ON CAMPUSSES:

I include the following to show how the UCT and other RSA jew students view themselves, and how they feel when being opposed by organizations like Palestine Solidarity Forum.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974036975403.webp

https://www.standwithus.com/post/standwithus-and-south-african-union-of-jewish-students-team-to-combat-iaw-2022

=========Every year around the world, anti-Israel groups host an "Israel Apartheid Week," (IAW) a global campaign of hate that dehumanizes Israelis and often seeks to intimidate Jewish university students. This movement has significant momentum, specifically in South Africa, leaving local pro-Israel students with an overwhelmingly hostile campus climate. =========

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838974038860257.webp

Some super hot Jewess babes :marseymommymilkers::marseymommymilkers::marseymommymilkers:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683897404169784.webp

====(from the article)

"In 2022, IAW was held March 21-28. StandWithUs is annually invited by the South African Union of Jewish Students (SAUJS) for the on-the-ground delegation to support Jewish students in South Africa during BDSā€™ Israel Apartheid Week. StandWithUs Israel Director of Partnerships Noa Raman led a delegation of Israelis from all backgrounds: Druze, Brazilian, Moroccan, and Jerusalemite Israeli. This delegation serves as the backbone of the pro-Israel campaign and was led by the South African Union of Jewish Students.

This was in contrast to the hate-filled campaign endorsed by BDS, an organization that calls for the destruction of the Jewish state, dialogue and healing that they choose to disrespect the rules wherever they could. Throughout the week they ripped down SAUJS posters, went behind the administrations back to deface SAUJSā€™s peaceful mural, and their most nasty action was painting a SAUJS t-shirt in ā€œblood stainedā€ paint.

Manipulative and despicable tactics of BDS are not new. The administration will handle such behavior accordingly. Meanwhile SAUJS and StandWithUs stood their ground and were not intimidated by such actions. The StandWithUs team launched an effective response for students on the ground; we organized an educated and trained team of Israeli delegates to mobilize pro-Israel students, help develop an effective educational campaign with tailored strategies and messaging, and engage hundreds of South African students during IAW. SA students will feel empowered to stand proud with their cultures, religions, identities and beliefs and push back against antisemitism. "============


Right sorry for the confusing and disjointed post, I didn't know how to organize these.:marseyretard2:

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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: South African Rhino breeding Drama in private wild game farms.

Greetings Dramatards :marseywave2:

Today I wanna talk about drama involving Rhinos in South Africa. They are a critically endangered species, and South Africa has been doing a really REALLY shit job at protecting them. The main culprit of their decline has been the near total absent Border Control by the SADF border patrols, thus allowing many poachers to enter and retreat across South Africa boundaries, and even within SOuth Africa with impunity. The main line of defense have been National Park wardens and special mercenaries whom explicit job it is ward off poachers from places like the North Kruger National Park. In the Union of South Africa days, the military and police were exceptionally vigilant, now in modern corrupt faltering RSA, only a few groups of underpaid overworked game wardens stand between total extinction of all of Southern Africa's last remaining Rhino species.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683802877240896.webp

The main culprits of enablement also tends to be the neighbouring dysfunctional governments of Mozambique and Zimbabwe, whom does even less than South Africa because they are in an even worse off political and economic situation than RSA, and quite frankly protecting endangered species isn't high on their priorities. Additionally the economic lack of opportunity also means that desperate poor africans are easily bribed by chinese and foreign mercenary groups whom specialize in poaching to do the dirty work for them. Thus poachers can have free reign to drive across the 4 separate nations which borders the Kruger National Park for example, and our poor understaffed game wardens have to play wack a mole, in an area consisting of 19 485 kmĀ². It's a slow losing battle and has been since 2008.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028417585666.webp


RHINO NEAR EXTINCTION STATISTICS:

https://rhinos.org/our-work/where-we-work/south-africa/

https://www.savetherhino.org/rhino-info/poaching-stats/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683802876971314.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683802876905598.webp

During the crisis of 2013 to 2017 at least a thousand rhinos were poached from RSA territory yearly.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028767581658.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683802876592445.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028763908646.webp

The preservation efforts with the help of new technology like drone areal observation and nigh vision have allowed Kruger National Park rangers a better capacity to stop poachers, but now south african gangs have started targeting smaller less prominent Reserve Parks like the famous Hluhluwe-iMfolozi Park.


https://www.savetherhino.org/poaching-crisis/protecting-hips-rhinos/

"In the late 19th century, following decades of intense hunting, Southern white rhinos were thought to be extinct, until fewer than 100 were discovered in HiP. Against the odds, dedicated people protected the remaining rhinos. Thankfully the population grew, and in time rhinos could be moved elsewhere, expanding the subspecies into other reserves in South Africa and beyond. Today, itā€™s thought that all Southern white rhinos originated from that one tiny HiP population.More than a century later, the Parkā€™s rhinos are once again facing an immense threat. The reduced rhino population within Kruger National Park has pushed poachers into new areas, and the north of KwaZulu-Natal (KZN) Province, where HiP sits, has been severely targeted by poaching gangs this year. Between January and September, reports suggest that 190 rhinos have been poached within KZN. During the first nine months of 2022, one rhino was killed every 35 hours in the Province." (from the article)


CURRENT APPROXIMATE RHINO POPULATIONS:

https://www.savetherhino.org/rhino-info/population-figures/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028771007793.webp


https://www.helpingrhinos.org/protecting-rhinos/

SOME FAN FACTS:

  1. The total population of rhino left on earth is fewer than 30,000. Three of the five rhino species in the world are listed as critically endangered or facing extinction.

  2. South Africa is home to 72% of the global population of rhino. but still two rhinos are still being lost every day at the hands of poachers.

  3. There are actually two species of Rhino in Africa - the Black Rhino (left) and White Rhino (right). The origin of the names for the Black and White rhino is also hilariously r-slurred. The first europeans whom encountered the 2 separate species - as in were aware there were 2 separate species - as they moved inland into the african continent, were the dutch/proto-afrikaners. Other than size, another noteworthy difference in appearance is their upper lip. The white rhino's name, in fact, has nothing to do with its colour. The name is derived from the dutch/Afrikaans word ā€œweitā€, which means wide, and refers to the animal's muzzle. Black rhinos, on the other hand, have more of a hooked lip. Early English settlers misinterpreted the ā€œwydā€ for ā€œwhiteā€. It is also sometimes called the square-lipped rhinoceros.

https://blog.viatu.com/en/blog/explained-black-rhino-vs-white-rhino

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028761544144.webp


So where's the drama kaamrev?!

https://saiia.org.za/research/south-africa-s-rhino-paradox/

DEBATES ABOUT PRESERVING RHINOS THROUGH DE-HORNING:

So basically since 2 decades ago as far back as 2000, afrikaans farmers and wild game reserve lodge masters have been begging the RSA government to allow they to legally be able to breed Rhinos, so that they might have stable population regrowth in the safety of smaller and better protected private wild game camps. Rhino's also breed incredibly slowly with an astronomically long gestation pregnancy period of 15 fricking months! https://rhinos.org/blog/how-long-are-rhino-pregnancies/ Thus even in the wild in optimal conditions, Rhinos are particularly bad at recuperating their lost populations. Modern farming techniques would have allowed them to artificially inseminate Rhino mothers to jump start the regrowth of populations and overcome the often scenario where Rhino just don't breed.

For as far back as 2000 this idea was controversial. Many naturalists and other hippy types abhorred the idea of enclosing these natural beasts in artificial zoo like camps, even if the wild game reserves were very large. Wild Game hunting lodges also had an overlap between the people whom could or would be able to afford the upkeep of these specialized Rhino reserves, and liberal people didn't trust hunters to preserve them.

But what was especially a nuclear bomb of dramatic sneed between these factions was the suggestion to legally farm Rhino horns, in order to curb the black market. The idea was to saw off the Rhino horns while they were sedated and asleep, in order to harvest the Rhino horn and undercut the black market. Sawing off the horns of rhinos had been done before (although without the intention of harvesting the horns, and only ensuring they hopefully would not be a target for the poachers whom were exclusively interested in Rhino horn, same as many chinese fishermen whom cut off the back fins of sharks and throw the rest of the fish overboard to drown, as only the fins are a prized delicacy). This was considered an absolutely desperation measure in the face of extinction, and only for those Rhino herds whom were in most peril, and under the constant threat of poachers, where wardens could simply not avail themselves to the rescue in time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/31/how-chopping-off-their-horns-helps-save-rhinos-from-poachers

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028419626884.webp

Needless to say, even this de-horning campaign was controversial and not applied everywhere since even the de-horning procedure is expensive and time consuming. The drug cocktails and expertise to immobilise the rhino is a ballooning cost that can't always be done indefinitely. But just for you dramatard's safety of mind, the cutting of Rhino horns is not painful to the Rhinos.Rhino horn is made of keratin, the same substance as you find in human hair and fingernails. Rhinos are born without horns, but within just a couple of months, a tiny stub appears ā€“ and their horns continue to grow for the rest of their lives. If a rhinoā€™s horn is removed without cutting into the skull, it can grow back to almost its full size after three years. However, if the rhino skull is cut into, it could stop the re-growth of the horn.

https://lifejourney4two.com/rhino-dehorning/


SA GOVERMENT CHANGES LEGISLATION REGARDING FARMING RHINOS:

https://www.helpingrhinos.org/news/394/south-africa-reclassify-wildlife-as-farm-animals/

Now it's important to not that Rhino horns have been harvested from even way back as 1950s, that's how we know the horns could be removed without harm to the animal. But since 1977 an international ban on the trade of Rhino horns had been implemented by the United Nations. And in 2009, the South African government put in a moratorium on trade in rhinoceros horns.

Of course, as the Rhino-poaching epidemic reached critical levels of at least a thousand Rhinos per year, and the Kruger National Park populations having fallen by have by the end of the decade since 2009, people were starting to turn around to other solutions in total desperation. The RSA gov was too corrupt and slow to adapt to this poaching crisis, and the National Parks of RSA simply did not have the funds to hire suffcient game Wardens to defend against this unparalleled onslaught against the South African Rhino populations.

Later the moratoruim against both Rhino farming AND de-horning would be overturned by 2017, when the South Africaā€™s Constitutional Court pulled back the moratoruim bans. The typical sneedfest began between hunters, liberals, naturalists, hippies and lodge owners about whether this was ethical, morally right, the correct path towards preservation, bla bla bla :slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight:

The two main camps of the argument was whether legalized Rhino horn auctions would undercut the black market, and thus oppose the poacher's will to continue poaching rhinos in Southern Africa. Opponents of the trade say demand for horns could increase as a result of legalisation, reviving dormant interest. This growth could outpace commercial supply, and even fuel more illegal poaching of wild animals. Critics also worry that ending the ban will remove any lingering stigma associated with possessing rhino horn, further boosting demand.

Further arguments against legal rhino horn trade was that chinks tend to see Wild animals as superior to that of those in captivity, and that legal horns on the market may not defend against poaching frequency.

"Historically, poaching has also been immune to fluctuations in the retail price of rhino horns. For the price mechanism to eradicate poaching, demand would need to bottom out. With demand actually increasing, and without a threshold price to encourage breeding, supply-side interventions are unlikely to be effective in protecting wild rhinos. Currently, rhino horn sells for as much as $60,000 per kilogram in parts of Asia."

Additionally the idea of undercutting Rhino horns on the black market is also a gamble as breeding and upkeeping Rhinos require astronomical expenses, which only the turbo rich wild game farmers and lodge masters are able to afford, and liberals vs hunters have argued about whether or not the actual legal horns put on auction will actually be cheaper than their black market counterparts. There's a lot of debate (slapfights) the past decade about how the legal price of horns vs their black markets are calculated, and both camps have been full of shit, so i personally have no idea who's opinion stand the most accurately.


RHINO HORNS CONFISCATED STOCKPILES:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wildlife-rhinos-safrica/south-africas-top-court-lifts-ban-on-domestic-sales-in-rhino-horn-idUSKBN1771VP

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16838028429001915.webp

Other DRAMATIC slapfights between camps involved flooding the market with confiscated horns. Even though many poachers fall through the cracks, National Park wardens and SADF members have in fact accumulated a metric shit load of confiscated rhino horns from poachers caught and jailed the past 15 years. Many hunters and naturalists have stated that the government should flood the market with these horns in order to devalue the illicit black market, and also hopefully prevent the poaching of rhinos to be lucrative anymore. Liberals disagree and slapfights ensue. Once again no one knows what the outcome will be.


https://www.helpingrhinos.org/news/394/south-africa-reclassify-wildlife-as-farm-animals/

A further dramatic event in our story was when the RSA government reclassified the legal status of WIld animals. "The South African government recently approved an amendment to its Animal Improvement Act (AIA). The AIA is responsible for governing livestock breeding in South Africa and the amendment re-categorized several endangered and iconic animals as farming stock. In other words, wild animals such as lion, cheetah, giraffe, rhino and zebra are among the 33 wild species now listed as ā€˜farm animalsā€™. " (from article)

Another nuclear bomb was unleashed because the parliament had pushed this Act amendment without consulting the public in 2019. Hippies went full :soycry::soymad::soycry::soymad: because among the things that the reclassifcation meant, was that wild game farmers could now artificially inseminate wild game like Rhinos. This was already something way against the perceived natural order of nature, and opponents believed this could open the animals to having be genetically manipulated by the Wild Game farmers, similar as to how buck Colour Variants had been a fad a decade earlier. They stated that the Rhinos would be at risk of genetic polution.


GOOD ARTICLE DEMONSTARTING THE R-SLURRED POLITICS OF SA:

I am now going plagiarize the shit out of the following article because it's fantastic, and because I know only like 1/100 of you dramatards will actually read it. Here are the important bits. I still recommend reading it, it's pretty good journ*lism for once. (=== quotes from the article ===)

https://undark.org/2021/12/08/is-trouble-ahead-for-south-africas-private-rhino-breeders/

Yet through all of these controversial debates and legislation about Rhino breeding, some rich farmers have been intensively farming Rhinos succesfully and increasing their populations on their farm. The farm of John Hume has 2000 White Rhinos in 20 000 hectares. Hume has not lost a rhino to poachers in almost five years, thanks to formidable security.

====="But the fate of Humeā€™s rhinos ā€” and South Africaā€™s unusual game privatization experiment ā€” hang in the balance. In December 2020, a government panel recommended phasing out intensive and captive rhino breeding in the country, as part of a broader set of policies for wildlife conservation. According to the panel and a subsequent government policy paper, captive breeding operations like the one owned by Hume are potentially harming the speciesā€™ future.===== (from article)

RACISM DRAMA!

====But the prospect of losing their herds has alarmed many private rhino owners and conservationists, who say the policy will make southern white rhinos more vulnerable to poaching. ā€œWe have rhino in well-protected zones,ā€ said Pelham Jones, chairman of the Private Rhino Owners Association, or PROA. Now, he added, ā€œthe government is recommending that these captive breeding operations, which have proven to be highly, highly successful, and are achieving the best breeding outcome one could hope for, are to be shut down.ā€ The group is considering all options, including a legal challenge that would potentially ensnare the process in years of legal wrangling.

At stake here are questions about how best to preserve a threatened species. The politics are fraught as well, and charged by South Africaā€™s racial tensions: Proponents of the new policy point out that the countryā€™s Black majority has often been excluded from the benefits of rebounding game populations. By PROAā€™s own estimates, there are between 150 and 180 private rhino owners in South Africa; nearly all of them are White. (from article)=====

With the decline on South Africa's prime National Parks like Kruger park, poachers have now targeted private ranches.

====Today, as state losses mount, poachers are increasingly targeting private reserves. Government data shows 15 percent of rhinos poached in 2019 were on private land. In the first six months of 2021, that spiked to 30 percent. Owners who can afford it invest heavily in security. Meanwhile, many small-scale rhino ranchers have sold out because of costs. At least so far, the scale of Humeā€™s operation ā€” and his deep pockets ā€” have fended off poachers. At Humeā€™s ā€œOps Center,ā€ 10 TV screens line one wall. Radars and thermal cameras monitor the property, covering the rhinosā€™ range and the public roads that cut past the ranch. The flat, grassy terrain is ideal for the motion-detecting radars, which cannot penetrate solid objects such trees or buildings. If an intruder gets over the electrified fence, concealed speakers blare warnings while a team rushes to intercept.

ā€œWe are always ready, and we can fly a chopper to the scene quickly if we need to,ā€ said Brandon Jones, a helicopter pilot and Humeā€™s head of security, with a handgun holstered to his hip. The teamā€™s arsenal includes assault rifles; the poachers are also heavily armed. Hume, who refers to the team as his ā€œprivate army,ā€ said security costs him $2 million per year. The investment seems to be working. While poachers killed 32 of Humeā€™s rhinos between 2007 and 2017, he says he has not lost an animal since. More of his rhinos have been killed by lighting strikes. ====(from article)

But opponents to private intensive breeding state the following:

"NSIDE THIS GATED FORTRESS, the number of rhinos on Humeā€™s ranch has swelled: Between 2008, when he started breeding at his current ranch, and September 2021, Humeā€™s rhinos had given birth to some 1,690 calves. But whether that growth is an unmitigated good for rhino conservation, or a liability for the future of the species, remains contested. Yako and other critics of captive breeding have raised concerns that the closely managed life on the ranch could give rise to domestication, a fate that historically has not occurred in any large African mammal, or render the rhino unsuitable for rewilding.=====

Opponents to private game farming are also concerned about genetic diversity:

====Yako and others have also expressed concerns about the genetic diversity of rhinos in captive breeding populations. Even in the wild, rhino genetics pose serious issues: A century ago, when population numbers were so low, the bottleneck reduced the genetic variability of the species. According to Petra Kretzschmar, a biologist and rhino expert at the Leibniz Institute for Zoo and Wildlife Research in Germany, this state of affairs made the species vulnerable to disease and fertility problems. Compounding the issue, rhinos tend to mate with their relatives. ā€œInbreeding is unfortunately a big threat to the white rhino population,ā€ Kretzschmar wrote in an email. ā€œIt is therefore very important to prevent rhinos from inbreeding.ā€===

But a lot of the anti private game farms arguments are racially and class motivated:

=== AT ISSUE ARE larger questions about the future of wildlife in South Africa, where populations of large, charismatic animals have rebounded. Many are in private hands: Today, according to the government report, there are 9,000 private game ranches in South Africa, comprising around 50 million acres. The growth of private game reserves has raised some concerns about equity. South Africa is the most unequal society in the world, according to the World Bank, and land ownership patterns remain skewed in favor of the White minority.

According to the government policy paper, many communities with historical ties to wildlife lands have been walled out of the present conservation arrangement. ā€œThe forceful removal of people from the land led to the current South African ā€˜Wildlife Model,ā€™ the report says, ā€œwhere the largest percentage of wildlife land is owned by the White minority and by the state, with few wildlife resources on community lands.ā€ Critics note that these conservation disputes are unfolding amid persistent government failures to enact land reforms. ā€œThe disparities in ownership in the wildlife industry somewhat reflects what we see in other sub-sectors of agriculture, where participation of Black farmers remains marginal,ā€ said Wandile Sihlobo, the chief economist at the Agricultural Business Chamber of South Africa and author of a recent book on land reform in the country.=====

What's not mentioned here is that the poor black populations of South Africa tend to eliminate the wild game they come into contact with due to hunger and financial interest. Much of this is due to poverty, but also because much of the South African black population doesn't view conservation of wild life as important. Mentioning this wall start your immediate cancelling in RSA society. In their defense a lot of liberal black peeps feel that after many dutch settlers in the 1800s had shot out much of RSA wildlife, now they want to keep black peeps out of their fair share of hunting. The conversation that preservation is the goal tends to turn sour and race based pretty quick when these complicated matters are ever introduced


Anyways that's all I got, GOOD DAY!

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EFFORTPOST That time when one of the most corrupt and comically evil banks, Credit Suisse, fricked over the Mozambique economy in 2016.

Greetings Dramatards! :marseyfluffy:

Today I wanna talk about Credit Suisse, a slimy bank filled with slimy Swiss bankers with an absurdly long history of corruption. If you know the stereotype of Swiss bankers taking Nazi gold/ gold stolen from slayed jews, then banks like Credit Suisse are the cause of it. Now I'm basically late to the party, but of particular note is that recently the bank Credit Suisse went full FUBAR after a bankrun, and the Swiss Federal Department of Finance, the Swiss National Bank and FINMA have asked Credit Suisse and UBS to enter into the merger agreement, to prevent the total collapse of the entire Swiss economy. An action which has been astronomically controversial and it's likely that in the coming years that Switzerland will endeavor to bring in a large scale Trust busting of this now banking supergiant.

Imagine my surprise when I realized that the recently tanked Credit Suisse is the exact SAME FRICKING bank which had brought ruination to Mozambique's economy only recently. I talked recently about the devastation which the Mozambique Civil War had had upon its people and economy, and it's truly a sense of unfairness that Mozambique had finally recovered only to have Credit Suisse causing them yet more enduring misery. Mozambique was one of the worldā€™s 10 fastest-growing economies for two decades. It was a prime target of donors and a destination for 10ā€“15 percent of total foreign direct investment (FDI) inflows into Sub-Saharan Africa back in 2013.


THE MOZAMBIQUE DEBT SCANDAL:

https://debtjustice.org.uk/blog/the-mozambique-debt-scandal-the-storm-before-the-storm

It took almost 5 years since the discovery of unapproved loans, but in 2022, Credit Suisse was fined Ā£147 million for its role in causing a debt crisis in Mozambique. What is this debt crisis? Lemme tell u.

Way back in 2013, Credit Suisse granted loans to a state-owned Tuna fishing company. Then loans to fund speed boats, then for docks and docking equipment, the idea was to fund and reinvigorate the dwindling Mozambique fishing economy. Many of the loans were subsequently sold on to other Speculators (which are very large financial firms which trade in debts and investments to make money on the interest.) Credit Suisse didn't tell these other Speculators that these were dogshit loans. None of the loans were agreed by the Mozambique parliament ā€“ as required under the Mozambique constitution. When they became public knowledge in 2016, it immediately caused a debt crisis in the country.

The sudden discovery of 2 Billion$ of previously unknown debt caused immediate devaluation of Mozambique's currency, and plunged the Metical crashing down, so that the price of imports and basic goods skyrocketed. The World Bank had stated that as a consequence of this secret Debt, 2 million mozambique peeps were put into poverty. "Mozambique campaigners estimate it has collectively cost the country $11 billion - $350 per person - and could cost a further $4 billion more. Between 2015 and 2019, public spending per person in Mozambique was cut in half."

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So what precisely happened? And why did the debt cause devaluation of the Metical?

https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/mozambiques-hidden-debts-turning-crisis-opportunity-reform

Around 2013, a corrupt group of Mozambique politicians had created 3 State-owned Enterprises, organizations which were publicaly controlled, and with these 3 shady mint new State Enterprises took on a series of debt totaling more than 2 Billion $, which was around 12% of Mozambique's GDP. Again, allegedly the loans was to fund and build docks, fishing ships and shipyards ect. The loans were supplied by Credit Suisse and other banks like VTB, and BNP Paribas. The loans were kept so secret that at the time, the 3 banks didn't know each other were also lending money illicitly to corrupt offcials, until Mozambique activists and journ*lists blew the lid in 2016.

The sudden awareness by literally everyone, that the country had taken on loans much much larger than their fledgling economy could reasonably expected to repay, cause instant uncertainty. The surprise was surprising to these dipshit risky banks as well, as all 3 of them had their subterfuge obfuscated from each other as well lmoa. "These loans breached the International Monetary Fund (IMF) program in place at the time, and the International Development Associationā€™s non-concessional borrowing policy, resulting in the outright suspension of budget support by both institutions and other development partners." What they are saying here is that the IMF would refuse to give out new loans which was desperately needed by the Mozambique gov for future development, after discovering the existence of at least 1 billion $ loans already within the national accounting books of Mozambique.

Additionally, these Hidden Debts, caused political turmoil and social unrest within Mozambique, as it demonstrated how easily just a few weak links in the Mozambique political structure could so very easily abuse their positions within the government to obtain illicit loans, bribes and tenders. Subsequently, Mozambiqueā€™s Attorney-General started proceedings against several Mozambican officials allegedly involved in contracting the loans, and the British financial supervisor pressed charges against the banks like Credit Suisse. This was truly disasterous for the poor Mozambique peeps.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16835359394038374.webp

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So why did these corrupt Mozambique Officials take on such vast loans?

These fake shell companies acted as funnels for syphoning off cash secretly from public funds. By taking on loans, they were syphoning off cash not directly from places where accountants or actuaries could notice discrepancies from annual or semester budgets or whatever, and then be instantly caught. Instead, they would fleece off of the loans, and then pay back back the loans secretly from the taxpayers budget. After all paying back a loan is more easy to disguise than explaining to the account wtf a luxury liner is doing on the annual budget sheet.

It's a cute idea, but the corrupt Officials flew too close to the sun, and took too much loans on simultaneously, from different banks, and in secret from each other. So when the lid was prized off of the corruption, and sunlight shone on the rat's nest - both Credit Suisse and the public discovered to their horror that these illicit mega loans had ballooned to over 2 billion $, a massive amount to poor Mozambique.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16835359395987692.webp

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-04/the-legacy-of-credit-suisse-s-mozambique-loan#xj4y7vzkg

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So why did the Bankers like Credit Suisse give out such incredibly risky loans?

It should be noted that the scumfricks in Credit Suisse KNEW about the corruption of the Mozambique Officials they were loaning money for, but the lucrative opportunity of reaping in interest rates behind the back of the Mozambique government like a tapeworm was too much to ignore for the avarice of the Credit Suisse employees in charge for this disaster. What's even more remarkable is that Credit Suisse dropped some of its own regulations to deal with these corrupt Mozambique Officials.

"In 2017 an independent audit revealed that at least $700 million of the $2 billion of loans was unaccounted for. The audit further revealed that Credit Suisse initially said the loans needed to be approved by the Bank of Mozambique, checked by the Mozambique Administrative Court and reported to the IMF. This would have meant far greater scrutiny of the loans, and it is likely they would never have been agreed. However, Credit Suisse dropped this requirement, allowing the loans to be agreed without scrutiny."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16835359400269983.webp


WHY DOESN'T MOZAMBIQUE JUST GIVE BACK THE MONEY?

Because so much of the Loans from Banks like Credit Suisse have been stolen, bribed or already frauded via these Mozambique Shell State Enterprises, that only part of the fricking 2 Billion sumtotal loans remain. Mozambique can't just pull out 250 million $ out of its butt. Thus they are stuck with a massive national loan. And none of the objectives of these loans, namely constructing new shipyards and docks, investing in the Tuna fishing industry, have been met. Thus there's no manner in which they may obtain the shortfall naturally in their current economy, and there will be no future mystical Tuna industry to tax to pay back this shit.

Additionally the currency devaluation death spiral caused in 2016, further inhibited their capacity to just swallow the bitter pill and negate these vast loans, with their Metical weakening against the Dollar as confidence in the Mozambique Metical fell and fell.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16835359398086352.webp


AFTERMATH:

It was a hideous scandal in the banking world, and International, UK and USA regulators would spring into action the fine Credit Suisse out the butt.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16835359402380989.webp

Lol, notice that UK Bank would spend only through private humanitarian NGOs, and would circumvent the corrupt Mozambique Government from hereon.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/19/credit-suisse-fined-350m-over-mozambique-tuna-bonds-loan-scandal

Of the famous 2 Billion $ loaned, Credit Suisse was responsible for 1.3 Billion, so of the 3 banks loaning illicitly, these pondscum were burned by their greed and corruption the most badly.

The FCA said Credit Suisse employees took steps to deliberately conceal the kickbacks, while the bank itself failed to properly manage the risk of financial crime within its emerging markets business, despite having ā€œsufficient informationā€ to appreciate the likelihood of bribery related to the government projects. ā€œCredit Suisse was aware Mozambique was a jurisdiction where the risk of corruption of government officials was high and that the projects were not subject to public scrutiny or formal procurement processes,ā€ the FCA said. ā€œTime and again there was insufficient challenge within Credit Suisse, or scrutiny and inquiry in the face of important risk factors and warnings,ā€ the regulator added.

Credit Suisse will pay $275m to US regulators and Ā£147m to the FCA to settle the case. UK regulators said the figure would have been higher had the lender not agreed to forgive $200m worth of debt owed to the bank by Mozambique. ā€œThe FCAā€™s fine reflects the impact of these tainted transactions which included a debt crisis and economic harm for the people of Mozambique,ā€ the FCAā€™s executive director of enforcement and market oversight, Mark Steward, said.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683535940390629.webp

https://www.wsj.com/articles/credit-suisse-to-pay-475-million-admits-defrauding-investors-to-settle-mozambique-charges-11634679537


Mozambique is screwed:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-02-09-credit-suisse-an-enabler-of-mega-looting-in-mozambique/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16835359405808108.webp

Mozambique is in no position to pay back the loans to Credit Suisse and VTB. It has already defaulted on part of the $2.2-billion in loans related to the tuna fishing project. A coalition of 20 civil society groups, the Mozambique Budget Monitoring Forum (FMO), has sought to declare the secret loans illegal. Despite the FMO winning a case in Mozambiqueā€™s Constitutional Court to have the Ematum loan declared illegal, Mozambiqueā€™s government is still repaying the loan.

Adriano Nuvunga, coordinator of the forum, said in a statement: ā€˜The people of Mozambique had no say over, and no benefit from the loans, and should not have to repay one cent.ā€ Moreover, in the past two years, the country has been ravaged by two cyclones and an insurgency in the north of the country which has deepened poverty and suffering. More than 200,000 Mozambicans have been displaced by the conflict and 700,000 Mozambicans are in need of humanitarian assistance. In general, 70% of Mozambicans live in poverty and it is ranked 181 out of 189 nations on the UNā€™s Human Development Index.

Mozambicans desperately need aid, and unlike in previous years, the IMF is encouraging social spending in the face of Covid-19. However, Mozambiqueā€™s debt makes this almost impossible as austerity measures have been put in place in the country in order to finance its large debts. Mozambicans are the victims of unscrupulous politicians and predatory banks. (From the Daily Maverick Article)


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:marseyrevolution: Support the writers! :marseyrevolution:

Remember: The writers aren't to blame here. The studios are, for refusing to pay them a fair wage for their works and trying to AI-ify art. Never back down, never give in!

This thread is very very long and hits every possible argument related to the strike, from unions, communism, capitalism to AI, internet regulations and horse carriages. You can read it and stop here frankly.

If your business model is only sustainable by not paying labor, you have an immoral and unjust business model.

whatā€™s ironic is that itā€™s not even sustainable with that, lol.

:#marseyhesright:

I fully support the writers. But I am also sad for how much this will delay the final season of Handmaids.

I hope the show will get canceled just to see redditors seethe :marseygilead: :marseygravedance:

Streaming services overwhelmingly screw their writers out of as much money as possible. And itā€™s not to give us their services at a bargain cost. Large mega corporations are never satisfied with stable profits. Everything has to be a bigger record profit than last year, or they take it out on their staff.

This is the source of basically every problem in America. I can't stand this. And we actually made it illegal to not do this.

We are no longer citizens, we are consumers. At the expense of our planet, our own health, or the well-being of others, we must consume. Infinite, exponential growth with no sign of stopping.

And yet they find endless number of excuses when you tell them to just stop consooming :marseydisney:

Firm reminder that in 2021, David Zaslav [Warner] earned 212.7 246 million dollars.

"earned"

(ļ¾‰ļ¾Ÿ0ļ¾Ÿ)ļ¾‰

Please all replace "earned" with "got paid". He did not earn that. He stole the surplus from the workers that generate the profit.

Yes, that's how businesses work :marseycapitalistmanlet:

Nobody earns hundreds of millions of dollars. We need to stop speaking about executive pay as something they earned. The workers earned that, not him.

By this logic, the workers are responsible for the failures of the company too, but no one is consistent. You canā€™t have it both ways and expect to be taken seriously.

šŸ„¾ Your boot, sir

Reeeeeeeeeeeeee! Let me circlejerk in peace!! :soyjaktantrum:

Are there really legitimate voices that say "I'm with the multi-billion dollar studios on this one, the little guys should just get back to work and accept that you don't always get paid"?

It's usually the peeps who admire and idolize billionaires. And it's partially how the studios spin their argument. "Oh, you don't like these episodes of your favorite show? Blame the greedy writers who wouldn't work and make it better"

I'm sure they have plenty of examples of that happening :marseyeyeroll:

Anybody who claims to love movies and doesn't support this strike is a schmuck.

Or an AI techbro

:#marseyelonpaypig:


:marseyindignant: Frick the writers, they suck! :marseyindignant:

Why? The common denominator lately among disappointing movies and tv shows is crap writing, so why are we supposed to feel bad for the crap writers behind crap writing getting crap pay? Honestly I donā€™t think theyā€™re going to be happy with the reckoning coming their way that they brought on themselves. I hope this strike cleans house frankly.

A huge portion of crap writing is the studios dictating content to writers. I canā€™t wait for shows written entirely by marketing focus groups

Might just as well, how much worse can the scripts even get at this point?

Not recently. Most TV shows and movies are now just liberal talking points jammed into unfunny, millenial speak dialogue. An AI will have no problem replicating if not completely improving on it.

That could actually be the result of the working conditions they're striking about. If only affluent LA natives in their 20s can afford to be writers, that's what you'll get.

Oh yes, I'm sure the union has nothing to do with why only certain people can become writers.

I'm fed up of people feeling entitled to a pay rise tied with inflation. All it does it further fuel inflation.

Some are thinking of the wider context here...

American Tv stars who make LITERALLY 10x the minimum wage: "yeah we're going on strike to get better wages"

American workers who earn so little they can't afford rent: "yeah I picked up a second minimum wage job. They don't give me any lunch breaks, which is against the law, but that's pretty commonplace and there's nothing I can do about it."

Gjekgkekgkrkkgkf. GIVE ME STRONGER UNIONS!!!!!

...only to end up sperging out :marseysmugautist:

I don't know what I'm going to do without another Adam Sandler or The Rock movie if any are delayed this year.

This started a small slapfight.

No wonder Netflix just decided to invest $2 billion in new Korean content - it allows them to keep putting out new content during a WGA strike

Heck yea. Korean entertainment is doing it better anyway

The koreaboos have entered the chat :marseyfemboy:

With the writers on strike, who will write Sing 3, Toy Story 5, Marvel Movie #2746, or Spiderman 16? šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Whoever wrote Velma should not be compensated.


:marppyenraged: The AI revolution is here :marppyenraged:

Are you guys not shellshocked by how quickly ai has become an issue? Prepandemic it wasnā€™t even thought about by most. Now strikes are happening because of it. We are in the future and itā€™s a dystopian one

Before the pandemic, when you would tell some commie that the lazy entitled employees will get replaced by robots they would act all smug that the technology isn't there yet. Now they tremble in fear :marseysmug2:

These are the death throes of creative writers, unfortunately. A.I. will reduce total jobs to 1/5 of their former amount...

"creative"

Lmao and this exemplifies why those saying AI scripts will be the new wave are wrong. Bots canā€™t detect context.

Neither can redditors :marseysmug:

Makes sense. Whereas other studios want to use AI as a last resort, Netflix is probably salivating at the thought of Skynet writing Bridgerton season 12. Frick Netflix, and WGA solidarity forever!

This. Sonic Prime feels so by-the-book for Sonic media that it fricking hurts, despite its wild-on-paper premise. And that's just something NETFLIX ONLY DISTRIBUTES. Internal wise? Get ready for the mass imitation of GDT Pinocchio by Skynet. :/

Why do redditors make everything they disagree with sound as cool as possible? Who wouldn't want to see Skynet's interpretation of Pinocchio?

Looking forward to all the new original screenplays written by ai

Then the comments prove how nothing will change.

ChatGPT and Adobe priming up their AI servers for an influx of prompts to write scripts...

I was watching Independence Day and Independence Day: Resurgence and the quality of dialog and acting is night and day difference. Everything in the first was so natural and authentic while everything in the second looked like it was written by an AI trying too hard.

I bet AI couldā€™ve written a better sequel lmao


Chat GPT will write TV and movies.


Great. Now all TV and movies are going to be written by chat GPT for the next few months.

How will we be able to tell?


:soycry: Nooo! My Marvelrino movies!! :soycry:

So is Marvel studios, honestly. One might say the strike is the last nail in the coffin of comic book movies... and maybe the last stake in Blade's chest. Some motherlovers are always trying to ice skate uphill

this hyperbole is wild. marvel movies are still very profitable for marvel and youā€™re greatly over exaggerating that marvel studios is dead lmao. they literally had a 12 year streak of churning out hit after hit, marvel is not going to die within our generation


Marvel Studios just cannot catch a break recently, can they? This strike could really compound their recent problems with reception, and that could lead to really big problems. Better to delay some stuff than release more Quantumanias or worse imo, and that includes Blade if it's not up to snuff right now.

Marvel movies have mainly been bad to mediocre , so nothing will change.


there has been 2 marvel movies this year I doubt audiences are that fatigued tbh


Hyper-specific question but does this affect the James Gunn DC reboot? If so is the DC going on hold after Joker2?

Frick your capeshit movies! What about MY capeshit movies! :soyjakhipster:

As both writer and director, good to know that James Gunn is backing the WGAā€™s strike and ceasing work on Superman Legacy.

:#marseysociety2:


:marseynouautism: The culture war coliseum :marseynouautism:

It's been funny seeing anti-SJW media channels stump for him because he killed "woke Batgirl."

With bonus Snyder-verse drama! :marseysociety:

Jesus. Do they not remember the absolute god awful cesspool that was the last strike? We got racist, monkey looking robots in transformers saying "we don't like to read too much".

Is this true? :marseyxd:

Well last time this happened, the domino effect led to Trump being elected. I'm terrified to see the intended consequences this time

If Daddy will be elected a second time, do you guys think it will become it's own conspiracy theory?

Aren't these the people who write all the woke stuff?


:marseybib: Further proof that redditors are mentally children :marseybib:

Apparently, this strike happened because Netflix was being full of sh!t.

Mama would be proud of this manchild for not swearing on the internet :marseynerd:

This is only from Jeff Sneider, but according to him, this is happening all because Netflix was an undiplomatic chucklefā€”k. If so, then I hope that Netflix gets banned from this yearā€™s Oscar ceremony for even allowing to let this happen.

Not only is this redditor using childish insults like chuckefrick, he's also censoring them :marseyhammersnoo:

darnit cant people just get along and pay appropriate wages and be happy šŸ˜­

Why can't everyone get along like in my children cartoons :marseysoycry:

Jesus frick at some point I'd realize I won't be alive long enough to spend all that so why not give it back and let it trickle down... ...oh cuz, like dragons, humans are horrible creatures that do nothing but sit on their hoard of gold.


:marseydisney: One brave Disney shill single-handedly tries to stop the AI menace :marseydisney:

I'm putting this last because it's long. Slight context, reddit user Block-Busted is a perpetually online /r/boxoffice user that comments on anything Disney related and defends it to the death: Marvel movies are always good and profitable (he kinda had to admit the latest movies suck tho, but he tries to downplay this), Disney movies haven't lost their magic, bad talks other animation companies, you get the gist. I had him tagged as 'Disney shill' for awhile and I genuinely hope he's actually getting paid for all the effort. All the comments in this section were meant to go into the AI revolution category until I realized that he obsessively responded to every single AI comment in the boxoffice thread. Here is his effort documented (any comment that doesn't have a link attached is his):

AI about to take the jobs of Hollywood writers šŸ˜Ž Gonna be interesting to see Hollywood be the first to feel the wrath of AI

I've said this to other posters several times, but AI scripts are going to get into all sorts of legal controversies that studios might not want to face, especially when the strike is happening, not to mention that AI scripts are not all that good to begin with.


Or studios will use AIā€¦ technology is there. Might as well use it

Again, AI scripts are going to get into all sorts of legal controversies that studios might not want to face, especially when the strike is happening, not to mention that AI scripts are not all that good to begin with.


Right during the peak of the hype cycle of ChatGPT. If the last strike led to a ton of shitty reality shows, are we in for a deluge of AI generated scripts?

Actually, by the sound of it, AIs are one of the reasons why Writers Guild were trying to be on strike, not to mention that, while this is only for artworks for now, AI-generated materials are not protected by copyright laws the last time Iā€™ve heard.

That would still be a can of worms for legal issues since they would keep have to use AI for that. And again, considering that AIs are some of the reasons why this strike was building up in the first place, using AI to write scripts during the Writers Strike might end up becoming a massive PR nightmare for that studio.

Not to mention that AIs are some of the reasons why this strike was building up in the first place.

That might actually be why studios might be rather less willing to rely on AI because if they do that, they would end up validating Writers Guild's argument and cause their reputation to plummet.

But here's the thing. You're going to need actual thinking AIs to fully avoid copyright issues and we have no idea when they're even going to become a feasible idea, not to mention that you still need human writers to polish whatever AI wrote, so studios would still need proper writers if they don't want so many legal troubles happening to their faces, not to mentiont that current AI scripts tend to be utter messes, especially if they're longer.

The problem with that idea is that not only AI scripts are not protected by copyright laws, which could end up putting studios into endless legal headaches, but most of those scripts are... not all that good, meaning that using AI to write scripts might not worth endless legal troubles.

Again, they still need some human writers to make those AI scripts unique enough to avoid copyright issues, which is probably not possible as of now.

But the thing is, you still need human writers to even attempt that and doing that without a WGA writer in this time period could result in a massive PR nightmare that they might not want to face.

I've said this to another poster, but by the sound of it, AIs are one of the reasons why Writers Guild were trying to be on strike, not to mention that, while this is only for artworks for now, AI-generated materials are not protected by copyright laws the last time Iā€™ve heard.

Again, considering that AIs are some of the reasons why this strike was building up in the first place, using AI to write scripts during the Writers Strike might end up becoming a massive PR nightmare for that studio.

I'm not sure if that argument is worth the trouble considering that with reality shows, they still come up with their own ideas to an extent while such argument is going to be a lot harder to make it work with AI scripts.

Doubtful. If AI-generated scripts become norm, studios could lose their audience exponentially due to how awful those scripts can get. I mean, they start out okay, but they basically turn into Friedberg/Seltzer travesties as they progress.


A.I. is coming for a lot of the easier scriptsā€¦ only a matter of time.

Again, the thing about that is that you still need human writers if you're hoping to avoid copyright issues, not to mention that most AI scripts are... not that good.

This reeks of ignorance since that's going to be a lot harder to do with longer scripts, not to mention that we don't even know if copyright laws would even allow that to happen for scripts. Again, I'm not sure if studios are going to risk that while this is happening. Also, for your earlier point, there are good scripts that ended up getting ruined by poor directings or studio meddlings.

But doing that during Writers Guild Strike would result in a lot of PR nightmare since that would look like studios are shooting writers in their backs. And again, you're still going to need human writers to polish those scripts if they even want a remote chance of avoiding legal troubles.


I hope ChatGPT writes some real classic Rick and Morty episodes this year. No need to get all introspective, robot; just give me those good old Rick and Morty adventures.

That would result in all sorts of issues like script itself being abysmal, legal headaches, and so on.


Hey GptChat, Bing, etcā€¦ Write me a script for a Superman movie staring Superman and he does super stuff to super evil aliens that look like humans. Also, incorporate Supermanā€™s weakness to kryptonite and his motherā€™s name Martha. This script needs to produce a movie that makes $1 billion. Print.

If studios actually do something like that, they might end up facing all sorts of issues like script itself being abysmal, legal headaches, and so on.


And nowā€¦ we wait. Will the studios take the billions they have an automate the writing process? Or perhaps itā€™s still a bit too early to get rid of them yet?

We need to have thinking AIs to even make that become a possible idea.


chatgpt šŸ“ˆšŸ“ˆ

Actually, by the sound of it, AIs are some of the reasons why this strike was building up AND AI-generated works are apparently not protected by copyright laws. As far as Iā€™m aware, this is mostly for artworks, but who knows if that gets extended to others as well.


To shake things up for a little bit, he's also getting triggered by the idea of streaming using foreign writers.

This can lead to a bigger boom of foreign shows on Netflix

Not really. There are no shortage of cultural barriers that they might end up facing.


I wonder if this will create a massive opportunity for foreign content. Never going to have a better chance for Anime and Kdramas to go mainstream.

Doubtful. Anime and K-dramas are still going to have some cultural barriers that they need to overcome.

But those becoming fully mainstream is another matter. Keep in mind, at least reality shows didn't have so much cultural barriers involved.

Well, there's another thing with anime - some of them are downright cringeworthy (trust me, they can even make Eternals and Quantumania look like legit masterpieces) and could end up tarnishing anime's reputation in general.

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EFFORTPOST Botswana's Elephant Overpopulation and Hunting Drama.

Greetings Dramatards :marseywave2:

Today I wanna talk about Elephants. Specifically those of Botswana. Botswana has been the home of the largest concentration of Elephant herds on earth for a several decades. As recently as 2020, they were recorded as having 130 000 elephants, half of all elephants in the entirety of the African continent is to be found in Botswana. In fact they literally have way too many elephants, and have suffered an overpopulation problem for the past decade.

https://ourworldindata.org/elephant-populations

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683032783740042.webp

One of Botswana's conservation initiatives involved repatriating amounts of their Elephants to their neighbouring country of Angola, whom is much poorer and has suffered great environmental destruction because of their Civil War which had ended as recently as 2002. Like Mozambique's cataclysmic Civil War, Angola was also devastated by violent conflict between communist and capitalist factions vying for power during the Cold War, and ended up destroying their Portuguese colonial infrastructures, and debilitating much of their natural habitats. Many Angolans suffered the same fate as that of their Mozambique peers, in that famine raged the country during war, and farmers could not work their lands. People desperately turned to hunting the wildlife for food just to survive, and that had included Elephants. The violence also quite literally "pushed" the frightened animals to free and migrate South to Botswana away from human activity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

Anyways, Angola used to be one of the most populous natural habitats for Elephants in Africa, but colonial overhunting by the Portuguese trophy hunters, and the genuinely apocalyptic hellstorm of the Angolan Civil War, which was intertwined with the Congo Civil War, meant that the Elephant habitats were just as ravaged and reduced as the poor people of Angola. Botswana and Angolan leaders have gotten well together these past 20 years, and have gone to lengths to improve their conservation efforts together against Chinese Elephant poaching, for for environmental concerns, and to boost Tourism in both countries.

The big problem is that catching, sedating, transporting and releasing just a single elephant takes a shitload of time, money, fuel, expertise and effort. And compared to South Africa, where hunters, game reserve owners, and National Park wardens can just funnel together a herd of blesboks into a tram or truck, the act of trying to move an elephant is much more challenging and dangerous. A 5 ton Elephant bull doesn't exactly take kindly to being approached by humanoids.

Botswana has also opened their border fences with Angola, so that the Elephant herds might migrate naturally from Bots to Angola by their own volition, and the previously scared animals hopefully will return.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683032783583922.webp

\https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world/africa/2020-11-04-botswana-elephants-are-moving-to-angola/


WILDLIFE CORRIDORS:

Anyways, I'm mentioning these events to make dramatards understand that Botswana takes conservation seriously, and that they had taken steps to uphold habitat conservation as much as their small but growing economy might allow. Their main objective up until now had been to encourage and enable migration away from Botswana and towards its neighbours, mainly Angola and Zambia, Zimbabwe, but that tactic has been sub-optimal. The elephants are migrating way too slowly, and physically corralling Elephants is not a tactic that has ever worked. Also again using vets to sedate and manually transport Elephants via large trucks is way too slow and expensive to do thousands of times to make a dent in the vast 130 000 strong Bots elephant population.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683032783137836.webp

Conservationists have elected to create "Wildlife Corridors" which are unfenced open highways for wild game to move between nations like Bots and Angola. But, there's also other problems, like minefields still unmoved since the end of the Angolan Civil war. And elephants seem to have an uncanny ability to know not to cross danger zones. Conservationists believe some elephant hers can still remember when members of the herd got wounded crossing the minefields even 20 years later, and refuse to move across certain landscapes between Angola and Botswana, even after Angolans had removed the mines on that specific zones.

https://www.voanews.com/a/africa_botswana-repatriate-elephants-angola-reduce-overpopulation/6198901.html


ELEPHANT PESTELENCE:

Long story short, the depopulation initiatives by conservationists are working way too slow, and Elephants in the meantime have caused havoc on the Botswana natural environment. Botswana's strong conservation efforts have been TOO successful.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0006320793900578

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16830327829496589.webp

If you guys know anything about Elephants, you'll know they are pretty naughty creatures, and can throw humanlike temper tantrums while under duress. Elephants can end up deforesting entire localities when they crush trees, shrubs, and bushes into matchwood. 6 ton fully grown Elephant bulls can bulldoze all but the most largest and ancient Marula trees. Elephants often scratch themselves against trees just like horses and cows, but as creatures 10 times the weight of horses, they end up destroying the vegetation in the process. Elephants are a part of the Savanna and highlands of the African balanced habitat. And environmentalists have noted that Elephants help keep regions balanced by stopping overgrowth of alien trees, and keeping forrests in check, while also allowing fallen trees to be digested by other herbivores, ect. But when there's an overpopulation, then this naturally occurring destructive force of Elephants can end up destabilizing the environment, and outright dessertification can take place.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/1708/elephant-damage-to-vegetation-in-botswana


https://www.jstor.org/stable/26393296

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16830327828077285.webp

Elephants also can cause harm to human infrastructure, destroy Botswana farm crops, and even kill humans when under stress. As the Jstor research article denotes, Elephants will come and eat human cross, as it's easier to obtain food, while trampling the rest into dust. Elephants are too powerful to be kept out of human farmlands via fencing. And the overpopulation of Elephants, as well as the expansion of people of Botswana have made these occurences more and more common.


PREZ IAN KHAMA BANS ELEPHANT HUNTING:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Khama#cite_note-44

So that brings us to the actual drama. In 2014 Ian Khama won his second term for the Botswana presidency. He was the son of the famous Seretse Khama whom had spearheaded the freedom movement in Botswana, and had become its 1st President way back in 1966. Ian Khama, his son, would carry on his legacy by winning two terms from 2009 - 2018. Ian Khama would place a ban on Elephant hunting in 2014, and had widely opposed trophy hunting his entire career; he was a staunch conservationist, ect.

With these good intentions, Ian Khama, caused the Botswana elephant populations to not just recover, but explode in overpopulation depending on the region. Many Bots peeps supported this, and felt white hunters, and trophy hunter aught to GTFO from further harming their environment.

Elephant hunting or culling would remain a controversial political matter in Botswana politics, with certain politicians wanting to reinstate trophy hunting to pull in money from fat rich yanks, while other Bots politicians, whom were "Green Party" equivalents went full vegan and said NOOOOO.

Of course, as Elephants just kept breeding, the problem of overpopulated herds encroaching upon human settlements began to be a political dispute between factions. With certain liberal Botswana people saying that Bots doen't have an overpopulation problem, and instead that elephants were being poached left and right. Here is a liberal magazine called the conversation, and drama in the comments!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683032782615058.webp

https://theconversation.com/botswana-has-an-elephant-poaching-problem-not-an-overpopulation-problem-119366

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1683032782394928.webp

Basically the political slapfight here is a microcosm reflection of Botswana politics against hunting, especially trophy hunting. The libtards deny that overpopulation doesn't real and supports Ian Khamas memorandum against hunting Elephants. The liberals do have a point in that Trophy hunting can reduce the genetic strength of a herd, since trophy hunters tend to keep going insustainably only hunting the largest horns or tusks or hooves of an animal. And thus unintentionally causing the genetic median strength of a herd or wild game population to fall. So that a generation later the median tusk size of an Elephant herd had been reduced drastically, since all the biggest tusks had been weeded, out thus causing artificial natural selection, but making the animal adapted worse to its environment.

In RSA game ranched go to extreme lengths to ensure that the genetic strength of antelope/buck herds are upkept, so that not all of the largest horned bucks are all eliminated from a herd. Game ranch owners will even trade male bucks to ensure genetic diversity in separate herds are high. There are protocals and hunting organizations regulating the health of all RSA game ect. But this genetic regulation only works in closed camps, and with animals you can catch. With the ever untamable Elephant, you cant keep the frickers locked up, and they weave in and out of specific locations at will. Thus you cant ensure their genetics are kept strong, and liberals fear that Rich fat burgers who trophy hunt specifically the largest tusked elephants wills have long term survival effects upon the heneral Elephant populations.

Of course, the local populations of Botswana have been caught culling or shooting elephants destroying their crops in secret, and the Bots Government have misattributed much of these local culling as poaching. As more and more local Bots residents complain to their local leaders, the controversial issue kept getting back to the forefront, and the very Bots locals now desperately wanted culling of Elephants to be reintroduced legally, and Ian Khama's Hunting Ban memorandum to be lifted. Ian Khama remained stubborn up until the end of his presidency in 2018. The liberals wanted to champion the Migration Corridors approach, and the non-libtards wanted to reintroduce necessary culling to stop the now continiously growing threat of overpopulated elephants destroying commercial and living crops!


BOTSWANA LIFTS HUNTING BAN:

Finally Ian Khama retires, being already over 60 in 2018. The very next year, his successor prez Mokgweetsi, immediately overturns the hunting ban, with a few caveats of course to placate both sides of this controversial issue. At 1st only old Bulls of over 35 years were allowed to be hunted, meaning after they are pass their prime and had already mated and transferred their genetic values to the next generation, and thus culling them would not seriously harm the genetic strength of the Bots general herds.

There was much bitching and slapfighting of every faction involved :slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight:

Other caveats involved that culled Elephants by foreign trophy hunters were to give their carcass to the locals for food, but the hunter may keep the horns and shit. Vegans, libs and people who hated hunting in general, were never satisfied by these measures, but then again they lived in enclosed suburbs, were stupid foreigners, and weren't the dirt poor Botswana locals whom had their livelyhood destroyed overnight, by an elephant eating all their crops, and which 6 tones of muscle couldn't be chased away so easily. Or one of the 40 individuals trampled to death yearly since 2012.

https://www.reuters.com/article/botswana-elephants/botswana-auctions-permits-to-hunt-elephants-to-ease-human-wildlife-conflict-idUSL8N2A72I9

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16830327821735137.webp

Yeah that's right ,for the cheap price of 18 000$, fat yanks could come and chase elies on their lard scooters.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/2/8/botswana-auctions-elephant-hunting-licenses-after-lifting-ban

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16830327819637418.webp

In 2020 Bots would sell packages to hunting companies, so that they could get foreign hunters from Europe and burgerland Basically average mortals will never afford this, even middle class yanks cheaply hunting in RSA are completely locked out of these milionare class hunts.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48374880


AFTERMATH:

Anyways, that's where we are today, on the ground level most Bots peeps know that there are too many Elephants encroaching on farmlands today, and desperately need to be culled for safety, and saving of human infratsructure, as well as maintaining balance on the natural environment as a resource for tourism. The hunting still remains controversial.

Prez Mokgweetsi keeps the Elephant hunting permits mega expensive so that he can sell for profit for his country to foreigners, which is a good income for the vibrant, but not super rich Botswana nation. This however pisses off many Bots peeps, as they are excluded from these exorbitant prices. Libs, Vegans and Ian Khama supporters hate and oppose the lifting of the Hunting ban, and continuously screetch on whatever is Bots social media whenever a yank Elephant hunter poses in a trophy picture.

Black Botswana peeps living next to Elephants hate them, and dont like vegan libtards, and are for culling of elephants. Other factions like wardens whom oppose poaching also are split on what to do, as when Chinese poachers kill elephants for their horns, they sometimes use machine guns and other gruesome methods like fricking rocked propelled grenades to kill the animals, as only the Ivory is what they want, and they wanna kill the animal quickly and GTFO before Botswana border gaurds come and literally kill the Chinese or mercenary poachers. These violent poaching causes herds to scatter in fright, and invade human settlements and cause harm in fright and stress. This is in contrast to hunters whom use single shot rifles to kill Elephants instantly through the brain, sometimes even with sound dampening high caliber rifles, which doesn't frighten of herds.


Anyways, that's all I have, GOOD DAY! :marseybeanadorable:

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EFFORTPOST That time when Mozambique Commies burned down their Surveyor General's and Title Deed's Offices.

Greetings Dramatards, apparently we don't have many Southern African Marseys - this is problematic and 3rd World phobic. If someone can create a shitty marsey for any of the Southern african marseys, I'll pay 1k marsey bux.

Today I wanna talk about an event which I don't know qualifies for this site, but which I thought was pretty darn dramatic with its batshit insane consequences. I'm talking about that time when Mozambique socialists burned down the title deed's office so in order to end disproportionate ownership between white settlers and the indigenous populations. I've tried very hard to obtain online sources for this, but this is the type of specialist knowledge where you need to be in the industry to even be aware of the existence of such Buildings, especially from the eyes of laymen civilians. And because the Mozambique residents all write and speak Portuguese, I have no idea how to fricking find historical records to prove what I'm talking about isn't complete bullshit. I only know these events are truth because I have spoken to both Afrikaner and Porra surveyors whom had since moved from Mozambique, as well as indigenous people from Mozambique whom work in RSA, then go back to their families during holidays to give money back to their villages which confirm these events are actual facts, and not just urban legends.

You see, my vocation is a Land Surveyor, and I work with many people whom maintain what is known as the national Cadaster of the country, like lawyers, Town Planners, architects and other Surveyors. A Cadaster is a word used to describe the sumtotal record of all land ownership in a country - it's a complex registry which denotes all land parcels and their boundaries. Every developed nation on earth has a Cadaster, in which they basically determine whom owns what, be it Canada, America, ect. Every time a land parcel or farm is divided or combined or changes ownership through sale, then the Cadaster is updated, along with the associated Title Deed which proves ownership of that specific land parcel. It's complicated but what matters to dramatards is that these two offices - the Surveyor General's Office and the Title Deed's Office work in tandem tirelessly to ensure that land and home ownership records are kept updated continuously so that there can never ever be confusion as to what exact centimeter of earth belongs to whom. Some countries marry these two organizations and some have separate things, but they all perform the same function of recording land ownership. And there's pretty good incentives to keep these records running as we know that land can be very valuable or expensive, especially if say oil gets discovered beneath some burger's scrapland in Texas, suddenly whom owns precisely what is not just a matter of thousands of $ but billions of $.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambican_War_of_Independence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambican_Civil_War

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/energy-government-and-defense-magazines/mozambique-independence-and-dirty-war

To add some background context, we need to talk about how Mozambique obtained independdence. Because it was a shitshow.

Basically Mozambique had been a Colony of Portugal for 400 years, but post WW2 with the total devastation of Europe, even nations not directly involved with WW2 suffered tremendous economic heck as basically all of their pre-war trade partners were levelled to the ground, and the inter-war period saw an obvious sharp decline in international trading. For the smaller and poorer European states like Portugal this basically dried them out, and they did not have the capacity to maintain their overseas colonies as they once did anymore. Additionally, the Western world would begin to drastically liberalize their societies and taste for colonial rule declined, just as africans began to become drastically more educated and an awareness of freedom began to develop. Additionally the Cold War was in full swing and the Soviet Union intended to exploit every single fracture within the west they could - and supporting African colonial states politically and with material was an inevatable occurrence.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16829371326240404.webp

By 1964 many of the Mozambique indigenous people were fed up with the unfair treatment they received under Portuguese rule, and that Portugal exploited Mozambique resources not for the benefit of the inhabitants but the wellfare of Portugal itself. It would continue from September 25, 1964, and ended with a ceasefire on September 8, 1974, resulting in a negotiated independence in 1975. But it needs to be understood that the war for Mozambique began in Angola, all the way back in 1961 - when communist Cubans and Soviets armed the Angolans with weaponry and training, so that they might spread to all of Southern Africa and overthrow the Colonial White governments there and instate Soviet friendly Socialist governments on the tip of Africa. Angola was also a colony of Portugal incidentally, and when Mozambique locals saw their peers having a violent atrocity rich war against the Portuguese army there, they also became inspired to overthrow the Portuguese gov in Mozambique, especially after Cubans and Angolan veterans crossed Southern Africa to form guerilla groups on the Eastern Coasts.

At this point in time, Namibia was called Suid-Wes Afrika, Zimbabwe was called Rhodesia, and the Republic of South Africa was known as the Union of South Africa, and all 3 of them were under white minority rule from anglos and afrikaners. They were also hard right wing governments whom hated Socialism, and to see these communist movements all over Southern Africa spring up like wildfires was, both from natural grassroots movements by the locals as well as instigated by Soviet/Cuban instigators were cause of peerless alarm, for the Hard Right governments there. At this point in time Portugal was poor as dirt, and could not maintain a multifront series of wars for all its colonies the way France did post 1960. The South Africans and Rhodesians didn't want a black majority governments to successfully spring up right next to their borders, and thus aided Portugal materially and financially throughout the war.

Throughout this shitshow our Burgeland friends were also under deep controversy as to whom to support. In USA the mass equalization of black peeps there meant a rapid change in foreign policy with regards to their Colonial allies like Frogland and Britain. At the same time, the fervently anti-commie USA stared in abject horror as Soviet supported socialist parties sprang up in Africa to replace these toppling Colonial provinces. They desperately didn't want the Red Menace to spread like locusts, but they also didn't want to be seen as supporting African colonies or colonial overlords, as their new 30 million strong blacks voting block became a powerful minority voting group not to piss off too much. Fortunately for Burgerland they had the racist NP Apartheid government as a mini power at the South Point of Africa to do the dirty work on their behalf. America would never formally condemn SA until the very end of the Soviet Union, and fall of the Berlin Wall. The Union of SA was simply too valuable as a bullwark against communism to lose the strategic south point of africa.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16829371328257833.webp

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/revista-de-historia-economica-journal-of-iberian-and-latin-american-economic-history/article/abs/financial-costs-of-the-portuguese-colonial-war-19611974-analysis-and-applied-study/31B3C7ADFAAB352A4D4EBAF0BFB7E3CA

I mention this about the USA because of how the Mozambique Independence war ended. By 1975 the Portuguese were basically dried up like a washing cloth. They simply didn't have the funds to keep an army funded half a planet away. Some economists estimated that by 1975 - 44% of the Portuguese budget was spent on fighting its colonial wars, it wasn't sustainable. Sentiment amongst the civilians populace in Portugal was also increasingly anti-war and anti-colonial rule. And the guerilla forces achieved their objective of making Mozambique too expensive to govern. Many People consider the Mozambique war of Independence, and the immediate followup Civil War to be one uninterrupted violent 30 year conflict. You see Burgerland believed that Mozambique would inevatably fall, and encouraged Rhodesia and South Africa to support anti-communist factions when the Portuguese inevatibly GTFO'd. But this meant that throughout the War of Independence, there was a quasi 3-way war between Portugal, the Soviet backed ocialist FRELIMO, and the South African & USA backed RENAMO. It's obscene to think that South Africa ended up sponsoring both Portugal AND RENAMO at the same time lmoa, but the policy was basically anti-commie no matter the cost or absurdity.

Post conclusion of the war for Independence, the political situation of Mozambique in 1975 was intensely unstable. Communists and anti-communist locals were beating each other up in the streets while the Portuguese were evacuating their army. Outside of the Afrikaners at the time in Mozambique whom had spread across all of Southern Africa in the 1800s from Cape Town, many of the Portuguese whites there had lived in Mozambique for multiple generations way back as 400 years ago, thus they were pretty drastically ingrained into Mozambique and their evaquation was traumatic. Within the 1st 2 weeks of Independance and overhanding of government control to the Mozambique socialists, 300 000 Portuguese all fled Mozambique after fear of the brutality in which colonial settlers were massacred in Angola. With the leaving of these settlers, Mozambique also lost much of its tradecraft and nation building experience. And unlike RSA there would be no teaching from white settler to black indigenous peeps at how to run the country later in 1990.

Anyways, after Independence, and after Portuguese fricked off, the violence and atrocities began immediately between the factions of FRELIMO (the commies) and RENAMO (the capitalists). Moscow blamed South Africa and Rhodesia for planting insurgents into Mozambique and destabilizing the new Democratic (not really the socialists were a one party rule) country. Rhodesia and SA blamed the Cubans and Soviets for planting insurgets to destabilize Southern Africa. Both were true and both sides were full of shit. For the next 20 years Mozambique would be proxy wars between the forces of communism and capitalism as the Soviets trained and armed FRELIMO and the South Africans & Rhodesians trained and armed RENAMO.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1682937133457773.webp

This war would be a contest of brutality, as brother culled brother, and father killed son. It would range from 1977 to 1992. The country of Mozambique would retrofit itself for war instead of economic wellfare. I"ndustrial and social recession, corruption, poverty, inequality and failed central planning eroded the initial revolutionary fervour. Single party rule by FRELIMO also became increasingly authoritarian throughout the Civil War." Over a million Mozambique locals would die in the conflict, either as casualties or from starvation as farming became impossible against the guerilla and counter guerilla raids between FRELIMO & RENAMO. Critical infrastructure left by the Portuguese like Hospitals and schools were destroyed with no ability for the population to rebuild them without tradecraft knowledge and no ability to learn engineering whilst under a state of warfare. The extensive Portuguese railways connecting villages deep from the ocean ports were destroyed, meaning new food could not be delivered to isolated places. The country became mined to oblivion. Farmlands would remain danger zones, until the very last landmines would finally be removed in 2015. And even then now and then a Mozambique girl loses their leg from a mine still obfuscated.

https://www.pressenza.com/2015/09/mozambique-removes-last-known-landmine/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16829371330396588.webp

This farce of human suffering would continue up until 1992 when the soviet Union collapsed, and both South African and their support for FRELIMO and RENAMO ended, respectively. The South African National Party government - the guys maintaining Apartheid, had used the Soviet Red Menace as a boogey man to upkeep the porpaganda for its own local Afrikaner populace - as not all of them were staunch apartheid supporters, and the lead narrative was that if the white race didn't corral their misguided black countrymen, then they'd fall to the evils of communism. I mention this because, it's a great sense of morbid irony that many afrikaner historians consider the fall of the Soviet Union to be the greatest cause for the fall of the Union of South Africa.

With no money from external Cold War enemies, the finances for bullets immediately dried up, and peace talks began between between the communist and anti-communist factions, as mediated by the Mozambique Grand Church, and the Italian Catholic Church. Tensions between the veterans still flare up today. As recent as 2015-2018 there was a short but brutal spat between opposing factions in the North of Mozambique. Although these are minor spats with casualty rates of like a few dozens, and not the apocalyptic hundreds of thousands from 1980s

https://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/mozambiques-renamo-kills-three-on-highway-1698575#.U_rGxvmSxkZ

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/africa/2013-08-13-36-mozambique-soldiers-police-killed-renamo/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RENAMO_insurgency_(2013%E2%80%932021)

The short is that modern Mozambique is a very commie leftwing government which is as corrupt and dysfunctional as their ANC counterparts. Also check this!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Mozambican_general_election

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16829371332153068.webp

Yeah that's right, the modern major political parties don't just share the same names as that of the factions during the Mozambique civil war, they fricking ARE the exact same factions, with some politicians sitting in Mozambique parliament having been the same generals commanding troops to kill their political opponents sitting on opposite benches literally in the field of combat! Point is, it's Kosovo levels of political instability and tension, even 30 years after the end of the war, and many atrocities like mowing down civilians still stand as open wounds never having been healded by both factions.


THE BURNING DOWN OF MOZAMBIQUE SURVEYOR GENERAL's OFFICES AND THE NATIONAL TITLE DEED's OFFICES:

Right back to Cadastral stuff. At some point between 1977 to 1992, during the Civil War, communist guerillas had infiltrated Maputo the capital and burned down fricking everything. 100 Year old maps. Records, files, stamps, folders, and deeds. Every single municipality and region and province ceased to exist on file, and there was basically only ash. They did this with the deliberate intent of destroying what they had believed to be a European supremacist system, and by eliminating the Mozambique National Cadaster, they would basically go full Fight Club with that end scene where the main character destroys all banks and relieves everyone from crippling debt. In this way the socialist soldiers believed that by eliminating records of which boundaries belonged to whom, they would have eliminated Portuguese influence upon Mozambique society forever, and ensure that the Coommunist notion of commune and shared prosperity would follow.

Of course with the end of the Civil war, and during peace talks in 1992 between the 2 factions, mediated by the Grand Mozambique church, post war chaos, people discovered that all of the Cadastral records were destroyed and the unintentional chaos soon followed. You see black people whom had lived for centuries next to a beach, suddenly found themselves in conflict with veterans rewarded with land which fell over their physical buildings, like their cattle corrals and huts. Men with brick houses refused to share land with other without records, but there were no records to have proof of ownership.

Many of the entrepeneurs whom tried to uplift themselves out of poverty, could not leverage their homes or ancestral lands for loans to start a shop or business, as no bank local or multi-national would loan against a land parcel which had no proof of ownership. Houses, buildings and flats which survived the war could not improve with asset interest, as once again ownership proof wasn't obtainable from anywhere. Who the heck is gonna buy a farm, if the guy you are buying it from can't proof he's the ACTUAL owner. This elimination of cadastral records would have dramatic economic repercussions for Mozambique's economy, when they had already suffered a devastating colossal poverty inducing war.

The absence of maps, and municipal records of say, where the water pipes were laid, also meant that maintanence would not be achieved easily for any water system which would need the eventual repairs over time. Other problems without a national Cadastral record, included which boundaries laid where against Mozambique's national borders, and fights would break out between Mozambique and Zimbabwe, as to whom owned what. There sure as heck wasn't any Multi-national communist friendship when Zimbabwe discovered coal near Mozambique's borders. It was a massive diplomatic slapfight between the two nations.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16829371335569925.webp

https://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/zimbabwes-hunger-for-power-2014-04-07

The biggest fights between land ownership tends to be next to the coast and beaches, as fishing rights between villagers can depend on whose land is adjacent to what part of the coast, and people will ignore land parcel boundaries anyway to go and fish. The point is, there was massive national nuclear drama caused by the thoughtless actions taken by these commies when they cucked their entire nation by burning down the Survey records and Title deeds of all the farms and stands.


Anyways GOOD DAY! :marseywave2:

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EFFORTPOST Nooooo you can't just kill scammers. Just let them scam you! :soycry:

Context

News article about the incident

A :chad: went on a date with a women and while they were lookong for parking the scammer ( Elliot Nix) came up to them saying they could leave their car in the parking lot for $40 dollars. The :chad: later learned from an employee at the restaurant that the scammer didn't actually work there so :chad: excused himself from the date to go to his car to grab his gun and kill the scammer. He then went back to his date after killing Nix.

Unfortunately, the police started looking for him and the foid ratted him out. But some are speculating that he'll get away with it because of some based laws in Texas


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841350787630754.webp

Yee haw

:#marseytexan::#marseybountyhunter:

Free him he did nothing wrong


Drama

Based

he killed somebody over 40 dollars dude

Someone risked his life to steal 40 dollars dude

Didn't realize you were an anarchist. Weird that there's so many defending murder over $40 as if it wasn't just an excuse to kill someone in cold blood

When crime gets bad, and nothing is being done about it, people get more fed up with crime. I do think this should be considered murder but I have 0 sympathies towards the thief and the world is better off

The world is better off having a murderer instead of a scammer? A scammer that, mind you, should have been addressed in court? When you allow people to take the law and lives into their own hands, you get murderers with complexes.

The courts:

Nix faced two misdemeanor charges from 2022. One was for criminal trespassing and theft of less than $100 and at the time of his death. He also had multiple prior criminal convictions dating back to 2006, including for theft and trespassing, according to court records.

Surely this timehr would have changed his ways

:#marseyclueless:


It isn't a case of justified use of deadly force to protect property, it's simple vigilantism! He chose to act as jury, judge and executioner!

You say that like it's a bad thing.

killing people over $40 is not good šŸ‘

It's the world that was created when we let people burn cities to the ground because they were sad. The State's monopoly on violence has expired.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684135079230379.webp


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841350799168353.webp

Source


https://i.imgur.com/a/OeHoaqC


Texas, where gun rights are more important than human life

Donā€™t defraud, deceive, steal from or harm others and you wonā€™t meet the justice of another man scorned.

can't imagine being this sensitive about $40

Just stating an observation and a warning that doing ill towards others invites ill towards yourself. You honestly canā€™t expect to steal or harm or deceive people and expect not to receive consequences of any type because youā€™re going to stumble upon the wrong person who will find it justified in their eyes to end your life for your transgressions.

"Why are so sensitive about people stealing your stuff chud?"


Reddit Texans Discuss

Imagine killing someone and going to prison over losing $40. Darn.

Prison is a good place for a sociopath.

Agreed. The way he calmly walked back to his date like nothing had happened was scary.

:#marseyscared:

Iā€™m not advocating violence or what he did was a good thingā€¦but on the bright sideā€¦there is one less thief in the world..

I agree. The murderer is obviously a total sociopath and deserves to be in prison, but I don't feel a whole lot of sympathy for the thief... I'm not sure why everyone else here does.

Enjoy being a pos that thinks 40 bucks is worth a life.

when did I say that? Did he ā€œdeserveā€ to die? of course notā€¦ I just think we need to make the best of a tragedyā€¦the silver lining of this mess is that we as the public, wonā€™t need worry about these two anymoreā€¦I donā€™t feel sorry for the thief or the murdererā€¦Iā€™m that the way I am choosing to look and think about thisā€¦

Cool when youā€™re brutally murdered Iā€™ll make sure to show up to your funeral and try to lift your familyā€™s spirit by telling them at least thereā€™s one less shitty reddit commenter in this world

:#soyreddit:

Gotta love the governor is gladly enabling these kind of people.

So what is your solution?

Comprehensive gun reform and gun buy backs.

Nobody is closing that Pandora's Box without bloodshed. 40M guns in Texas and for quite a number of people, their firearms are part of their personality. You might say "but Australia...". Between October 1996 and September 1997, Australia bought back 650k guns. Thats not even a dent in 40M. Im sure some of you wont like facts.

So we should do nothing thenā€¦?

Its tool usage. Mental health issues ares a major contributor to the misuse of said cowtools.

Vote šŸ—³

:#marseyobamacope:


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EFFORTPOST :!marseyschizotwitch: schizo drama in the schizo subreddit as schizo proves to be too schizo for other schizos :marseystims:

Hi :marseyblush: after all the recent trainpost pins to the front page I figured Iā€™d dig something up that was marginally interesting and not just :marseytransrentfree:

As it turns out, schizo infighting is more than dramatic enough! :marseyexcited: consider this a sequel to my other schizostalking posts

Mortalcels be seething over Godchads

The post in question is titled ā€œMerge into Godhood to Escapeā€

The way to evolve yourself into godhood is to merge all of your soul parts into your one, which increases your consciousness because you are increasing the amount of space time within the reality in your body. Don't stop at your Astral body. Locate all parts. It will never end until you reach back to source, so essentially, we can evolve and grow infinitely

To make it simple:marseybrainlet:

We are fractals of source consciousness. Consciousness is space and time , the more we merge with our parts of consciousness in space in time, the more we control in reality.

Their are many many ways to achieve this but the most simple way is heal your ego until you realize parts of you that already existed within you become realized and available to control.

In this sense pain becomes your friend :marseycut::marseycarp2: because it is the fastest way to show you what needs to be healed and where you can gain more self power over reality.

Basically the post is saying you can move cars with your mind if you collect all the infinity stones or something :marseydisney: and apparently the way to do that is pain so itā€™s okay if youā€™re miserable bro youā€™re realizing your higher power :marseyseethe: plus he said ā€œfractalsā€ when Iā€™m pretty sure he meant ā€œfracturesā€ :marseygigaretard:

Anyway the real drama is always in the comments, where a few people are a little skeptical :marseythonk:

:marseynerd2: ā€¦ā€¦Iā€™m gonna have to be that guy and ask for your source because dude wtf

:marseygigachad: I only go within for information. I only speak based on experience

Ok thx! :smackhead: If you can elaborate on what the components of soul are (assuming you meant this),

what merging the soul leads to increasing the amount of space-time in your body meant,

& how consciousness merges with space and time?

It never fails to amaze me how schizos will literally take ā€œI made it upā€ as an actual source :marseyxd:

:soyreddit: Anyone can say that. ā€œI only go withinā€

That means nothing. It just means your opinion dude.

Kinda miffed we donā€™t have Big Lebowski Marseys :marseyraging: but this guy who made the comment (/u/Alexx2k17) appears numerous times in the thread, absolutely seething over this Knowledge-withinmaxxing chad. Iā€™ll make sure to head his comments with :soyreddit: every time to make him recognizable :marseythumbsup:

:holdupjak: This is the definition of psycho babble

I thought that was the whole sub neighbor :derpunimpressed:

:soyreddit: Consciousness is not space and time. Space and time creates the time illusion this reality runs off. This sub Reddit is ruined

/r/EscapingPrisonPlanet has fallen. Millions must die (only to be reincarnated by reptilians) :chudsmug:

:marseygigachad: Everything is source consciousness. Literally everything.

:soyreddit: No, source consciousness is the soul. Us inside of bodies. And source consciousness is outside this matrix system. Here, everything is illusionary holograms

:marseygigachad: Yeah, the particles moving at speeds to form mass is the illusion. That is still source, that still is conscious. Everything is living

Honestly if it wasnā€™t for usernames I wouldnā€™t be able to tell who is who :marseynouautism: Schizo arguments all start to blend together after a while :marseyitsallsotiresome:

:marseybow: Beautifully written and described

:soyreddit: ā€œShe/her. Lesbian. Mary Janeā€

Nice biographyšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

Sub Reddit invaded by NPCā€™s

Didnā€™t know schizos could get so chuddy :marseydisagree::!chudsey: do better, Alexx2k17

Iā€™m just gonna take a picture of this next thread because honestly I canā€™t be bothered to copy/paste all the :marseyrage:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16827147834977167.webp

Give it a rest buddy :marseycringe:

And finally, my favorite conversation on this post:

:soyreddit: What are you even talking about?

:gigachad4: Calm down.

Absolutely BTFO after commenting like 20 times on the post :marseyxd: I think I found pizzaā€™s Reddit schizo alt.

OP :#gigachad:

/u/AsbaghoulMinitari is his name and his post history is certainly a trip. This is some Elder Scrolls CHIM/Mantling shit :marseydagothur2:

His post history only goes back a month and he made his most recent post today, so heā€™s probably pretty active. Gonna keep an eye on this one, adding him to the list :marseynotes:

Alex the Argumentative :#soyreddit:

And what of our dear contrarian schizochud? Well he has own beliefs where he is seemingly convinced that the world is a 3D simulation controlled by what he calls ā€œMachine Elvesā€ and that you can see past the illusion by taking ketamine.

So yeah :marseyxd:

Adding him to the grand schizolist as well :marseynotesglow:

Anyway thatā€™s about it from me! :marseywave3: keep being dramatic my dramafriends, I love you all so much :marseymarseylove:

!effortposters :marseymerchant:

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EFFORTPOST History of Dramatic Nandos :marseyblackcock::marseyfriedchicken: controversial Advertisements in South Africa :marseyflagsouthafrica:

Greetings Dramastrags! :marseyfsjal:

Today I wanna talk about Nandos - a chain of restaurants which originated in Johannesburg South Africa, in 1987 by a Portuguese strag who plagiarized a Mozambique restaurant's recipes, before making his own. The name nandos is a nickname after the guy's surname Fernandos. It was never as big as KFC, but the chain quietly and steadily grew to great national success under his leadership, eventually even obtaining an international market in places like Bongland - where the english REALLY seemed to like the chain even more than South Africans. Generally South Africans tend to enjoy Nandos more than KFC, as the method of grilling is similar to the way the black indigenous people warm up their meat. There's a Nandos in every big city, and it's very successful ect ect.

But what we wanna focus on the Defcon 1 turbo butthurt that Nandos has caused for Southern Africans over the past two decades with their advertisements. You see Nandos has a pretty long history since the early 1990s of having batshit insane over the top adverts shown on SA T.V. Similar in nature to the Terry Crews over the top Old Spice deodorant adverts from america. These zany ads worked pretty well at establishing Nandos into the national conscience of the country, since they could never compete against the international behemoths of places such as MacDonalds or KFC otherwise. Nowadays Nandos' adverts are pretty rare, I presume because they are finally a large enough international conglomerate to not have to even advertise themselves, cuz i haven't seen a Nandos advert in a very long time. But then again, I avoid cable TV like the plague because it's invested with endless slogs of ads.


HONANRARY MENTION OF KANGAROOLAND:

Before we eff off to SA, I just wanna include that I found some Australian drama all the way back in 2002, where Nandos bussy-blasted the Kangaroo people there by highlighting in one of their adverts in Australia, the plight of Asylum seekers. Australia has pretty hardcore border control, and immigrants and refugees are always immediately detained upon entry for processing, to detect they aren't international criminals or lice-infected or whatever. Nandos Australia went full galaxy brain :marseybigbrain: and deemed the philosophy that even bad publicity is good publicity, but poking the hornets nest in Aussie national discourse. Apparently a bunch of rightoids were upset, I have no idea.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/asylum-seekers-plight-used-to-peddle-chickens-20020729-gdufva.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196451175427.webp


NANDOS MOCKS JULIAS MALEMA IN ADVERTS:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196450486958.webp

Our big boi JuJu Malema has been a staple of Saffer uncivilized politics for over 15 years now. Originally he was the leader of the ANC Youth League - but the bastard was always inflamatory and preached extremism towards whites. He actively campaigned far left policies, which even the left wing ANC with their mixed economy model, found to be unpalatable. When he was elected as the President of the ANC Youth League back in 2008, oh boi was politics a whole lot more entertaining that year :marseypopcorn::marseypopcorntime: For like a year he gained infamy throughout the country throughout his public spats with the heads of the current ANC government. There was common sentiment among boers that he was a hidden blessing in disguise - for as long as the ANC was busy with internal slapfights :slapfight: they would be leaving us farmers in peace. Because back in 2008, the idea of Prescription without Compensation - the taking of white farmer lands without payment or warning or legal process - was gaining popularity throughout the youngest members of the ANC. But at the same time total collapse of the Zimbabwean economy was underway, and even the most hateful of ANC top command could see that a country that amputated all of its commercial farmers and food producers, was a highway to ruination, so the ANC opposed the ANC Youth League from 2008-2009. For many of the ANC top leaders they just found cushy jobs in their corrupt Nepo states, and they weren't keen on Malema rocking the boat.

The RSA public was of course appalled at this new grotesque display of a lack of dignity between our political leaders, in their petty back and forth public displays of their bad english speaking skills. Many people here have in retrospect after the Trump administration, called Julias Malema the black SA Trump, because of his tendency to have a perpetual monthly drama in the news involving him. And of course our best friends at Nandos thought to capitalize on this new circus in RSA news with a galaxy brained advertisement.

:lolface::lolface::lolface:

Nandos created an advert which showcased a puppet with Malema's visage and speaking pattern, and whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boi was there nuclear fallout. The usual complaints from the black population about the puppet being racist, because it had exagerated features. But this puppet was crafted after the english puppets which always mocked politicians via exaggerated facial features like:

Here's an australian comedy group mocking South African white leaders during the height of Aprtheid, and all of the mayo puppets had exaggerated facial features; I could not find the original video, it's been banished into the shadowrealm by U-tube. If any kangaroolanders could do me the favour of finding the original video, I'd be grateful :marseybegging: The song is very swag. šŸŽµšŸŽ¼šŸŽµšŸŽ¶ "I've never met a nice Saf African!" šŸŽµšŸŽ¼šŸŽµšŸŽ¶ :marseysing:

Malema and his ANC Youth League cohorts went all like :marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage: the sneed and rage was glorious. It was on the news 24/7. Looks like the ad worked. Eventually public pressure forced the cowards to take the ad down, since as usual Malema lowkey threatened to send his followers to physically destroy Nandos premises. https://mg.co.za/article/2009-04-23-nandos-bows-to-pressure-agrees-pull-julius-advert/

https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/nandos-now-flighting-a-saucy-julius-ad-441355

Malema also sent his lawyers after Nandos, which further prompted them to cancel the advert, but not after they released another advert, with the puppet's face pixelated and the voice altered.

Hilariously the Malema puppet was later put on auction for charity by Nandos, and sold for R100 000 after 700 bids.

https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/julius-puppet-finds-new-home-442542


THERE A ZULU ON MY STOEP RACIST AD:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_Zulu_On_My_Stoep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Nqakula

Back in 2007 Nandos also made an advert called "there's a zulu on my stoep" in reference to the 1993 Leon Shuster comedy movie, wherein a white man and black man each wear perfect racebending masks and suits to escape crime or whatever, and had to face the tribulations of each other's races, it was supposed to poke fun at the race tension in RSA at the most stressful time. Nandos mocked the safety and security minister Charles Nqakula, which had been grileld by journ*lists for his crime stance, and the fact that under his leadership the crime in RSA had increased to one of the highest on earth.

"Nqakula was again criticized while he was in Burundi, promoting peace and democracy, while there was a spate of violent crime in Gauteng. This spate included the killings of an alarming number of people, including members of the South African Police Service killed while performing their duties. The criticism preceded a subsequent announcement by the minister that an all out effort would be made to quell the alarming increase of crime by 30 December 2006. 54 police officers have lost their lives in the first 7 months of 2006."

When reporters asked his opinion of the drama, he famously replied: "They can continue to whinge until they are blue in the face, they can continue to be as negative as they want to, or they can simply leave this country,"

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196448313484.webp

https://web.archive.org/web/20070313104541/http://www.argus.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=460&fArticleId=3274298

I don't remember the advert, i was too young, and i couldn't find it through all the linkrot; but the basic premise was that Charles was acting like a white man, not taking the troubles of his black crime ridden communities seriously.


THE LAST DICTATORS ADVERT:

The Tzar bomba, and biggest detonation of drama of all the legendary Nandos adverts! The advert angered pretty much every brand of wingcuck on the surface of Southern Africa!

The 1-minute advert shows a lone Robert Mugabe sitting alone in a big fancy mansion during a holiday remising about the past when he had lots of comedic fun with other world famous dictators. He plays waterguns with Gaddaffi, makes sand angels with Saddam Hussein, sings karaoke with Mao Zedong, and pushes P. W. Botha (the last white president whom upheld Apartheid, before he was supplanted by F.W. de Klerk to end Apartheid) on a swing set. It's a pretty ballsy advert, and plenty of people had pretty strong feelings about it.

White afrikaans boomers protested that the advert was inaccurate, and that there was totally democratic rule under P.W. Botha's rule, with absolute zero sense of irony. Chinks in SA were too small a minority for anyone to give a shit, but they were sneeding about Dear Leader not being shown all dignified like. Black pan-african wingcucks sneeded because the advert DARED to show african leaders as dictators, and sneeded that all of the countries shown like Libya was totally democratic and not held under military might of Gaddafi, or that the brutal dictator Idi Amin didn't genocide in Uganda and wasn't a dictator ect ect.

Many black ANC wingcucks sneeded that Nandos dared show an african leader like Mugabe to be just was villanious as the white devil evil apartheid leaders! Black people are totally wholesome all the time :blacksoyjak::blacksoyjak::blacksoyjak: Sneed sneed sneed. It was glorious.

But the biggest shitshow was in Zimbabwe itself. Mugabe reacted the way like all dictators do, just like Putin did with the famous clown Putin meme, or the way Xi reacted to the Winnie the Pooh meme. Of course in Zimbabwe itself, the situation for the poor Nandos workers there was quite serious, as militant Mugabe supporters were calling for violent action against the chain in the country of Zimbabwe. Nandos corporate had to quickly backtrack and pull out the advert, for the safety of their employees there, and issue a wimpy soggy apology for Mugabe cabinet pretty quickly. Our buddy Zuma was best pals with Mugabe, and enforced that the South African Nandos chains also remove the advert. Of course the Streisand effect meant that the Nandos ad became forbidden fruit, and every Saffer teenager with a Blackberry and crusty flipphone would watch it during the lunchtime on their school playground.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/advertising/last-dictator-spoof-angers-mugabe-faithful-6269818.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-16002239


NANDOS MOCKS ZUMA:

Back in 2016, there was immense controversy about President Jacob Zuma involving the discovery of his home mega mansion - Putin style - which he had built using syphoned taxpayer's money. The Nkandla homestead would be a source of drama for like 5 years straight, but back in 2016 Zuma went full r-slur and suggested paying back only part of the taxpayers money instead of addresseing the notion of corruption that must have taken place for a president to even be able to steal money in the 1st place. Nandos jumped on the bandwagon pretty quickly, and ended up pissing off Zuma's fanatically loyal conservative Zulu voting base.

https://www.sapeople.com/2016/02/03/nandos-advert-offers-president-zum-paybackthemoney-south-africa/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196446624014.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1682419644433284.webp

Not much happened compared to the Malema spat, but a lot of zulu and ANC wingcucks were sneeding in their respective languages on facebook and twatter.


THE NANDOS XENOPHOBIA ADVERT:

As bad as South Africa is, the rest of the African continent isn't fairing so much better, and for the past 20 years a metric shitload of refugees have flooded our borders, congolese, nigerians, and especially Zimbabweans. As Zimbabwe economically collapsed by 2010, it was estimated that by 2010 there were between 5-10 million of them as illegal aliens in RSA, some seeking residency at the Department of Home Affairs, and others just illigally hiding out in the various rural towns and farms for work. Our dogshit military and police force are so lazy and incompetent that they have completely neglected the South African northern borders. The are no patrols, and the fences bordering Mozambique and Zimbabwe have all been stolen for scrapmetal while the lazy soldiers lay in the sun baking like a beach tourist. I would know, I was literally there surveying 3 years ago. When the Limpopo river is completely dry, you can just walk across the sand banks. North of Musina, there is an orange farm called Katina-Alith, where zimbabweans walk across the river to buy from the white boers there, and walk back lol. The farmers don't care, the police don't care, it's all happy days!

Anyways for context, in South Africa, a lot of farmers/boers tend to favour Zimbabwean workers for several reasons. As most of them are refugees with nothing but the clothes on their backs as they were chased by Mugabes military, they are humble and hardcore hard workers, whom are willing to do anything without complaint to feed themselves and their families. This is in start contrast against the local black zulus and xhosas whom are very entitled to to grants or land or jobs. They fail to see that even the oppresive Afrikaners and the Apartheid regime worked very hard to erect the previous Union of South African, and don't understand that much work still needed to be done after SA became a Democracy. I know that's cruel of me to say for many black south africans whom live in stagnant poverty, but it's very difficult to explain the strange mentality that South African black peeps have in relation to work ethics. In contrast Zimbabweans are all highly educated and can speak fluent english, because the old Rhodesian education system was exceptional. Thus boers, from the poorest white, to the richest farmer, favour working from them, since they can actually do things like count, and the farmer can rely on them to become middle managers or tractor drivers for him. I'm not joking about the counting thing either, black south africans have math passrate on average of 30-50%. This is because all of the traditional schools' teachers are worthlessly lazy and just show up to schools in black dominated regions to collect a monthly check, and leave their poor zulu and xhoza students in limbo. And the powerful RSA Teacher's Union fricks any attempt at reform. There's no nice way of putting it; the new generation of Xhozas and Zulus are quite frankly....stupid.:marseygigaretard:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-01-22-daring-solutions-are-needed-to-solve-south-africas-maths-teaching-crisis/

Because of this, in places like Gauteng, Kwazulu-Natal, Mapumalanga, and the Free State. Illegal Zimbabweans slowly and incrimentally came to be chosen as a workforce over their local peers. This had bred resentment towards foreigners even as our Commie friends of the EFF preached that we should allow workers into the country for a united proletariat. This resentment started to explode into full blown Xenophobia, and a series of violent attacks began to occur against foreigners in the sketchy parts of Joburg, and all of the rural regions of RSA. Even african foreigners whom were here legally, and had obtained visas or citizenship were not always safe. A national debate and sneed fest began between all of the african commentators in RSA radio about how modern black south africans found themselves in the world and the morality of xenophobia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_South_African_xenophobic_riots

Finally in 2015 there was an explosion of xenophobic attacks, which culminated into full blown hardcore race riot violence between black africans in Durban. This was directly a result of the Zulu King https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwill_Zwelithini opening his gob, and complaining about outlanders stealing Saffer jobs. You see the zulus of RSA are the biggest and most populous demographic, very conservative, and take their royalty very very seriously. And what he says goes, and zulus follow it. Even Zuma had to take second place to his will. This has of course caused problems with the rest the ANC supporters from other black groups like Sothos, Pedis and vendas since according to the ANC manifesto all africans, men and women should be equal, so how is it that there are kings and chieftans still ruling like a fuedal lord in a new modern democracy. But that's another story.

The 2015 xenophobic attacks were pretty violent - zulus went full brownshirts and Night of the Long Knives on the shops and stalls of any foreigners and attacked immigrants in general. The violence became so infamous across RSA, that the diplomatic tensions from other countries the refugees were from was even strained. Nigeria, Kenya, Mozambique and Malawi even repatriated their citizens amidst fear of further reprisals. A lot of woke black and white people had their brains melted as they didn't know what to make of such a complex situation when black african were so cruel to their fellow black africans.

https://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-south-africa-foreigners-20150417-story.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1682419642184723.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196426621559.webp

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/4/17/thousands-rally-in-south-africa-against-xenophobia

A rally was later held as protest against xenophobia in Durban.

https://ewn.co.za/2015/04/16/Zulu-Kings-comments-taken-to-task

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196428612602.webp

The Zulu king came under media fire when he said no-no things about foreigners


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/20/south-africa-xenophobic-violence-zulu-king-goodwill-zwelithini

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824196431310058.webp

Later he backtracked like a b-word, saying the media misquoted him, and that he was totally not at fault for the xenophobic explosion as a consequence of his words.


And then of course or friends Nandos decided to place themselves square in the middle of this countrywide drama, after all what could go wrong :marseyclueless:

It's a great advert, and once again it caused great butthurt amongst everybody! Many of the xhozas, vendas and other bantu groups are illiterate and refuse to believe the history that many groups migrated from 1800 onwards down south past Limpopo from Mozambique in South Africa as nomadic groups, the notion that the Dutch was quite literally in South Africa before the Zulus for example makes them shit bricks in anger!

Other sneed involved the usual anger that black hypocracy was being pointed out in their xenophobic cruelty, and that they behave similar to their white counterparts when things are disfavorable against them. Many bantu groups now occupy previous Khoi-san and Hottentot homelands which was conquered from the 1750-1850 period onwards, and many modern black groups explode in anger when confronted that they also dabbled a little bit in "colonialism" whoopsie

But of course the zulus being called out directly in this advert was the main vulcanic source of screetching on social media.

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32448837


Anyways I'm closing off with a collection of funny Nandos ads. Good Night! :marseyretard2:

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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: South African Wild Game Colour Variants Drama - when the Boers unwittingly cucked themselves with an unintentional Pyramid scheme :marseyilluminati: in the Hunting Industry :marseyshooting:

Greetings Dramatards :marseywave:

I need to go into several backgrounds for this nuclear armageddon drama to even make sense. I mentioned that in south africa, the boere has an extremely prolific gun and hunting culture, compared to that of the other 12 different demographics in RSA. Like yanks, we are gunsexuals and love to add blackpowder in coffee. Because of the intense diversity of wild game and bucks in the country, we also have an international appeal to hunting. For many of the most rural people, hunting opportunistically for hares, foxes, tarentale or the odd small game is a way of life, and forms a semi-regular portion of their diets. Because my father and uncles are all avid hunters, and follow hunting related news, I've been exposed to various dramas related to the wild game and antelope industry of South Africa.

For us the notion of vegans was pretty alien, since in african levels of poverty beggers can't be picky choosers, for both poor white farmers, and black people here. When i went to study surveying in UCT, I basically went from bumfrick nowhere conservative bible belt, to turbo ultra mega liberal land. It was a pretty unsettling and traumatizing experience, from a town of 10 000 people to 5 million. It was a very confusing place for me, because all the whites there spoke english, and all the coloured/black people spoke afrikaans. Wat de fok. But the most discombobulating thing for me was meeting vegetarians. I literally helped slaughter bucks/antelopes, touching guts and hanging carcasses, so my notion of animals not being on the same level of humans made me an immediate pariah and sneed-generator :marseytroll: On the other hand, it was where I unlearned my racism, because many of the black kids there took a liking to me instantly and befriended me, because I never turned up my nose to pap, never looked down upon their way of life and food making, and understood the hardships they suffered in rural RSA, something vegans and other ultra liberal types could had irononically a hard time breaching.


THE FALL OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN RAND, AND ITS CONSEQUENCES:

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/game-and-wildlife/sa-hunting-poised-for-growth/

https://www.news24.com/news24/opinions/analysis/counting-the-contribution-of-hunting-to-south-africas-economy-20181117

Right, anyways back to the Drama. In South Africa, we have a large hunting industry, which usually acts in symbiosis with our tourism industry, pumping in annually 2 Billion rand into the RSA economy. The biltong industry, the dried meat market, pumps a further 11 billion rands into the economy, both from domestic sales, and exports. So it's proved its weight. But the most lucrative market for private wildlife ranch/farm owners comes from Trophy hunting from foreigners, such as fat yanks, smug canadians, stupid euros and chad Indians. South Africa is a VERY popular Hunting Vacation spot, because the crappy dwindling value of the rand has had dwindling conversion rate against the dollar and euros - which is bad for South Africans, but very very good for Burgers and Bongs, who's even mediocre middle class salaries, will mean that they can live like kings while hunting and/or vacationing with their famimlies in Southern Africa.

https://somerbysafaris.com/hunting-areas-and-lodges-south-africa/

The big drama had already started way back pre 2000, as more and more South African wild game farm owners began to realize that marketing their bucks/antelopes for hunting to Europe/America was extremely lucrative. Many americans and europeans were oblivious to the fact that hunting in South Africa was even a thing, or was allowed, or were very tepid and nervous at the notion of going to a strange unknown land in a different continent to go hunt. Many South African huntmasters would build paradise-like Lodges and camping grounds. They would even go so far as to advertise that they would physically meet them at the Johannesburg airport, drive them all the way to their private farms/lodges, and drive them back when the hunt was done a week later - this was very appealing for wimpy foreigners whom were scared and fearful of a country full of black people ,and liked the notion of a civilized Hwhitoid to come collect them and chaperone them like royalty. They would receive 5 star hotel services in the middle of the wilderniss, and all of this was possible, because these new breed of huntmasters whom advertised to foreigners, could ask 10 times the price for lodging and hunt fees that they would ask from local south african hunters, and the yanks would pay it easily, and without blinking, because their powerful dollar/pound/euro completely smashed the rand in conversion rate. What was a king's ransom for a local Saffer, was peanuts for an Englishman.

As I said, Boers had an intense gun/hunting culture, and have participated as the primary customers, along with a few rugged Bongs, as the customers of hunting in RSA. Foreigners have always participated in RSA hunting of course, even way back in the Union of SA/ Apartheid days, but they were always a specialist minority. The reason was that the rand used to be almost as strong as the dollar. I can't find a source, but my father claims that for one single week in 1979, the rand was worth more than the dollar for 1 whole week by like a few cents. But like only for a week.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/21665/a-history-of-south-africas-currency/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16823319000049267.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16823319001459427.webp

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/financial-advisor-views/with-the-rand-falling-will-my-money-be-worth-anything/

As the social unrest in RSA became a norm in the New Democratic South Africa, and the ANCs abominable rule entrenched itself as a new culture of corruption, the Rand systemically began to dwindle as a reliable currency for investors, until in 2000 the once proud Rand had fallen to an Abysmal 10:1 conversion rate against the Dollar. This changed everything for SA hunting. In the Apartheid years accepting Pounds and Dollars wasn't more lucrative than accepting local Saffer's money, but by 2000, the same middle class in burgerland could literally buy 10 times the food, 10 times the vacation, and 10 times the hunting experience than their South African peers. Foreigners became very good for business, and the most entrepreneurial farmers/huntmasters jumped for this pile of gold.


HUNTING BECOMES A LUXURY:

The unfeeling merciless economic forces of supply and demand soon meant that wild game ranches would steadily pump up their prices from 2000 to 2010 onwards, as more and more burgers/Bongs would come to hunt here and be willing to pay exorbitant prices (by SA standards, but not 1st world standars). This slowly and systemically started pushing all prices upwards, from the most costly Elands to the humble "staple" food for local hunters such as the spingboks, Impalas and Blesboks. Hunting in RSA was genuinely "cheap" if you were middleclass, or at least entirely affordable. The sheer amount of meat for example, you would get to feed your family for a month or two from a single Blesbok carcass was much more affordable than buying it's mutton or pork, or cattle meat equivalent at store. For many poor saffers, shooting 1-2 of the "staple" food bucks annually, like Blesboks and Springboks was an easy feat and a highlight of their year.

But more and more wild game ranches started to cater to their Burger and Bong international customers, and the prices of lodging, slaugthtering fees, guide fees, and of course the price of the bucks themselves became completely unafrfodable for many. I'm only 29 years old, yet in my short lifespan as a teenager, I saw hunting go from something the lower middle classes and poor trailer trash whites did, to a distinct Upper Middle class hobby. The gnashing of teeth and seething from Afrikaans/Soutie poors :soymad:, loud and fuming, as they were literally cucked out of their hunting lifestyle by rich chad foreigner burgers. :chadusa: You would of course still always be able to hunt, and for those who were well connected and savvy like my father would still be able to sniff out good deals sensible for locals, but the point is hunting slowly became a luxury, instead of a way of life for many.


THE WILD GAME COLOUR VARIANTS:

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/game-and-wildlife/rise-fall-future-colour-variants/

The wild game ranch owners and huntmasters all became stinking rich. Many ranch farmers used to be just regular domestic cattle farmers, and would switch over to Hunting as an alternative as they saw their (sometimes literal) neighbours becoming obscenely wealthy with so little comparitive effort. Many wild game farmers used to not be very glamorous, but by the mid 2000s they were just oozing with american cash, and like many rich people they had too much time and too much poor taste to create anything constructive. You see in the hunting and farming industry, most owners of cattle/bucks try to enforce an artificial Natural Selection, to ensure that their herd are always healthy, or that only the strongest individuals against chronic diseases survive. This has been done for thousadns of years, ever since the domestication of cattle, goats, sheep and chickens.

The idea is very simple: you would cull all the undesired variants in a camp, and ensure only the desired male buck would have the opportunity to breed with all the females. The desired trait the farmers/huntmasters wanted could be anything, be that larger horns for the next generation for trophy hunting, or fatter Blesboks for more biltong/meat. Obviously enforcing artificial Natural Selection is much much harder than with domestic animals, and takes a much longer timeframe to achieve, but it has been done for hundreds of years.

A pivotal moment for SA Hunting came, when one eccentric farmer whose name has now been lost to time who it first was through all the myths and chaos that would soon follow, had deliberately bred colour variants of Springboks and Rooiboks. You see just like humans, mammals often are born with a genetic defect such albinism, some of you guys have probably seen albino crocodiles and other reptiles. Of course sometimes the genetic defect can even be helpful, like say the albino crocodile somehow has a better chance to survive in a new environment and can Camouflage better as a consequence of this genetic defect - then natural evolution occurs over time.

Of course in places like the Kalahari, Savanna and Transvaal - being an albino is a distinct disadvantage since all of these bucks are perfectly adapted to blend into their respective environments. Thus natural forces would mean that these poor frickers would be the easiest spotted by lions and cheetahs, and would be the 1st culled from the herd, ensuring their genes would never pass on. In South africa, it was estimated that Sprinboks have a naturally occurring colouring genetic defect for 1/ 700 to 1/1500 in nature. So they are mega rare. Bur for South AFrican antelopes, there are more colouring defects than just albinism; there are other types such as the most famous blackened Springboks.

https://www.chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/albinism-springboks-rare-colour-mutation-caused-recessive-allele-albinism-results-white-fu-q96764518

Somehow a bunch of r-slurred weirdos deliberately sought out these colour variants, and bred them compulsively so that entire herds formed. The blackened Springbok is the most famous, as experimental selection had been done by eccentrics way back in 1991 already, but they were just a fad, and they were never much more expensive than their normal Springbok counterparts. For about a decade these deliberate coloured variants breeding were just experiments by farmers whom had too much time, and didn't do it for financial incentives. But as the Rand fell towards the new millennium in the year 2000, things would change drastically. The hunting industry was blooming, as the rest of the country's economic situation weakened.


INTERNATIONAL HUNTERS BECOME INTERESTED IN COLOUR VARIANTS:

As burgers and Bongs became more and more regular customers of South African hunting Lodges, their tastes also became more and more refined. The big american gunsexuals were always looking for the next great trophy and the next exotic animal to turn into a taxidermic monstrosity to hang back at their homes. SA huntmasters competed to breed bucks with the biggest horns, the biggest size, and the most impressive hides/pelts. It was an extremely lucrative industry, and Trailer trash redneck boers went from rags to riches for many afrikaners. The big moment came when eccentric americans/euros discovered the equally eccentric Colour Variants of blackened Springboks and golden wildebeests. Now THESE animals were exotic as frick. The farmers/huntmasters saw $$$$ and charged double, triple and quadrouple, but the americans/bongs/euros payed gladly, because remember, the Rand was peanuts to them. Within a few short years the news spread to the entire industry, the fad had become a race to whom could breed the most exotic buck, and advertise them to rich yanks.

But beyond selling to just yanks, the auction value of these colour variant genetic defects skyrocketed. Suddenly many dirtpoor farmers in butfrick nowhere, whom were about to shoot the albino or blackened to cull it from the herd, could sell their "junk" on the auction for 10 -20 times their natural's price. Farmers began to deliberately breed these colour varians; golden wildebeest were sought out by lower class farmers, and sold for fat stacks on the wild game auction market to rich farmers so that they could accumulate entire herds of just colour variants. More experiments continued, liker copper Rooibokke, and copper wildebeests: it became a race to become the 1st south afircan Frankenstein.

Here is a photo gallery of Colour Variants

http://www.wynandwildlife.co.za/Hunting-colour-variants-South-Africa/Photo-gallery/index.html


DRAMATIC PUBLIC REACTION TO THE COLOURING OF WILG GAME IN THE HUNTING INDUSTRY:

As colouring the herds of bucks became more prominent and widespread, and not an obscure rare eccentric hobby, the wider hunting public, and civilian public became outraged. For many of the religious in RSA, this was an abomination and an affront to nature. Many christians and muslims felt that the farmers championing colouring of bucks were arrogant and playing God. That they were disturbing the natural order.

Other animal lovers and naturalists protested the deliberate colouring, as they felt this was similar to the fad of people breeding dogs to look cute, when the particular form of their noses literally gave them breathing and skeletal structure problem in life. Unlike many cattle farming related selection, which focussed on choosing the members which were best immune against diseases, the colouring variants in these ranches were distinctly giving the coloured variants a natural disadvantage. Now most of these bucks lived in private game ranches away from predators like lions, but the public felt it morally wrong. Additionally because coloured defects like blackened Springboks were so rare, they would end up with above normal incest breeding rates for these few 1/1500 rare specimens, meaning that entire blackened Springbok encampments would have above normal health issues, all for the sake for sport and trophy hunting

https://medium.com/@patrickuklinski/the-moral-dilemma-of-breeding-pugs-9516c460d611

Normal South Africans, especially black peeps saw this exuberant display of wealth as grotesque and felt that whites were now rich and showing off, while many of them still suffered through the mire of enduring poverty.

The "Biltong Jagters", or meat hunters, people who hunted not for trophy sport, but to actually eat the bucks, didn't hold favourable views of the new direction the hunting industry was going. Many felt that it wasn't pure to hunt coloured variansts, and felt that the meat/biltong of a blackened Springbok and a natural springbok was the same in volume and tasted the same. But would cost you 5-10 times more. They were also pissed as the continued favouring of foreigners had dramatically increased the cost of hunting within the space of a decade, as hunting Lodges started following dollar prices and became "hunting tourist traps". Additionally coloured variants sometimes became so prolific that some ranches wouldn't even have natural staple bucks like Blesboks and Impalas available. Point is, the Biltong Jagters/ Meat Hunters were sneeding cuz they were being monetarily cucked out of their hobby/lifestyle

Other dramatic sneeding involved the hatred that Vegans of RSA had for all things hunting related. The increased prominence of the Hunting Industry also made them sneed in proportion, especially with the slowcooking national drama of Coloured Variants being unpopular for many different reason for many different demographics in the country. But of course the lure of $$$$ made all the huntmasters and farmers ignore the envy of their fellow countrymen.

https://africageographic.com/stories/hunting-colour-game/

https://www.africahunting.com/threads/a-hunt-for-gold-colour-variant-animals-to-hunt-or-not.16556/


THE PYRAMID IS BUILT:

The coloured variants became so lucrative that ranch farmers now began to breed them, not for hunting from yanks, but for selling. At one point a man would pay R50 000 for one fricking golden wildebeest, just so that he could have it breed with other natural females in the hope it would produce more golden offspring. The bitcoin would- , sorry I mean the Coloured Variants would be able to breed and bring more coloured variants, thus the exorbitant auction prices were deemed worth it for farmers looking to get in on the game of selling to yanks. More and more exotic colour variants were bred and sold for the sake of obtaining a massive and lucratice increase in resale value. And for those ranchers who started earliest, they did become filthy rich, or at least by RSA boer redneck standards, climbing up from basically nothing into a previously unknown amount of obscene wealth.

This would continue from 2000 all the way to 2010, things were great, or al least great until the yanks and Bongs were still interested in the Colour variants. You see this entire explosion into the hunting industry from 2000-2010 was based on the assumption that foreign hunters would continue to be interested indefinitely. But then shit hit the fan. :marseytwerkingfast:


THE ROWLAND WARD TURBO CUCKS THE ENTIRE SOUTH AFRICAN HUNTING INDUSTRY:

https://www.taxidermyafrica.com/page/sci-rowland-ward-trophy-minimums

The Rowland Ward is an international wild game trophy acknowledgement group which defines trophy grade hunted bucks and other wild game like boars, based on the minimum size of their horns or tusks or bodysizes. Burger and Bong international hunters, especially trophy hunters take their standards and adknowledgements very seriously, and tends to hunt only wild game which are according to the Rowland Ward standards for the usual international bragging rights. Rowland Wards are also usually a very pro conservation group, and tends to only acknowledge hunted animals from non-endangered species or animals hunted from regions where their populations are stable and not under threat. For many years the Coloured Variant farmers had attempted to get Rowland to oficially acknowledge their coloureds as Rowland Ward tier trophy animals, but their decision would sit in limbo for nearly a decade.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16823319003136919.webp

https://www.peterflack.co.za/hunt-conservation-pyramid-schemes/

2014! The apocalypse! :marseytwerking::marseytwerking::marseytwerking: Rowland Ward refused to acknowledge Colour Variants! Because Rowland Ward wouldn't award prestige to hunted Coloureds, many Burgers and Bongs would overnight not give a shit. Most of them were trophy hunters, and seeked strange game to put next to their fireplace, but many many of them also hunted specifically for all the Rowland Ward worthy wild game for the ultimate peepee measuring contest. And if an animal didn't get a Rowland Ward trophy, the yanks weren't interested. It was like pulling the bathtub plug :marseytoasterbath:

Overnight, the Hunting Industry in RSA crashed. Many many farmers bought Coloured variants for the sake of reselling in the future, based on the hope that yanks would buy from them, but suddenly there was virtually zero market for foreigners: yank trophy hunters want Roland Wards as the ultimate prize, now suddenly a copper Springbok, or a Golden Wildebeest is just an much worth it to a yank as their naturals. Sure the dollar was powerful, but most yanks were still middleclass, and they weren't about pay the equivalent of R50 000 for one buck. Remember some of these animals were sold on the RSA auction at moronic rates of 50-100 times the value of their naturals. Many farmers were completely burned. Within months the auction was saturated with blackened Springboks which nobody wanted, and every stupid latecoming farmer into this unintentional pyramid scheme found themselves holding the bag of crumpled wealth.

Massive drama ensued in which Meat Hunters jeered at the misfortune of the people they thought had poisened the Hunting Industry beyond their monetary means. Massive slapfights :slapfight::slapfight::slapfight: and sneeding all around. One of my uncles in Limpopo was deeply burned since he bought Golden Wildebeests at high prices JUST before the market crashed, he was very unlucky. He wasn't bankrupt but he was set back a big deal.

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There's some turbo cope in the comments of the pyramid article:

https://www.peterflack.co.za/hunt-conservation-pyramid-schemes/


AFTERMATH:

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/game-and-wildlife/rise-fall-future-colour-variants/

So uh yeah, that's about it. There's still coloured variants of Springboks, Blesboks, Wildebeest and any buck you can think of and can be contained in barbed or electric wire. But now in post 2020 they are seldom exorbitant, and often only 1.5-2 times the value of their natural peers. Yanks still hunt coloureds, as they are an anomaly, but obviously won't pay much more than naturals. The hunting industry has since recovered and is still going strong, both as a Tourism magnet, and as a producer of Biltong/Meat exports. Unfortunately hunting is still now an upper middle class hobby, as the sheer cost of Hunting lodges rent and imported ammunition is very expensive. I'm glad my father took me to many gorgeous wilderniss in South Africa while we had the chance, cuz it's out of my pay grade at the moment. Hopefully I become a good surveyor hey!

Anyways, Good Day! :marseybeanadorable:

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Reported by:

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Background Infomation :#marseyreading:

Chakabers is a African moid instagram influencer with over a million followers on his instagram. He travels around taking pictures in Africa. This website describes him as spreading social justice by:

producing content on pan-Africanism, spirituality and education, millennial humor and vegan lifestyle. His content also includes his own first-hand contributions to improving the lives of under-resourced global communities.

Social justice? :marseystonetoss:


This is Africa :#marseykente:

Our story begins with Chakabers taking a trip to the great pyramids in Egypt as a way to return back to his roots of being a former kang (more on this later). But during his time there he encountered trouble. In a reply to a now deleted tweet he claims:

I got called n*gger in Egypt, Abt and now you clearly a Caucasian Arab think itā€™s ok to be racist! I will report this to Twitter for racism.

:marseypearlclutch: I cant believe this! Why would the Arabs (Egyptians) do this to this poor African man?!? Well it turns out that Chakabers during his trip to the pyramids, conveniently left out some details that would change the story. On his Instagram he posted this picture:

https://i.imgur.com/fcv73xL_d.webp?maxwidth=9999&fidelity=grand

For those of you who are :marseyautism: typically when going to historical sites you don't want to climb on the stuff there. I know it looks fun, but it's against the rules and the local population wont like it. :marseysad:

Shortly after posting the previous picture, Chakabers posts this picture to his instagram:

https://i.imgur.com/ZS1DzDf_d.webp?maxwidth=9999&fidelity=grand

Here's a video in where in the first couple seconds shows what happened in the intial encounter. You can stop watching once the foid starts talking because I summarize what sheā€™s saying in one tenth of the time. Foids lmao:

In the video Chakabers calls the Egyptian moid telling him to leave an Arab. Chakabers is also shocked that he has to leave "his ancestors temple". Chakabers goes on to purity test the man asking of he's really an African. Chakaber says to the man "Your skin doesn't look African and that it says Arabs". Typically, Egyptians don't like being called Arabs because it's considered racist or xenophobic or something like that.

Additionally Chakabers posted this picture but I wasnā€™t able to find context on when or where it occurred. I assume it's after the intial encounter,

But either way highlights his attitude toward mayo Egyptians (Arabs):

https://i.imgur.com/t5UyLM5_d.webp?maxwidth=9999&fidelity=grand


Some lore and the Arab question :#marseyimam:

If you haven't picked up on it, Chakabers has certain feelings toward Egyptians that many would call "problematic". Chakabers doesn't believe that Egyptians are the actual Egyptians but just mayo/arab colonizers. Chakabers unironically believes in the idea of "We wuz kangs" being reality that is suppressed by these chuds. In a tweet he posted around the same time as his trip he wrote:

Rn whenever Afro people who are doing their research, speak of the atrocities committed by Caucasian Arabs who trafficked us, we are called Islamophobic, if we speak about the structural violence committed by the Caucasian Jewish we are called antisemitic. Yā€™all truthophobic

Further proof is of this claim is provided in a hilarious tiktok he posted on his account. In the video, Chakabers is walking around an Egyptian museum filming the statues with the caption "No nose. We all know why" with spooky music playing the background. Implying the mayos took the noses off so kangs wouldn't realize the truth

Chakabers has also gotten into previous related incidents unrelated to this one. Some of which include: Doxxing a someli doctor that promoted the covid vaccine, "Questioning" the coof vaccine, and Islamophobic comments (yikes). So he's a bit of a controversial :chudsey:


Always double down no matter what :#marseygambling:

After Chakabers posted the pictures to his instagram he started picking up hate from mostly Egyptian people since they were the most affected. While most would just apologize and try to move on from an incident like this, Chakabers has a different approach. Double down and call the Egyptians racist colonizers. He tweets out:

Rn a bunch of colonizers are trying to come for me because they donā€™t want to actually admit that they are racist, colourist colonizers. You will not gaslamp me, I have videos of the mad racist Iā€™ve experienced in North Africa, by straight haired, nearly white people.

Obviously many Egyptians wouldn't take to kindly to being called racist colonizers so slapfights breakout on who's pigment was actually that of the Pharoahs:

the ā€œcolonizersā€ in the question look at them, they ainā€™t YOU

Acting the victim while being the colorist is the funniest part. Coptiks are not consider white by no one but confuse black people.

:#marseyblackface:

You're just a grifter trying to earn money from insecure people, by pushing anti-Egyptian rhetoric to ppl who are wrongly taught by ppl like you that they are Egyptian. You insult real Egyptians out of spite, and put your feet on sacred temple walls. What kind of respect is that?

In a lot of the tweets you'll find a lot of followers of Chakabers ideology posting boomerbook-lite "memes" making some vague connection implying that African kangs were actually the real kangs. Weirdly enough no one actually provides a source that isn't some shitty jpeg :marseyhmm:

Chakabers further goes on his tweet spree and says:

These are the same colonisers who had all the monuments sent all over Europe. These are the same people who are grave robbers, yā€™all know where your sultans and Imams are buried, you donā€™t dig them up and disrespect their bodies. Iā€™m from the Caribbean, we donā€™t do that our dead

To be honest I dont really know what he's talking about or how it applies to his other arguments but GO OFF KANG. Funny enough someone then posts the picture of him hanging off the tombstone walls to counter his point about "disrespecting dead bodies".

Chakabers then shifts his position to actually not giving a shit about North Africa because they're all racist:

All these North African caucus, I stay in west, central & east Africa, I donā€™t care for the north because of the racism there. Colorism is running it right now & you treat dark skinned people like sh*t, I saw the way you were treating South Sudanese, the creators of Ancient Egypt

People in the tweet begin unironically using physiognomy to actually determine the descendants of Pharoahs:

south sudanese are of Nilotic ancestry, they werenā€™t the creators of ancient egypt, nor do you have anything to do with them, yet you went into an Egyptian temple and said ā€œmy ancestorsā€ you have a severe identity crisis, i recommend taking a DNA test

Not all Africans have that nose shape tho

Finally, Chakabers ends his argument by tweeting out a link to the Wikipedia page to the Trans-Saharan slave trade and says:

For all the colonisers in my inbox


What happens next?

This story is still relatively fresh so we'll have to wait and see what happens next. Currently some Egyptians are taking this seriously and trying to get Chakabers banned from coming to Egypt:

we also reported this to TourismandAntiq for racism and vandalism and working on you hopefully never stepping foot in OUR country again

I wont lie I hope our Egyptians kang gets banned from his homeland. The drama that will arise from that would be amazing. I'll keep you kings (kangs) updated on the situation. Until next time!

:#marseypharaoh::!#marseycapypharaoh:

@JoeBiden !soren !merari !effortposters !schizomaxxxers @SmallNips discuss

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Introduction


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Depending on the ability of your pattern recognition skills :marseyautism:, you've possibly noticed the growing counter-narrative to the overpopulation discourse. Where many people are worried about the falling birth rates and worry that the current birthing rates won't be able to sustain our current population and will ultimately result in the human population levels collapsing in on itself.


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There lies a dichotomy of people who attempt to address falling birthrates. On one hand, we have poor and stupid people birthing more children due to their poor understanding of what a condom is :marseypoor:, while on the other side of the spectrum, we have rich neurotic Silicon Valley workers bearing multiple children and pouring millions into research for solutions to address this issue :marseyelonmusk:.

While a majority of drama comes from nihilists and antinatalists, today we're only gonna focus on the other side, specifically one couple in particular. And how their obsession with birth rates took hold of their entire personalities and led to the formation of their momentously neurodivergent plans to save humanity.


"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for neurodivergent inbred children."


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The below-average-looking couple pictured above is comprised of Simone and Malcolm Collins. They describe themselves as pronatalists and are wholeheartedly committed to resolving the falling birth rates in several ways. Naturally, for their first course of action, the Collins has decided on having anywhere between 7 to 13 children. Additionally, they're attempting to shift the culture from people having no babies to having lots of them. Yet, before we discuss how they came to be their views we need to delve into their past.

A true Reddit love story :marseywholesome:

Simone and Malcolm came from very different backgrounds. Malcolm was a troublesome kiddo who was sent to Military school by his formerly wealthy father (who was a massive coomer, Dude was married five times and squandered his family fortune throughout these marriages). Leaving Malcolm with unresolved daddy issues. Simone however, always described herself as the odd one out in her family home:

Simone, meanwhile, came from polyamorous, tai-chi-practicing, hippie parents in Alameda, California. "I was kind of the black sheep of the family," she said. "Like, they would tell me to go out and drink and experiment, but I would rebel by staying home and doing my homework."

What a nerd :marseynerd2:

Simone wasn't always a pronatalist. She almost decided to become a childless femcel at the age of 24 after she got her heart broken (for the first time). But, Simone found the courage to not quit and assimilate into incel culture just yet, so she gave online dating a chance in hopes of meeting someone else:

Simone made a profile on OKCupid, where a picture of her dressed as a Stormtrooper in a sultry pose was catnip for the nerds of Silicon Valley, and rated her dates out of 50. After a string of 16s, Malcolm scored a 42. She made him promise to break up with her after four months. "I resent being in love with him," she said. "I was so disturbed when I fell for him."

The couple dated for a year and married each other after Malcolm proposed to Simone on Reddit through a proposal campaign (Link to proposal post). Malcolm knew that Jannies :marseyjanny: were sticklers for the rules and knew he couldn't outright post his marriage proposal without suffering the punishment of the mop. So he developed an elaborate scheme to post his proposal across several subreddits in hopes that it would blow up. And surprisingly, it worked and swept across multiple subs on Reddit. Malcolm was so proud of his achievement that he wrote his own article about it :marseyaward:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136053900741.webp


Descent into madness :marseyschizotwitch:

Both Simone and Malcolm went to elite business schools and ended up working for international business in Japan. It was during this time that Malcolm developed an neurodivergent obsession after learning about the collapsing birthrates. A majority of the worry was fueled by the general publics' insouciance response to it. Malcolms' infectious mania about the birth rates soon spread to Simone, and the couple acknowledged that action had to be taken to minimize the damages.

The couple arrived at the decision that they would bear several children (Anywhere from 7 to 13 of them :marseybib:), yet Simone suffered from fertility issues and was rapidly approaching the day of the empty egg carton, thus the couple briskly devised a plan to ensure that no eggs would be left to spoil.

They began freezing any available embryos Simone had in what they unironically termed "The year of the harvest". However, the troubled couple couldn't risk having a dramatard :marseydramautist: as a child, so they proceeded to have every single embryo genetically tested for risk factors which they put into an Excel sheet:

Simone pulled up a spreadsheet filled with red and green numbers. Each row represented one of their embryos from the sixth batch, and the columns a variety of relative risk factors, from obesity to heart disease to headaches.

But the neurodivergent calculations didn't stop there. The couple also looked at and primarily focused on selecting embryos that had a relatively low risk of different mental disorders such as depression, anxiety, and ADHD, to ensure the best quality child. The couple often referred to themselves as "eugenics hipsters"

Despite, The Collins committing themselves to have several children, the task of salvaging the decreasing birth rates with only the two of them was beyond their means due to what the Collins thought were troubling aspects of modern-day culture that counteracted their goals:

The Collins worries that the overlap between the types of people deciding not to have children with the part of the population that values things like gay rights, education for women, and climate activism ā€” traits they believe are genetically coded ā€” is so great that these values could ultimately disappear.

With this predicament, the Collins deemed it necessary to ensure that the teach their little kiddos the value of having large families. They hope that each of their kids will also have anywhere from 7 to 13 children and that this trend will continue for about 13 generations until half of the worlds population soley consists of the Collins family :marseyshook:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360544618835.webp

On final note,

Due to their traumatic experiences in grade school, The Collins have also created the Collins Institute a online school program for the young and self motivated neurodivergents that allows them to choose what they want to learn. It features regular courses such as the math and sciences, financial literacy classes, and even courses on "how to make friends" (lmao)


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360550648835.webp


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Nazi chuds or just neurodivergent nerds? :marseythinkorino:

Now before we get to the drama, I feel that it's important to discuss how the Collins identify. Because shortly, you'll see chuds calling the Collins soy libs and libs calling them fascist mayo nazis. But what are they?

They claim they only slightly identify with the conservative party but stray away from associating themselves with the "crazy chuds":

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360567074778.webp

Nonetheless, if you scroll through their Twitter long enough you'll see constant criticism levied against both progressives and conservatives (although more toward progressives) about not being concerned with popping out enough babies:


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Source

Birth rates? :marseystonetoss:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360580409918.webp


Source


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Source

They also identify as secular Calvinists. More specifically they believe that certain people are chosen to be superior and that free will is gay and fake:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360593328567.webp


What did they mean by this?

:#marseythonk:

Simone added, after noting that her Jewish grandmother escaped Nazi-occupied France. "I'm not eliminating people. I mean, I'm eliminating from my own genetic pool, but these are all only Malcolm and me."

Either way, I can't confirm if they're covert neurodivergent nazis, but in my humble opinion they just seem closer to nerds who only care about popping out as many babies as humanly possible

:marseyshrug::!marseybib::!marseybib::!marseybib::!marseybib::!marseybib::!marseybib::!marseybib:


The Controversial Collins

The couple shares a Twitter account which is exclusively used for pro-baby messaging. But their weird and controversial takes more often than not lead to ridicule from their dissenters:


Swolemisia :!#marseybuff:

Unironically a fair amount of their criticisms go toward swoletards and those who don't look like malnourished twinks


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136059846978.webp


Link to tweet

You can give me all the data you want, Iā€™m not going to entertain words from a man who uses a picture of himself like this unironically. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I thought they were lesbians


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136060879917.webp


Just remember chuds this is who calls you unhealthy and plans to replace you :marseysmug2:

There was an article written about this guy and his pro-natalist eugenicist movement. Look at what these freaks named their kids

Why is it that people I see who support eugenics always have some kind of defect? In this case they both wear glasses. Astigmatism is NOT the sign of "superior" genes

They are also ugly as frick

The article they linked also didn't support what they were saying but that didn't stop the Collins from doubling down and saying that was their intended purpose:

Dear Twitter: Good catchā€”we misread an article we cited. While it did show bodybuilders die younger we overstated how much younger. We were more interested in pissing people off on the internet than accuracy, not expecting the tweet to go quite as viral as it did. (1/7) šŸ§µ


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They go on to spew a lot of words about how :marseyakshually: they were still right, but anti-science chuds weren't buying it:

ā€œWe were more interested in pissing people offā€ I hope these people get hit by a bus

:marseyshortbus::!marseynerd2::!marseysexylibrarian:

In one more attempt to calm the outrage, the Collins claim they just did it as a prank


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841360619749062.webp


Surely, people will forgive them :marseyclueless:

I am going to raise my kid to kick Torsten's butt. Gonna create a special breed of super bully just to beat up your dork kids.

If you're wondering what the heck a Torsten is it's one of the names of his kids along with brother Octavian, and their sister Titan Invictus. These kiddos really aren't gonna make it out of elementary school :!marseydicklet::!marseywhirlyhat:

Malcolm Collins also takes shots at high T males calling them genetic failures by claiming it's normal to be low T when you have kids:

Men's testosterone levels drop when they secure stable, committed partners and again when they have kids. When you see a jacked guy in his mid-30s, youā€™re looking at someone whose hormones are responding to a failure scenario (failure to secure a stable partner + reproduce).

While you can have both high T and a lot of kids (Tate claims to have 10) by supplementing, reducing emotional investment, or going poly, kids of less-invested fathers are more likely to drop their culture and succumb to the sterilizing memes so prevalent in our society.

Testosterone shortens your lifespan (it is a major reason why men donā€™t live as long as women). Menā€™s bodies are biologically geared to make them disposable, short-lived fighting machines in societies in which only the strongest men reproduce.

When menā€™s biology detects the presence of a dedicated breeding partner it says, ā€œoh great, now I donā€™t need to be set to go-big-or-die-trying mode.ā€

Hhm I don't know if I trust the science on this one

:#!marseysquint:

Either way, the genetic deadends seethe at Malcolm over this tweet

It's clear that you do not lift weights. Athletic married men with kids who still train and lift weights can keep their testosterone level high. Try reading the works by davidasinclair or PeterAttiaMD .

:soyjak:Do toddlers count as weights?

Your wife will be 100% leaving you at some point in the future.

:#marseyhesright:

Why is EVERYONE on this site obsessed with E and T!? Incels/manosphere, "health" gurus, these fricking weirdos and certain types of trans people. They do not rule your entire life nor determine your personality. Cortisol is far more impactful, but they never talk about that.

Why does no one ever talk about muh cortisol

:#soycry:

JFC dude, just say you don't like to lift. Coming up with some sorry excuse that men who do lift are failures are being and getting good partners is major cope.


How do we reach the kids?

Unfortunately for the zealous Collins, their baby propaganda often falls short of reaching younger folx due to the Collins being out of touch with reality and very cringe within their messaging:

We valorize those who party hardā€”like, theyā€™re crazy but hard core and we respect that. Let's take it a step further with those who parent hard. Like: "I haven't slept and I'm splattered with masticated marshmallow, but let's GO MAKE A PILLOW FORT! WOO!"

This shit isn't fetch bruh frfr no šŸ§¢

:#marseyzoomer:

Whenever one of our kids comes up with a new word and we adopt it into the family lexicon (latest are Becausent, Bawawawa, and Dogo) we have to Google it just to make sure it isnā€™t also some slur we have never heard of.

Wholesome. I'm gonna have kids just to teach them slurs :marseyracistgrandpa:


General cope :marseysneed:


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Source

:#marseyseethe:


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Source

:#marseypoor:

We always gag when we see nerds online lionizing the space hippies/communists of Star Trek's Federation. Fortunately, fertility rates indicate we are much more likely to see the Terran Federation

Could be poe's law but let's save everyone the trouble and assume you genuinely mean this. Your brains are completely dry rotted. I feel sorry for anyone who is going to have to deal with whatever insanity you manage to force down your children's throats, hope they disown this.


Reddit Drama

Malcolms Reddit account

Simones reddit account

Linked above are both Malcolms and Simones Reddit accounts (aptly named SirTechnocracy and LadyTechnocracy :marseynerd2:) which they use to this day. Going through their most recent accounts we find that they are often in the comments under posts about them, defending their beliefs. Even though they seem to have the standard persona of Redditors, they aren't well liked by them :marseysnoo:


Mayopeopletwitter :#marseymayo:

Simone & Malcolm Collins - WASP eugenicists who look like stick figures & worship Elon

I love smug people whose children havenā€™t had time to develop their own opinions, beliefs, and behaviors. Get back to me when your kid is wise enough to distance themselves from you. That will slap the Whereā€™s Waldo glasses right off your faces.

It's almost as good as Redditors' imaginative fantasies

:#marseyagree:

Congratulations, you diddled somebody and got them pregnant. Whoā€™s trying to talk about overpopulation anyways?

Overpopulation is pretty much bullshit. We have plenty of room and material, just horrible peppered who canā€™t be bothered having them distributed effectively.

Thereā€™s no more water in the western United States. There are many signs that we have overused our resources. Hardly bullshit.

:#marseyshook:

Wow, I can't believe the whole western United States is completely out of water. Why is no talking about this???

Did this guy just out himself as a wimp while trying to insult other people? I'm not sure what his deal is here. Has to be some projection, but is he jelly, or does he want a muscular man in his life?

He's insecure but can't just cope with it, (or go to the gym) he needs to have a reason he could never be like everyone else. Or he sees no reason to work on himself because he's latched down a woman with a child. Any way you split this, it's a cry for validation or outing himself as misogynistic or a wimp, like you said.

The Redditor recoils in fear in the presence of Ɯbersoysch

:!#soyreddit::#chadsoy:


Redscarepod :#maojak:

Imagine basing your life on an Idiocracy plot point

why are tech demons so obsessed with the roman empire

Why don't more people ask this question? I think it's kind of a parallel to people who revere the idea of western canon or classical music; it's a fetishization of "Western Civilization". Rome has been identified as its apex by classics nerds. moreover, the explanation that it ended was degeneracy and barbarian hordes, makes it appeal to reactionaries who feel like the rest of society can turn on them for having land and wealth, and also guys who like history because it can provide a grand narrative and identity but don't really have the capacity for nuance to challenge narratives they like. Ancient Rome, with it's history of military expansionism and downfall, appeals to STEM lords who also equate art with marble statues.

:#marseylongpost:

Simone Collins also appears in the thread defending her way of life but the commie chuds aren't having it:

TIL reddit pings your email if someone mentions one of your accounts, hence me ending up here this morning. Hey y'all! I'm the ugly, poorly-aging, body-pillow lady you're apparently talking about. A hot take I recently read re: Idiocracy (and love): "In a very important way, Idiocracy is actually superior to our world. Unlike our world, Idiocracy is a meritocracy ruled by rational people who know about their shortcomings. Remember that President Camacho realized that he was not smart enough and picked the most intelligent person in the world, as determined by an IQ test, to fix the nation's problems." I don't think IQ should be a determining factor for who gets to solve the world's problems (I think whoever solves the world's problems = whoever has the gumption, hustle, willpower, etc. to just step up and frickin' solve them), but it provides some interesting nuance to the story.


Conclusion

If you ever doubted that you wouldn't be able to find an neurodivergent gf with a breeding fetish, let me there is hope for you

:#marseywereback:


Additional Readings and Videos about the Collins :marseyreading:

Podcast interview featuring Malcolm

He sounds exactly like you would expect lmao

Podcast interview with Simone Collins

Can super babies save the world

Meet the ā€˜eliteā€™ couples breeding to save mankind

The 'Bizarrely Authoritarian' U.S. Education System Inspired This Husband and Wife to Co-Found a 'Genius School' for Future Entrepreneurs and Leaders

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In case anyone needs to verify Chis Hadfield's credentials: He's the f'ing man. We need more charismatic science and engineering leaders :marscientist: like him.

What now Anti-Muskers?? you gonna disagree with DA F'ING MAN?! I didn't think so :marseysmug2:

Insert "Two buttons meme". Does Reddit choose "Everything Musk does is bad", or "Chris Hadfield is literally Jesus Christ, even Keanu kneels before him"?

Hate the community of this website sometimes

:#marseyhesright:

Itā€™s funny how the narrative is spun when itā€™s a company ran by someone everyone loves to hateā€¦ congrats to Elon and everyone at SpaceX.

šŸšØšŸšØšŸšØšŸšØ UH OH CHUD ALERT šŸšØšŸšØšŸšØšŸšØ

I hate Musk but I gotta give space X this one. They like to do these launches, their philosophy is to do them and collect data about what went wrong

of course you would say this now antimusker

A lot of braindead takes in this thread. Really waking me up to the fact that it's not just conservatives that are morons.

:marseywtf2: ARE THE CHUDS RISING UP?

To be clear, I hate Elon Musk with a burning passion, however, this is how rocket development generally goes. Basically, the massive stresses of rocket flight means a million complex systems have to work properly in an incredibly intense environment to work. Rocket development is a series of stress tests until you reach a point where things no longer explode. To have a new rocket design that has very impressive lifting capabilities manage to get that far on its first actual flight is pretty good.

:marseyelonpaypig:

this is like saying "TO BEEE CLEAR I AM A CIS WOMAN in TWOX"

On one hand i really don't care for Musk. On another im excited for the steps this has helped the industry take and if it helps brilliant minds and ideas of the future im all for it.

Yeah bud hes been craving your approval :marseyxd:


ALL THESE COMMENTS ARE IN THE NEGATIVES, DID THE !chuds WIN? !nonchuds HOW DID YA'LLAH END UP AT THE BOTTOM!?

The launch is interesting but I find it so difficult to separate my disdain for Musk and the achievements of SpaceX.

You better clap and cheer if you work for Elon, or you'll be out of a job come Monday

Hate to see what he would call ā€œUnsuccessfulā€ā€¦

>For some reason, I really donā€™t like this guy.

The issue isnt that people dont want to explore and learn. Its that a private company is being funded by publix money and they will develop things with a primary objective of profiting off those developments in the future. Capitalism has absolutely corrupted space exploration and working people have issues that need fixing, seeing money that shouldnt be going to private corporations blow up in the air is a reminder that this isnt for the pure honest search for discovery but rather the corrupt greed of the owners of capital

just the title alone seems like he's overcompensating with the Trumpian "enormously"

propaganda

Yep Musk paid this spacesuitcel to say good things :marseymerchant:

But my fav so far is this

[I donā€™t get why this is an achievement? We are cheering on a company that is actively working against science and many experts. The guy in charge of it is a neo-nazi butthole who doesnā€™t know what to do with his money. It probably polluted a huge area because methane is horrible for the atmosphere and ecological communities. And if we look at NASA, sure you can say that SLS was slow to develop, but they got a lot more out of being successful on the first run than they did when they threw shit at a wall a saw what stuck.]

another

Welfare rockets. Space X is privatized profits and publicly funded. Another of elons scams, stealing from the public and littering space with debris.

OH BTW LOTS OF COMMIE SEETHE TOO IN THERE CHECK IT OUT THEY POP OUT LIKE CARP POSTS DURING SLOW DAY

Ya, Iā€™m a life time space flight fan, and SpaceX has done some amazing things, but Iā€™m just not buying that this was success. Success was if it entered orbit like all the Saturn5s did. Sure they might be able to fix what went wrong, but engines failing is a design flaw. The PR people donā€™t need to over hype the parts of the launch that went well. I know one thing, itā€™s going to be a long long haul before they put astronauts on this rocket bomb.

That makes no sense. You donā€™t build a hundred million dollar or billion dollar rocket and then cheer when it explodes. People need to use their common sense. It was a disaster.

:s#oyjaktantrum:

There is so much more seethe :marseyseethe: at the bottom is delicious

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16821072938527477.webp

In the end I would warmly welcome Musk and Chris into the !illuminati

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So I occasionally watch Doom :marseydoomguy1: videos on Youtube and yesterday this video came up as recommended:

I have no idea who this guy is, but I had heard of ZDoom (https://zdoom.org). For those that don't know there are multiple "source ports" for Doom, basically reimplementations of the the original game engine but made for modern operating systems with new features added. ZDoom (new versions are called GZDoom I think) is one of these "source ports".

I decided to give the above video a watch and basically this guy makes Doom maps or something but he's leaving the ZDoom forums for good because of their mishandling of sexual abuse / grooming allegations against one of the prominent members of the ZDoom community: Marisa (https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Marisa_Lago). I just want to re-state again that I have no clue who any of these people are. This Marisa has been accused by multiple victims of engaging with them in sexually explicit chat while knowing that they were underage.

What makes this a little unusual is that this Marisa is repeatedly referred to as a "she". I had a hard time believing that a foid (female) was into a 35 year old first person shooter video game, so a brief google search turned up this: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1239571#p1239571 Looks like we are dealing with a foid (male) unsurprisingly. So the thing that never happens has happened again.

To make things more dramatic the forum administrators apparently tried to keep this underwraps and made private comments that were derogatory against the accusers. Hilariously the admins of this forum are apparently buddies with some mods of Reddit Doom subreddits and they work in tandem to ban people across the board and they call their little group "The Fun Police".

Apparently the guy who made the above video was banned afterwards but has since been unbanned.

The forum admins have also finally released a statement and confirmed that they have banned this Marisa (foid (male) (groomer)): https://youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjRiQWl1WjY2dTdTOHkwT2x1QW92TWpRLU1hd3xBQ3Jtc0ttbzlLekJDc1h1WnRvMmd1Y0liSE0wSUZ4OHBfMUlwS1MwaFdncDhMQmJmN3dQTGJJaUhwRnJ2Z2gzUnl6dk5iVWg1Z25lUGN1S0JBRXlyeEtmUVdUVGVocHg0Z1BpSS1PQUxNN2YtY2FyQTRYaFVKWQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.zdoom.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D1239455&v=h5YrdarJ_7U

Summary of the accusations from the admin statement:

Marisa the Magician was accused of being a child groomer and p-dophile in /r/DoomMods (the thread has since been deleted). The accusation came with a number of screenshots that displayed clearly sexual interactions between Marisa and a person who at some point claimed they were 17 years old. Among other things, the screenshots contained a message from Marisa where she said that her own first relationship was at the age of 18 when her partner was 14 years old.

Their summary of their findings:

As mentioned, it was Marisa herself who brought the post to our attention, so we proceeded to discuss it with her, trying to find out as much as possible. We found out the following:

ā€¢ The screenshots were real, but presented in an incomplete and non-chronological manner (possibly on purpose).

ā€¢ The accuser had approached Marisa first and was aggressively flirtatious. Multiple logs and screenshots showed them being the proactive party.

ā€¢ At some point the accuser also claimed that they solicited erotic images with other users, including a 12-year-old boy, and shared those images with Marisa, unprompted. (Marisa presented us with logs of that interaction, images edited out.)

ā€¢ The accuser's age was not mentioned until several months into their relationship. Marisa, in a display of obviously very poor judgement, apparenty hadn't thought to ask about their age earlier.

ā€¢ Arguably the most darning fact was a message by Marisa saying she used to have a relationship with a 14-year-old while she herself was 18. Marisa's reaction to that was that she simply could not remember who she was talking about in that message, and in fact could not remember having any relationship at the age of 18.

I think a fair summary of the above would be: "the screenshots are real but the child forced themselves onto the :marseytrain2: and the :marseytrain2: has also confirmed being in a relationship with a 14 year old".

So even after banning the groomer the admins are quite clearly still trying to defend "her".

Despite the investigation feeling incomplete, we decided to ban Marisa. It seemed like the best course of action for two reasons:

1. If the accusations were true, we obviously couldn't keep an individual like that around. ZDoom community is not a place for pedophilia and sexual abuse.

2. If the accusations were false, she would become a target anyway, and by proxy the ZDoom community would become a target as well.

These poor admins (who do it for free) were forced into banning Marisa. :marseycrying:

The :marseytrain2: that they've bent over backwards for then proceeds to chimp out:

That belief soon dwindled. Marisa replied to the original subreddit thread, which did not make the situation any clearer and did not make her look any better. She did not release a public statement, but later she did act out on her Twitter, going as far as stating that her boyfriend was "willing to track every single one of them down" (referring to the people who started targetting her by that point).

Now the admins are buttmad that the :marseytrain2: lashed out at them:

She displayed disregard for the safety of the ZDoom community and for all the benefit of the doubt extended to her. She also suspected that some of the people who were willing to assist her were, in fact, trying to sabotage her. Marisa did not care about the people she put in front of her to shield herself from accusations, she cared about herself.

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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: South African Wild Game High Court Drama - Snotsickness and the great Mass Culling of the Wildebeests

Greetings Dramastrags :marseyfsjal:

In South Africa, we have an extremely strong and prolific hunting and gun culture amongst afrikaners, especially compared to the pansy Bongs here. We have often been compared to the bugerland Southeners whom are all gunsexuals and decorate their homesteads with wild cured skins and taxidermic monstrosities. Some say it's because the early dutch voortrekkers have had an almost one to one cultural frontiersmanship comparison to their burger counterpart rural people, since self reliance was needed to survive in the "wilderness", away from european civilizational amenities only found in cities, during the founding years of america.

Because my father and uncles are all avid hunters, and follow hunting related news, I've been exposed to various dramas related to the wild game and antelope industry of South Africa, of which brings a lot of foreign currency in the form of tourists and hunters from burgerland and europe, and other parts of the planet.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2351989418302336

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/game-and-wildlife/sa-hunting-poised-for-growth/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681821839927528.webp


Today I wanna talk about the great courtroom drama that occurred in 2017/2018.

From 2014 onwards there had been an increasing amount of court cases between agrieved farmers, regarding the spread of Snotsickness which were transmitted by wildebeest to neighbouring cattle camps, and which is a fatal disease for cattle. Wildebeest are carriers of the disease, but are not themselves affected by it. Now, Snotsickness had been known about since for like a 100 years, and the standard wisdom by experts was that at least a 1km distance was required to be kept between the wild game camps of Wildebeest and any farm cattle, especially by neighbouring farmers so as not to recklessly cause them financial damage, as since, if a cattle farmer found even one infected cow within their herd, it was extremely likely that they would have to cull the lot to prevent transmission, and would be extensive economic damage if not total financial ruination.

Pics of wildebeest: (wildebeests are those animals which trampled Simba's dad)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16818226899606497.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16818226897310836.webp

The 1 km rule became a legal requirement from 2014 onwards as several court hearings resulted in the wild game owners of vectors to be held responsible for not follwoing procedure to maintain safety. But everything changed when a courtroom ruling drama in the Gauteng High Court would result in national gnashing of teeth.


CONTEXT 1 : Snotsiekte/Snotsickness - Malignant Catarrhal Fever (MCF)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698299/

https://www.cpdsolutions.co.za/Publications/article_uploads/malignant_catarrhal_fever_april_2013.pdf

I know it sounds juvenile, but the name is pretty apt. The disease literally causes cattle and cows to drown in their own snot, as the virus forces a malfunction of the animal's mucus glands in their noses, and chokes them slowly and painfully to death. An extremely gruesome death for any animal.

What's important to know is that Wildebeest are immune to the effects of the disease itself, yet still acts like vectors - similar to that of the rats and flies which transmitted the Black/Bubonic plague from the far east into Europe. The bad and worse news is that there are no vaccines against MCF, and no medical counter agent. The only solution to stop the very infectious disease is containment, long distancing between camps/corrals and immediate culling of suspected infected wildebeest or cattle. Depending on the virus variant, cattle or sheep or other domesticated animals are vulnerable towards the transmission between animals.

In 2008 a study was made to test 304 wildebeest, and what they found was that the disease was transmitted between mother to foetus, so it was an intergenerational disease and wasn't going anywhere soon. The study also found that the Black wildebeest compared to the blue wildebeest was a "persistent carrier". Meaning the basterds remained infected till death, and transmitted the virus to the next generation, and remember the animals themselves were immune and unaffected by the disease they carried.

The virus is also transmitted by air debris, not just flies biting between the wildebeest and cattle hosts. The virus is even transmitted downstream if the wildebeest drinks upstream. Also the even worse worse news, is that if a mother cow survives to give birth, then her offspring is also infected. :marseybeanannoyed: Point is this is one b-word of a disease for farmers and vetenarians to try and deal with. Oh yeah MCF sometimes causes the cattle to go blind if it attacks their corneas. :marseycringe2:Hells bells

Anyways, the point of me rambling this disgusting virus off to you guys, is to bring home the point that the farmers whose cattle affected by this hellish disease tend to be really fricking mad, and there would invariably follow a civil lawsuit against the game farmer nearest him if it could be proven (with good or bad proof), that the wildebeest herd was the origin of the infection.


CONTEXT 2: Court Cases involving MCF

https://regsdienste.solidariteit.co.za/en/legal-view-when-malignant-catarrhal-fever-is-transmitted/

Here's a short excerpt from how prior to 2017/2018, CMF virus damage court case :slapfight::slapfight: :slapfight: used to go:


"In various rulings a lot of testimony has been put forward in this regard and various expert opinions have been accepted as the standard truth. One of these opinions highlighted by our courts and accepted as such, is that should the blue wildebeest be kept at least one kilometre away from the cattle, the probability that these blue wildebeest would infect the cattle with malignant catarrhal fever is minimal or even completely improbable. A general rule was therefore laid down by our courts that the blue wildebeest should stay one kilometre away from cattle.

In this case two farmers in Lephalale appeared in the local magistrateā€™s court with regard to a dispute about malignant catarrhal fever. A very important aspect was that the defendant in this case had been farming with game, including blue wildebeest, with the necessary permits since 2002. The other important aspect was the fact that the claimant, when he started his lease on the farm, was aware that the defendant had blue wildebeest and as an experienced farmer knew that blue wildebeest were carriers of malignant catarrhal fever and that it could have harmful consequences for his cattle farming. However, in spite of this he hired the land.

Both parties testified in court that they were of the opinion that the risk of malignant catarrhal fever being transmitted was minimal. According to the defendant, the owner of the game, he had since the year 2000 not had one case of malignant catarrhal fever, while for several years numerous other farmers adjacent to his farm were farming with cattle. The new cattle farmer now pitched up and suddenly there is a case, after there not having been a case for years.

The claimant, the new farmer, himself said that he had farmed next to another game farmer with blue wildebeest for years and there had never been any incident. Now that he had moved to a new farm, suddenly there is malignant catarrhal fever.

The claimant lost the case and appealed to the High Court of Northern Gauteng in Pretoria. The High Court ruled that the magistrateā€™s court in Lephalale had been correct by finding that the defendant was not liable for the damage suffered by the claimant.

The symptoms of malignant catarrhal fever are severe. It causes great suffering for the animals. Once an animal is infected, there is no medicine that will help; it is a fatal disease.

The magistrateā€™s court ruled that the claimant did not succeed in proving that it was the defendantā€™s blue wildebeest that transferred the disease and caused the cattle to die, as there was an adjoining farm where blue wildebeest were also being kept.

The High Court in Pretoria concurred with the finding of the magistrateā€™s court, but looked at more detail as to whether this game farmer might have been delict in his conduct and perhaps negligent. The court however found that it was not negligent per se to keep blue wildebeest. It is a given fact that malignant catarrhal fever are transmitted by these animals, but it is important to emphasise that the person who alleges that his cattle died due to malignant catarrhal fever contracted from the blue wildebeest of a specific owner, has to prove that it is this specific personā€™s blue wildebeest and according to the court negligence was not proved."

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SUMMARY FOR THE IMPATIENT: Guys leases land next to blue wildebeest encampment. Guy is aware of snotsuckness, and the associated risks. Cattle gets infected. Guy sues neighbour. Court tells him to GTFO. I mention this to make u guys understand why a lot of wildebeest wild game farmers were shocked and caught offgaurd by what would follow in 2019.


CONTEXT 3: Storm on the Legal Horizon

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/agri-news/south-africa/swartruggens-snotsiekte-case-postponed-february/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16818218390627563.webp

But a very dark cloud hang over wild game farmers in 2017. A clownshow :marseyclown3: of a court case had been fought for a while, eventually having gone as far up as the Gauteng Pretoria High Court; and all of the big publications which cover the hunting industry followed the proceedings with angst and sweating bullets. For the 1st time in RSA history ,the horror of being forced to compensate neighbours that had been financially damaged by your wild game's presence, had been casually placed upon the table. Worse yet still, was the 1st time that High Court had been called to settle such a wild game type civil dispute matter, and the result would be enshrined in official Case Law - meaning that whichever way the High Court ruled, would be legalized and be the manner in which legal proceedings would be followed, unless another High Court decision overruled and displaced it.

This specific case had been fought for many years, and took intense measures to bring it to this legal level. Additionally south african legal costs are astronomically expensive for the average south african. Meaning that any follow up to this court case's judgement would only ever be fought against by the very richest farmers.

https://hfglaw.co.za/why-is-legal-representation-so-expensive/

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2022-11-03-office-of-public-protectors-enormous-legal-bills-revealed/

Now I've tried REALLY hard to find particulars of this case on the internet, but this shit has been only hard printed. Like holy smokes, most good RSA stuff printed before 2020 was in newspapers and specialist magazines like SA Hunter/Jagter https://www.sajagterhunter.com/ But I've no idea how to look for specific articles, cuz my father followed this case intensely as he had a few black wildebeest on his small farm, and was under fear that in the even MCF infected neighbouring cattle it could ruin him, so many people in the hunting world around me followed it, that's how I became aware of it.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681821839321557.webp


I did however find the Gauteng High Court ruling for the case:

https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPPHC/2017/286.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16818218396637585.webp

https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPPHC/2017/286.pdf

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681821840093397.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16818218402659578.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681821840445834.webp

In summary what's said is that the dude is sueing his neighbors for introducing wildebeest to a corral adjacent to his cattle ranch and caused the consequent infection of Snotsickness, as he had lived there for decades and have never encountered the disease prior to the introduction of the wildebeest by his douchebag negligent neighbours.

What follows is more incomprehensible legal jargon and the systemic procedures followed through the 4 years of the legal :slapfight::punchjak: but the conclusion is that the defendants stunningly lost, and were thus responsible for paying damages which their MCF infected wildebeest caused.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16818218406246712.webp

Cue apocalypse! :marseyakbar:


Piet Wolmarans made himself a hated man by all who kept wildebeest, and a nationwide sneeed fest ensued. Many game farmers tried desperately to sell their wildebeest, but overnight their commercial value plummeted. They were now a toxic sue-worthy danger, and and the market supply far far outstripped the demand. The provincial auctions, in which wild game were sold between reserves and hunting lodges to have their market value determined, found themselves saturated by wildebeest. Many men were financially ruined overnight, completely bankrupt if their majority herds constituted mostly of wildebeest instead of sprinboks or Impalas or Elande or whatever.

For those who figured out quickly that the very transport costs of placing these now less than worthless wild game on their farms, towards auctions, decided that mass culling was the least damaging option. 2000 of the frickers were culled quickly as they couldn't even transport them to the nearest Reserves without fear. The rest found their money pockets burned with hot coals. My own father quickly had to shoot the few wildebeest and donate the carcasses the locals near his farm as charity, as the very large animals could hardly be eaten quickly enough for even the entire extended family (Remember the wildebeest are vectors, humans and they are completely immune to the virus and there is nothing the matter with their meat health. The shitshow only starts when the virus comes into contact with the unfortunate cattle.)

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Greetings Dramastrags, today I wanna talk about

https://old.reddit.com/user/Atimo3/comments/?sort=top

@MenAreWorst told me to go looking at his post history, and hoo boi. Our Colombian friend is a mega ultra-soy whom has been the typical contrarian anti-west leftoid for at least 5 years. I wasn't gonna mine the whole of his bullcrap posting, but I did find something that caught my eye: 4 years ago he also posted a wordsoup nonsense post about Spec OPS - The Line, filled with thesaurus big words and rambling which made no sense once you thought about them, and you know...actually played the fricking game.

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/spec_ops_the_line_is_a_proimperialism_piece_even/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16817213346364927.webp

This galaxy brain r-slur :marseybigbrain: main issue with the game is its source material, the infamous Heart of Darkness novel of 1899 which was situated in the Free State Congo, you know when our delightful Belguin friends decided amputating native hands was a good idea as recreation for their mercenary soldiers in the colonial province. The ultra-soy goes full Presentism and applies modern values to the 100 year old book, because there is racial slurs and bigotry in the book, our Soyboy is too much of a navel-gazing moron to understand how unabashedly revolutionary it was for its time, for critiqueing the brutality of colonial powers over natives, and the (at the time) very progressive notion that "civilized" nations can be just as barbaric as the native "savages" that they looked down upon. But Ultra-soy clearly doesn't see that and just goes full :soycry: because a man born back in 1899 doesn't have the same views on race as 2020 :marseyretard2::marseybeanannoyed:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16817213349518952.webp

The idiot in his next point goes full r-slur and completely misinterprets one of the main fricking themes of the game: namely that: that cultural chauvanism and blind self exceptionalism lead to the disasterous events and atrocities in the game. It's like he came out with the absolute exact opposite of what the game wastrying to say. But then again our Columbian friend had the Notion of America Bad before he probably began playing (if he even did), as Spec Ops is literally the biggest critic of burgerland military chauvinism. Like how the frick do you miss the point that much??

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681721335215566.webp

Anyways, 4 years ago the soyification and trainification of Preddit wan't yet complete, because the denizens of /r/truegayming wasn't swallowing his bullcrap.

They basically keelhaul OP, and dismantle his garbage - top comment says it all:


https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/_/e59mbdw/#comment-info

"Firstly, if you're trying to write a serious piece, cool it with the wanky snark. Fricking heck man. It'd be bearable if it was funny or creative, now you just come across like a proper tosser.

Secondly: Everything else. Spec Ops' connection with Heart of Darkness is one of the greatest myths about the game. Sadly since we live in a time where fewer and fewer people read, not many has read the Conrad novel, this is the only reason I can guess why this myth persists and to me it doesn't sound liek even you've read it. Aside from a very similar premise and a reference (the colonel being named Conrad rather than Kurtz) they've barely got anything else in common. Heart of Darkness being about the progression between the darkest jungles of Africa (and the haunting things happening there) and the heart of civilized Europe, with the point of the novel penultimately being that the difference between the two is upheld by an illusion (Marlow lying to Kurtz's wife about his last words being about her rather than the infamous "The horror" and then remarking how nothing came to punish him for this lie, the illusion of romance and goodness goes on).

You've also misunderstood the criticism Achebe has, obviously equating Africa with uncivilized savagery and peril isn't painting a nuanced picture of the ones who live on the continent, also since no Africans held any prominence they themselves (alsong with the continent) is upheld as a great big other, an understandable complaint. Summarising this with "Conrad was so racist lol" is so unbelievably reductive that it does no favors to anyone, especially those unfamiliar with this.

Also:

The Vietnamese civilian is at best a noble savage and at worst a hooker saying ā€œme so hornyā€.

That's Kubricks Full Metal Jacket, not Apocalypse Now.

Even disregarding all of this, the point of "Spec Ops being based on a book a hundred years ago [wrong] which was very racist [wrong] means the game is racist" is ridiculous. Unless you mean racism carry through a source material like a DNA gene, that's just an absurd point being made. I don't even wanna bother arguing with it, every work stands on its own.

Moving on...

Your complaint that Spec Ops supports the intervention of Conrad is both unsupported (you cite nothing in the game which would support this view, just makes claims) and wrong. In fact much of the game directly contradicts this view. Conrad's attempt to hold order is disastrous, and the city is involved in a large civil war before Walker even arrives. Heck, it's turned out so badly Conrad, a decorated and experienced war hero, shot himself out of shame and regret. There's an audio log which mentions the harsher and harsher penalties the soldiers were carrying out. The dilemma of shooting the water thief vs the soldier, though a hallucination, supports the view that the intervention was a disaster. The soldiers were even mass executing their own and hanging them from lamp posts, it's just chaos.

My final point:

You've done this critique and either missed or ignored the entire point of the game. The plot and setting is meant to be excessively shooter-like. Walker is supposed to be the archetypical shooter protagonist who goes in guns blazing, never stops and never ones questions he's doing the right thing. The game's connection with American imperialism only goes so far as other shooter are celebrating the American imperialism and Spec Ops forced to include that angle as well. Even if the game flubbed on this (which it didn't) it still wasn't the main point of the game and would not discredit the point being made."


Also did I say that Spec Ops was based on Heart of Darkness, I lied, it's only influenced by it, the stories are very different with different core stakes, only the naming of main "antagonist" in the game is a direct reference for influence. But Atimo3 being a Pop-culture philosopher sure as heck doesn't know that, I bet the dumbfok has probably not even read Heart of Darkness, and just gossiped between his leftoid Uni group about how one of their English Literature prescribed influencial books that they read in their course gave them racism PTSD or something and he only regurgitate the same shitlib talking points.


Other comments also tear him a new butthole

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/_/e59p3f8/#comment-info

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16817213354243567.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/168172133571245.webp

https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/truegaming/comments/9cc0w9/_/e59nkos/#comment-info

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681721336059062.webp


The wimp ends up deleting his post and inane comments but we here at drama.net have even bigger autismos to document his nonsense! :marseyevilgrin:\


UPDATE:

Looks like our wimpy mods made a totally unrelated modpost on /r/truegaming today! Looks like the chuddery of yesterday's Greedfall colonialism slapfight :slapfight: got beneath the wokescold's skins. I'm quite certain this is a total coincidence :marseyclueless: Also, does anyone else not the see the Greedfall post on /r/truegaming, did the cowards remove it?

https://old.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/12ot55r/minor_rules_update/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16817394129520586.webp

Looks like so many denizens still being too chuddy for the attempted soyification of the sub has meant that damage control

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EFFORTPOST Obscure rightoid Schizo Christian Crusader Drama :marseycrusader::marseycrusade:

Guys I had a dream last night. Nay! A nightmare :marseyscared::marseyscream:. I dreamt that rdrama.net had been transformed :marseyzombie::marseyspooky: From it's usual sparky self into a degenerate form of consumeproduct.losers :marseycheshire4:. We were overwhelmed by seriousposters and straight people! Worse, mayos were investing chat with tradcath crap and crying :chudjaktalking: about the great replacement every second sentence. Finally a great shadow fell over me, and as I turned around: i saw the mind of MADNESS. Unironic magatards! :marseywagie::trumpjaktalking::brainletmaga:They were high-enegry posting and spewing 5D chess "memes" every fricking posts. As soon as they saw me, they began shuffling towards me like zombies, :marseyheadcrab::marseyheadcrab::marseyheadcrab: and began to suck the fun right out of my mind!

I woke up in a cold sweat.:marseyworried::marseyveryworried: It was only a dream after all, but it was so real! What did it mean?? An angel decended from my 2012 Windows Smartphone's cracked lens as tried to find out what time it was. :marseyangel::marseyangel2::marseyangel3::marseysaint: A voice like a thousand marseys in heat screaming outside my trashcans at 2:00AM in the morning, spoke to me: "kaamrev, Santa clause is very disappointed with you."

WTF did I do? i asked

"You've disturbed the balance of rdrama.net! :marseyyinandyang: Your uninterrupted schizo posting about leftoids have turned the tide of moral-straggotry, and allowed too many MDEnerates to invest the site."

I wat now?

"Change your ways! Before its too late!" The cracked screen screamed into my eyeballs :marseyletsfuckinggo2::marseyaaalaser: "Unless you want the discussion level of 9gag!"

I just screamed :marseydisagreesuperspeed: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


:marseybath:

Right, uhh sorry about that guys, I was a bit high after smelling my bakkie's petrol fumes for 3 hours. Anyways, TODAYS DRAMA!

Welcome to random obscure rightoid schizo u-tuber nr. 123728329 - ABC CHRISTIAN 5. Our christian friend here has been sneeding non stop for about 4 years straight. From Vidja to Illuminati movies, this man of God has been on a ceaseless crusade against the cucks, the SJWs and the satanists!

I like totally stumbled on this neighbour by ACCIDENT :marseyclueless:< wink wink, nudge nudge, guru guru, slightly homoerotic undercurrent>


This guy has had it in especially for Disney movies. Especially the woke satanic anti-christ nu-disney shat!

Take Cruella for example. My man ABC doesn't waste time! Straight to our homebrew sermon! Unfortunately I'll have to transcribe.

0;15 "Disney always had wicked movies about witchcraft :marseywitch2:. The bible warns that sorcerors will end up in the lake of fire. And guess what? A lot of witches are in Hollywood! :marseyglancing: And what's their fruit: it's rottenness! This movie shows her with a bottle blowing up a building! The bible says that Rebellion is a form of witchcraft!" Wait wut

0;50 "They have Emma (the lead actress) with an A, as in anarchy! Remember rebellion is as a sin of witchcraft! They have her drinkin/as a drunkard in this movie. Watch out for drunkards! Drunkards shall not inherit the kingdom of the earth." What the heck lmoa. What's this guy's issue with rebellion lol

Our buddy warns us that many people not realizing the WITCHCRAFT of hollyweird and have seen 101 Dalmations will go and see this! The music industry worked in cahoots with this movie, they take the Lord's name in vain.

The reason I mention rebellion is that like 3 mins later he's like: "The bible says we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against municipalities and rulers! And Hollyweird is dark municipalities!" Wait so is rebelling a good or bad thing now? :marseyquestion: After that it gets a lot more incoherent

Anyways, seems our bro has a small but loyal fanbase

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Here our brave crusader sneeds about the Disney Groomer u-tube channel cuz they talk about magic in one of their innocuous videos. He complains about Disney teaching them SPELLS and CIRCLES, and they're gonna summon DEVILS next :marseydevil: "They're targeting children, just like Harry Potter! :marseyrowling: And I will cut out witchcraft out of thy hand, and thy shalt have no more soothsayers!"

He's also not a fan of gender theory :marseyclueless: 4;40 "And then this guy, it's supposed to be a guy, but he looks like he has makeup on. And they try to use the media to gender-confuse your children, okay? Through how they dress, and make them say. They're gonna promote the LGBT agenda...." It again becomes more and more incoherent as it goes on, but the poor boy that our christcuck sneeds about is literally just a tween who is wearing generic face brightening make-up that even politicians use to clarify their faces for a press conference, or actors wear to have their faces more easily visible in bad lighting lmoa


Frozen is also on the hitlist! Why? Because disney is evil :marseydisney::marseyevilgrin: !

At 1;24 he seeds about Malificent because Angelina Joline has horns, but the rest of the video is more boring compared to the rest of the schizo train. But again he screetches about something about rebellion being synonemous with witchcraft, is he talking about rebellion against parental figures? Cuz again like before and many other of his vids he always ends up contradicting himself by saying resisting the gubmint and Hollyweird.

The comments on this one is pretty wholesome great christianity. :marseywholesome::marseysatisfied: :marseyandjesus:

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"I know of a mother and daughter ,who went and watched this movie ...they never made it home...died in an accident ...last week" Oh snap! That's scary :marseyscream:

"Only born again believers can appreciate this video. Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Raise your children in the ways of the Lord, and they will not depart ways. I took my daughter to see this, & knew within minutes it was intertwined with evil. She was scared, when the "spirits" were taunting the characters. I feel terrible. Lord, forgive me. For so many, this video doesn't apply to you. For FEW will find the way." lol


Our :marseycrusader2: is not just averse to Disney, however. He also dislikes James Cameron's bad writing. So what's his issue with Avatar?

You won't believe it. It's not that he came to the conclusion that Avatar has satanic messages, or that Hollyweird is mindraping your kids in the Avatar series, not it's that James Cameron used the subtitle Judgement Day back in Terminator 2, back in 1991 that set him off :marseytrollolol: And for that sin of using the Lord's name in vain (somehow?) he's now on ABC's shitlist.

Repent you basterds that watch Avatar or Terminator, you're all going to heck - aka a Reddit Moderator organized slumber party for girls on /r/actuallesbians :marseyburn::marseydaemon:


The r-sluration and brain worms don't just stop at movies by Hollyweird, our :marseycrusader: is hip, and is also trying to warn the kids from raping their minds with satan's gock by playing unfinished buggy AAA releases.

This one was way tooo easy to guess that he would have an issue with, I mean even my parents prevented me from watching Harry Potter. Conversely, My neighbourhood friend were not allowed to watch Dragon Ball Z, so we would devise watching the shit either of us couldn't at our own homes, at each other's house, hehe

Our crusader sneeds in horror at the depravity that MILLIONS of young peeps are being led away from the word of God. 1;30 "Books about magic and Sorcery, they will burn in the lakes of fire!" :marseynecklace:

Also our buddy is one organized bugger, he's using super special Bible-searching software, just look at this religious turbo autism.

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2;02 "Back in the book of (incomprehensible) the philistines they were playing with witchcraft. Well you saying to me you just playing a game, you not actually playing with witchcraft, then WHY (sniff) is there so much likes on this witchcraft?? (referring u-tube). Why do they call it Dark Arts, I don't really call it arts, let's call it what it is: SIN! Let's call it wickedness. They got the dark part right. It's darkness, and if you're a follower of Christ, you're not supposed to follow darkness!" lol

Later he spazzes out on the Hogwarts ad video, when the narrator describes that you can [create the witch you want ] referring to the customizing character creator. Our neurodivergent friend completely misinterprets it. 15;50 "You know the bible in the old testament, they said suffer not a witch to live! So if you were a witch in the old testament, you would have killed (smugly), and now it's something they trying to get you to be." Lmoa then referring to the faces of the avatars "These people don't look very happy. You won't ever be happy being a witch, cuz you'll never be fufilled!" :marseyxd:

Anyways, I can stand 7 minutes of this guy, but im not watching the entire fricking 30 minute video, but this one shows the basic pattern of r-slurred sneeding: find something unrelatedly inoffensive, take it out of context immediately and start the most brimstone sermon on all of u-tube :marseypastor: about said media leading us all astray, then incomprehensible incomprehension follows.


Our mega crusader is also not a fan of the GAY AGENDA :marseyhomofascist::marseytwerkingfast: , and is firm in the belief that it's not just Hollyweird that's behind the indoctrination of the youth, that the denizens of rdrama.net :marseyilluminati: are also behind the homofication of the AAA gayming industry.

He basically creates his own imaginary cuckold fantasy, and sneeds that the chick from last of us ignore the guy, 1;02 "She ignores the guy, she won't even look at the guy, now look at this here come's the girl, she gets so excited. :marseyitsover: (incomprehensible) I hope they not gonna be kissing." lmoa

He later is all like :marseysick::marseysick::marseysick: that they're dancing together, and hoping that they won't be kissing (a lie cuz he never stops looking :marseysmug2:)


To make recompense for his sinful exposure to violent/sexual/satanic video games, our moral crusader decides to throw out all his sinful movies, and most of his vidja, he goes on and on about how he was just a small unthinking teenager, and didn't see the sin in all of these movies/games (probably because he hadn't developed his brain cancer yet), but lmoa he has so much. A giant box filled with old controllers and games

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Aaaaah here we go. The original ground zero for 1990s Christian parent moral busybodies: DragonBall z or Pokemon. I have never thanked my parents for for listening to their choir group gossip and banning the viewing of Pokemon in their house - they saved me from the mind cancer of weebshit at a young age. I never could view DBZ cus that was always at a timeslot on SABC2 when I had school activities - bullet missed!

So what specifically is our :marseycrusader:'s problem with DBZ. It's not the cartoon itself! Or the fact that there's gods in it, or the fact that magic powers is in it. NO! It's the fricking theme song.

He complains about the opening credit theme song mentioning the word Dragon, and proceeds to go full christcuck schizo: 1;10 "The Bible says (sourcing), that the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceived the wrold, was cast into the earth" He then goes on to spaz that the dragons in other media and vidja is just monsters, but because the theme song somehow calls to the chinese wish granting character in a specific manner, that it's a satanic summoning of the GREAT DRAGON, aka the dark man Satan himself.

He also doesn't like the way that Goku goes to the spirit world, and GTFOs back out of heaven in the cartoon when facing the Sayens. 4;00 "And so it's appointed to men once to die!" Basically he doesn't like that.

He's a proud patriot :marseysaluteusa: and anti-nazi, he doesn't like the Super-Sayans have blond hair small peepees. It's nazi propaganda, that certain individuals are better than others!


Begins with a bomb "Don't watch this movie, it's too wicked and scary! :marseyscared: Just because it's PG, doesn't mean it's scary" He goes on to tell you that the lava in Koopa Keep represents heck :marseybeanannoyed:

Our boi is also a tabmaxxer

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He goes turbo christcuck schizo, and sneeds about how the opening of the trailer of the Mario movie is has dungeon in it, and he's like this is too close a depiction of everlasting heck and is inappropriate and insert incomprehensible. It gets quickly boring as its just generic religious spazzing but this time drama in the comments ! :marseyfsjal: :slapfight:

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Our bro is also hesitant to trust vaxmaxxers because it makes magnets stick to your flesh! Dont trust the chemtrails bois!

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He's also not a fan of some music. So what set him off on Billie? Cuz Billie is hecking transphobe! She called God a SHE! God is a he.

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Ariana Grande also made herself Crusader-public-enemy-number-one when she made a sacreligious song called - God is a woman

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4;30 "The music industry it's a spiritual battle, and a lot of mucisians say they get possessed when they're on stage. They have witches write their song." 5;00 "The reason why they use the lights (stage spotlights) is they try to hypnotize you!" :marseyemojirofl: Becomes more incomprehensible from here on


Anyways that's all I've got - i think my brain is fried. GOOD NIGHT!

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EFFORTPOST Ugliest Redditor Beauty Pageant WINNER THREAD

LONG AWAITED! I've been so busy dying I almost forgot about the most important thing in the world - the Ugliest Redditor Beauty Pageant!

WINNER IS - CXNT submitted by @Its_All_Donkey_Kong_Man OMG

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CXNT is a Libra and doesn't use vowels in every day speech as xie believes vowels subjugate natal born women. CXNT mutilates xier body for the sake of trans exclusionary radical feminism and believes that women are born women. CXNT's favorite hobbies are: Harry Potter, anonymous s*x with cis men, and political lesbianism.

Thank you all for participating.


Carp and Capy said my contests were stupid and they wont fund them anymore BUT thanks to funding by Viewers Like You the Ugliest Redditor Beauty Contest is back on!

This will be pinnned till Monday 4/17/2023.

Welcome to the voting thread! Here is a link to the original thread

I did a bit of a naughty thing and dug up info on the people you submitted - as a result I have added a bit of a back story to the folks y'all submitted and while I try to never lie I must remind people that all things said here are my own interpretation of reality and are warped for the sake of humor.

Vote for your fave below

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Our first contestant comes from the realms of /r/Roastme so you don't have to feel that bad about voting for her but she is also disabled so you know. The person that submitted her will be enjoying an extra spicy level of heck.

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Contestant number two is apparently carp? I don't really think this is carp but I've also been told multiple times now that this is actually carp. Carp's favorite hobbies include: pretending to have a job that isn't being an alt-right Reddit offsite Janny, voting Red, and wanting to frick Dasha.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16816101204516096.webp

Contestant Number Three is a photo of a hairy thumb. There is a ten point deduction for submitting trans people to this contest and this is why.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16816101208991444.webp

Contestant Number Four's Reddit profile is 18+ because it's so full of hot spicy shit. This stud hangs out in /r/barelylegalteens, /r/Shemale, and /r/YoungGirlsGoneWild. This man is a literal fricking you know.

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Contestant Number Five is Xylite. Their pronouns are Frick/OFF and they reject all aspects of modern society. Their favorite hobbies are: Eyebrow deletion, hunting and gathering, and The Sims 4.

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Contestant Number Six is Churd. Churd has posted 50000 photos of himself to the internet and yet has only ever revealed half of his face. Churd's favorite hobbies are creatine, phantom of the opera, and long haired emo haircuts that hide half your face.

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Contestant Number Seven is Methany. Her favorite hobbies are Meth, Meth, and Meth. She learned how to do her makeup from a 1995 Sears catalogue and she hopes to one day do more meth.

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Contestant Number Eight is another grab from /r/Roastme. This is Ghrurghle. Ghrurghle has Treacher Collins Syndrome and the person that submitted them is going to enjoy an extra spicy stay in heck. Ghrurghle's favorite hobbies are (literally): Ben 10, Spiderman, and PS4. Please donate to Ghrurghle so he can buy a fricking PS5.

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Contestant Number Nine is CXNT. CXNT is actually a PhD level Economist that decided to opt out of society and thinks that anyone with a mortgage is an r-slur (her words not mine). CXNT doesnt have any hobbies and instead focuses on hating: LL Bean, the Jesuit Community, and jean shorts. CXNT is a notable high level Scientologist.

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I'm not saying shit. Whoever submitted this girl is a fricking butthole and I'm not even going there. You know who you are and you are burning in heck.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16816150128799944.webp

Contestant Number Eleven is Jeremy. Jeremy is 24 years old and a resident of Kansas City MO. This is what happens when you live in the midwest.

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Contestant number twelve is CatGurl. Catgurl hopes to one day be able to open her eyes. CatGurl's favorite hobbies are: entrapping men in false pregnancy scams, spreading herpes, and focaccia bread. CatGurl is also a freelance pornstar. Please subscribe to her GoFundMe so you can fund her next abortion.

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Meet Anna! She's super Pro-Anna. Anna's favorite things include: being told she looks deathly ill, being asked if she's dying, and matcha!

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Contestant number fourteen is Travis! Travis was always big as a kid and his first job was at a Taco Bell and when he was 22 he fell down and got a 40k payout from the company. Travis is now 44 and hasn't had a job in 20 years and his favorite hobbies are: trap porn, fluvoxamine, and Gold Bond Foot Powder.

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Contestant number fifteen is Borb. Borb is a closet lesbian but everyone knows she's a lesbian and it's really awkward because it's like why not just tell us you're a lesbo? It's 2023. No one cares that Borb is a lesbo but she spends each night anguishing about whether or not she did something "gay" at work. Borb also has really awful teeth for reasons unrelated to lesbianism (alcoholism).

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Contestant Number Sixteen put on a suit for this photo because the "city" was coming over to his house and he was afraid that if he didn't wear a suit the IRS would audit him because he never claimed his SHIB coin earnings from 2021. He made 200 dollars in 2021. The suit is his dead fathers'. The city only visited him because their lawn was overgrown. His hobbies are painfully too boring to list here. Also he's fat.

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Contestant Number Seventeen is notable for being the inspiration for Khloe Kardashian's "Big Lip" Filter on Tik Tok. They are also the only black contestant submitted to this contest which makes you all look way less racist than I thought you were so good job on that one!

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A rare find from /r/toastme. This contestant's name is Brad and he thought /r/Toastme was going to actually give him toast. Brad is an incel (if you couldn't tell). Brad's favorite hobbies include: hating women. stalking natalie portman look-alikes, and Sonic the Hedgehog (but not like Chris Chan levels just like sad levels ew).

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681619701531873.webp

This is Melissa. We all know a Melissa and they all look exactly like this Melissa. Refusing to break the "Curse of Melissa," this contestant is addicted to Dutch Brothers, and she is way younger than you'd assume from this photo (such is life as a Melissa). Melissa's favorite hobbies are: Pottery barn rugs with words on them, "oklahoma," and MLM pyramid schemes.

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This person isn't ugly at all imo. I love the tattoo on their shoulder and they are european and speak multiple languages. I was going to try to dox them but they don't normally speak english and I was like "ew" so no. Whoever submitted this person should feel bad and you're trash. <3

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Contestant number twenty one is a trans woman whose name is Hannah. Hannah is a non-op, non-HRT trans woman wearing a never-brushed Shein wig that looks like it was made from the asscrack hairs I shave off my butt before I frick strangers. Hannah's hobbies include: doing nothing to be actually trans, Not telling their parents they're gay, and moderating /r/ActualLesbians.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16816197037238789.webp

Contestant twenty two is a really mean one because he unfortunately lost his eyesight in a house fire. He has lived his entire life since the age of 4 with no sight because his father attempted to burn down their house in some weird domestic dispute with his mother. He also suffered major burns all across his entire body from the fire and has had many surgeries because of it.

lol JK he just has a stupid fricking haircut.

vote for your fave

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Original post: Decided to help a friend :gigachad:, the mission was successful. The procedure lasted 5min. She was 16 weeks. :marseyaborted::marseyjannymini:

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This post generated so much random sneeding I've only felt like going through half of it, so the rest is up to you to explore


Twitter outrage farm account @reddit_lies sneeds

:npcangry:Redditor sponsors the death of a child
:shakefist:Imagine being praised for executing a child.
:marseyweeb:Angel of death

some choice replies

:marseynerd2:Thatā€™s in the second trimester. That baby was over 7in long. That babyā€™s heart was pumping around 25q of blood a day. That baby was murdered, for pay.
I think I'm gonna be sick šŸ¤¢ Reading this makes me feel physically ill
This one's from a guy who called himself "Unvaxxed Plague Rat" :marseyeyeroll2:
:gigachad4:

This bait got 18 replies of rightoids sneeding:

:soyjakcobson:A child is a child from the moment of conception.

:marseygigachad:Lol nope

:soyjakanimeglasses:prove it

:chadno:Just did.

:soyjakferal:That isn't proof, That's you dodging the question because you know you're wrong. I want you to explain to me why a fetus isn't a child.

:gigachad2:blacksoyjak: can't understand it for you, chief.

But this stuff is boring, let's go to the original reddit thread instead! It's full of retards having the same old boring abortion shitfest.


:marseyblops2cel:How long does it take for females :minecraftcreeper: to realize they are pregnant? Iā€™m not a female but 4 months seems like a good amount of time. Also why donā€™t they use birth control if they know they are gonna be having sex? I feel like at some point some people just have to be accountable. Iā€™m not trying to hold a republican stance on this :marseyfreeman:, but from what females have told me itā€™s not hard to be on the pill or have other forms of birth control in their own body. Wouldnā€™t it be ironic :chudsmug: if this same female who had a abortion decided she wanted a abortionkid later in life? Lol!
How long does it take for females

:marseypussyhat:Awww an incel in the wild.

:marseysoycry: I saw the word "females" and instantly knew your comment isn't worth reading


:gigachadqueen:I take pleasure in the fact youā€™re pissed a woman isnā€™t going to be punished for having sex by having a child she doesnā€™t want. She gets to live her life and you get to stay mad.
Lol Iā€™m not mad. Posting this for some pat on the back and internet validation is fucking lame. You donā€™t have to post every good deed you do. Once you do it wasnā€™t really for you it was for your own ego to get Internet points. OP is a douche and so are you. Miserable cunt.
Maybe OP wasn't posting this for a "pat on the back" but rather to show that it's ok to stand with your friends and support them, especially around such a difficult issue. This could give others the courage to be the amazing kind of person that OP obviously is. No one should have to experience an abortion alone if they don't want to.
Donā€™t want no babyā€™s donā€™t get fucked lol god forbid you have to make a single personal sacrifice in your life at least be able to pay for your own abortion or maybe have the common sense to take a plan b I mean Jesus thatā€™s ho 101
Plan B costs 50$. Doubt most people have that lying around :marseypoor: if they donā€™t have access to birth control. I got groomed :marseygroomergrooming: and ended up pregnant. What should I have done differently to not get raped? Or does your shaming only apply to the hypothetical women that live in your mind?
Hahaha bro most people have 50 dollars :marseychad:. If you ainā€™t got 50 bucks you shouldnā€™t be fucking your got bigger problems :marseyhesright:
:soyjaktantrum: You grossly misinterpret who the miserable cunt is šŸ˜¬
Yo all Reddit is, is self righteous ppl posting stuff :marseyhesright: they think ppl really give a fuck about. Chill out. This person did a good deed and we are shouting them out. Maybe itā€™ll inspire someone else. They didnā€™t post this will any ill intent

Did she absolutely have to wait until she was already 4 months pregnant? I mean good for her for choosing whatā€™s best for her, but I wouldā€™ve had a real mental conflict within myself if I let a fetus continue to grow until It was already almost halfway to fruition. Iā€™m honestly conflicted and I I donā€™t know how the person that OP helped isnā€™t.
Relax, she did at 16 week, we can abort until 23 weeks and 6 days.
:marseycope: That doesn't make it right.
Abortion are always right before that time. :marsoy: Her body, her choice.
:marseylongpost: It's not a cluster of cells at that point... Even at 16 weeks... At 23 weeks you're at the starting point of viability in an emergency they have a chance of surviving outside of the womb.

I'm pro choice, it's her body and good on OP for supporting someone who needed it in a very tough time. I think 16 weeks is getting towards the end of the window. Don't spew nonsense about what is in there, it just discredits you and the ass holes who want to outright ban it have more fuel for their hate filled fire.

From WebMD and what I've witnessed in my wife's own two pregnancies and one that didn't make it.

Month 4 of Pregnancy In the second trimester of pregnancy -- months 4, 5, and 6 -- your baby's fingers and toes are well-defined. Their eyelids, eyebrows, eyelashes, nails, and hair are formed, and teeth and bones are becoming denser. Your baby can even suck their thumb, yawn, stretch, and make faces.

The nervous system is starting to function at this point in pregnancy. The reproductive organs and genitalia are now fully developed, and your health care provider can see on ultrasound if you are having a boy or a girl. Your baby's heartbeat may now be audible through an instrument called a Doppler.

All of that doesnā€™t matters more than the womanā€™s life. Itā€™s her choice. Not yours.

:teehee:$520 creampie
These prices make cheap backstreet clothes hanger abortions more attractive

When will the gubment do something about infanticide inflation? :marseybeanpensive:


Murdering filth. I hope one day it hits you and you spend the rest of years on earth living in sadness for the evil you did.
It was the right choice you say. Of course it was. You looked for the easy way out. Legal murder instead of having to be a mother. Society told you it was legal but you never considered if it was moral. It wasnā€™t and you are a monster for it.
:marseywords2: I was a deeply devout Christian until about two years ago. Abortion was the subject I stood by the most firm. I believed life began at conception and was deeply heartbroken for all the ā€œbabiesā€ who passed. I loved Jesus with my whole heart. I knew the Bible like the back of my hand, I had weekly studies with my theology professor/pastor father. I prayed continuously.

It was stuff exactly like this that finally pushed me to leave. You brood of vipers. When you pray, when you fast, do it in secret. The words coming out of your mouth right now are about as far from Christ as you could possibly get.

But if harassing women (traumatized women at that) online makes you feel like youā€™ve made some modicum of difference, then by all means. My heart and spirit cannot be so easily swayed by hollow words like yours.

Keep pointing fingers at everyone but you. You chose to have sex, you chose to not be safe, you choose to murder. But we are the problem? I do understand why you do that. If you couldnā€™t blame me then youā€™d have to blame yourself and if you did that youā€™d have to accept that you are evil.

Keep telling yourself the person who thinks itā€™s wrong to kill is the problem and you are wonderful. Itā€™s a great coping mechanism.

Babe, Iā€™m the first one who pointed fingers at myself. I made that choice, I take full responsibility for my decision. I had safe sex, Iā€™ve only ever been with the same man. I did everything ā€œright.ā€

Itā€™s ok, I felt the same way as you for a really long time. I totally understand how blinding your non scientific beliefs can be. I was blinded too. Then I took my head out of my ass.

You killed, I didnā€™t . Youā€™re the monster. End of story. But donā€™t worry, itā€™s legal to kill that which has no choice. So murder as many of them as you can and enjoy your life where you get a choice.
You must have a very low opinion of our veterans then. :marseypearlclutch2: Veterans, doctors, prison executioners. And youā€™re vegan right? You must be, to have such a black and white view of something thatā€™s been deeply scientifically studied.

Half of this thread is random sneeding like below, but there are some more slapfights in between if you're interested


To take a human life for 500 bucks and be proud of it. Disgusting monsters.

Helping a friend kill her own kidpreborn. So many levels of fucked up.

yes lets encourage whoring of both genders the state will pay!

God works in mysterious ways

Perhaps, but this is not one of them.

How could you possibly know God's intentions

This was the action of an individual, not of God. He gave us free will and we're free to make terrible decisions with it.

It's still part of his plan. Otherwise he wouldn't have let it happen., like he did with Abraham

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how free will works.

God did not compel Abraham to save his son. This has nothing to do with free will. God simply appeared before Abraham through an angel he sent. It was Abraham's free will that saved his son, not God. However, God did have a hand in Abraham's decision. Why is this hand not present when faced with the same scenario (abortion)? Clearly, it is because those who choose to abort have God's blessing to do so.

What a ridiculous conclusion to draw from that. The only reason God sent an angel was to belay the order he had given earlier for Abraham to sacrifice his son. Do you seriously believe God sends an angel before every bad decision ever made? And if so, you said yourself: God does not coerce any action. Who's to say this woman didn't simply ignore her "angel"?

If she ignored her angel, God wanted her to ignore it for future character development after punishment, still part of his plan

Why would someone be punished for what God wanted them to do? Your worldview is completely nonsensical. Good day.

They'd be punished for rejecting what they perceived as God's will. If they get an abortion, God knew all along that they would reject his angel but had to test their faith before punishing them. Once they go through any consequence of their sin, they will have been redeemed in the eyes of God and thus fulfill his overall Plan. If they never experience consequences for their abortion, we can conclude it was God's will, as there was no punishment to be given.

Source?

Romans chapter 12, ā€œBless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: ā€œIt is mine to avenge; I will repay,ā€ says the Lord.

God states that he will punish those who disobey his will. If someone rejects God's will to keep the baby, they will be punished. There are millions who go unpunished for this act, as God's blessing has saved himthem from his wrath.

That passage clearly condemns taking revenge in the case of persecution, nothing else. It does not imply there is no set moral standard, or that lack of earthly recompense means there was no transgression.


And last but not least, a completely pointless and retarded slapfight between two redditors

Your whole account is full of vitriol for women.

I known it hurts when one breaks your heart but you have to move on and not take it out on every other woman on the internet.

Lol I am a women

So?

Well technically Iā€™m non binary

So?

So?

Leave women alone.

Iā€™m not bothering women

Yes you are. Your whole account is full of hate and attacks against women. Leave them alone.

Um no itā€™s not you fucking mogaloid. Your whole account is caring about pop culture shit no wonder you want to die

Yours is. We can see it, it is public. I do not want to die. You have a lot of hate in your heart. Be kinder to yourself.

Uh dude 90 percent of my comments are here lol the others are not like other girls where I get upvotes sooooo go be a Jack off to the Kim k somewhere you dork

90% of your comments are hate and abuse to women. Incel behaviour.

Be kind. Have hope.

Lol whatever you fucking retard get some help

Your life will improve but you need to help yourself first.

Trying to upset strangers on the internet just makes you even angrier at yourself.

If you need to spend this much time on the internet, try joining subreddits you like and where you can add positively instead of negatively. You won't be so angry during your online time.

Consider going for a walk and regularly taking a shower too. This will improve your mental state.

Be lucky.

Lol I do way more than you can know. Maybe try not feeling like youā€™ve ascended humanity because you donā€™t want to have kids. Youā€™ll be much happy. Stop watching reality tv and touch grass. It will help.

You don't do positive things with your time and that is a waste of a life. You spread hatred of women. I am very happy, your whole account is hate for women. You clearly have some things going on, you need to deal with that yourself.

Lol no one spreading hatred for women. Please quote my hatred for women you. Since you have so much time in your hands.

Your whole account is full of it. Dedicated to spread right wing type hate. If antibatalismantinatalism offends you so much, just stay away from the sub.

Extremely easy and you won't be this angry.

Hahahaha dude what right wing shit? What hate? You just make a claim thatā€™s bullshit and canā€™t even validate it. Iā€™m also not angry I just enjoy trolling this sub. Itā€™s petty much the only place I comment because itā€™s very entertaining. Not surprising from a ā€œsoccerā€ fan. What a joke dude.

The right wing hate in your profile. It is public and available for all to see.

It's not 'trolling' if you're making yourself angry.

You could spend this time showering, working on your personal hygiene and getting some fresh air. You will feel better.

Stay lucky.

Lol all the hate that you canā€™t seem to recall or quote. Iā€™m also not angry like I find it funny. Why are you thinking about me showering so much? Pervert. Your profile is filled with sick sexual stuff.

It is all in your profile for anyone that wants to see it. I will not share it here for whatever game you are trying to play.

Incels usually smell of body bodour, that's why I am encouraging you to shower and take time away from the internet to allow you to calm down.

And Just like anyone see you looking for underaged girls on yours. Also incel is so played out and over used. Pretty hard to be one with a wife and kids.

You do not have a wife and kids. You could have if you worked on yourself for a while.

Lol I do. Iā€™ll dm. You a pic if you want but I shouldnā€™t considering youā€™re sex offender

No you do not. Do not DM me a pic of a womennon fromconsenting thiswoman subyou don't know.

You arenā€™t one to give lessons on consent

Leave women alone. Stop harrasing women on this subreddit. Spend your time positively and productively, work on your personal hygiene and mental health.

You will then meet a real woman, marry her and have children. It will take you a few years but you will mature and life will improve but you have to start with you.

Stay lucky.

Youā€™re the sex offender. I have a wife with 2 year old and one on the way. You are the one who doesnā€™t even believe they should exist. You please get some help and stop jumping to conclusions. Iā€™m sorry Iā€™ve didnā€™t work out for you. At least you get to live through your favorite soccer team.

I have a wife with 2 year old and one on the way.

No you do not. It is not healthy pretending you do.

Dang man you think they really might not be really? Like beautiful mind style? Am I Russel Crowe?

They are not real. You are dreaming up a family scenario so you can argue on Reddit. Quite pathetic really.

So like Iā€™m really not a spy and Iā€™m not working for the CIA? My best friend is also just a figment of my delusion?

You're just being silly now. I feel bad for you.

Dude have you never seen the beautiful mind? Like the movie? This whole thing has been silly you knuckle dragger. You keep feeding me. I really do have a family which is funny that that is the thing you think Iā€™m joking about. Pretty comical.

You do not have a family.

Yeah huh

So you're telling me you have a wife and children yet instead of spending time with them you are spending hours a day insulting women on the internet?

You are a horrible husband and horrendous father.

I have never insulted women lol you can keep saying that but you canā€™t pin point it because youā€™re a barely functioning butt queef. You say Iā€™m angry jeez you really need some anger management. Iā€™m sorry your dad left you but the best part about you probably ran down your moms leg.

Irony since you have been commenting on Reddit for 11 straight hours today (check the timings of your comments on your profile if you don't believe me)

11 straight hours negatively commenting on Reddit ignoring your 'wife and kids'

Horrible husband and horrendous father.

Lol yeah man way to jump to conclusions and also still not say how Iā€™m hateful. Wife and kids are out of town this weekend first and show day at work so Iā€™ve been here. Youā€™re a piece of shit. Literally canā€™t stand a little troll session and you havenā€™t seen the beautiful mind which makes you also uncultured swine. Loser

Wife and kids are out of town this weekend

Hahahahahah fucking wrecked. Of course they are coincidentally 'out of town'

You got exposed.

Hahahaha you fucking miserable loner.

You got fucking annihilated.

Have a shower. You smell.

What lol wifeā€™s sister has a baby Wednesday so they left town to see her Iā€™ve got work tomorrow. That is called real life lol if you really think thatā€™s some type of win your standard for what is an accomplishment is pretty low. You know people with families do have free time and shit right? Like itā€™s not like Iā€™m in prison.

Hahahaha yeah sure dude, your imaginary family are 'out of town'

That was absolutely hilarious.

It's just pathetic now that you're adding a whole back story to it though. Was absolutely hilarious now just sad.

Itā€™s also genuinely hilarious from my side cause like itā€™s true which sort of is the epitome of internet arguments and I love it

itā€™s true

Hahaha dude you got exposed, give it up. Embarrassing yourself even further now. Let it go.

We've had our laugh at your expense. Let it go.

No one is laughing but youā€™ll do you have like Truman show syndrome where you think you have an audience? Like dude you have no evidence like you just think you are Sherlock Holmes and have something figured out. Keep it coming. What else is going on in my life?

where you think you have an audience?

You think you have a whole family, wife and kids. Come on man.

Youā€™re right Iā€™m actually under a bridge right now. Reddit is all I have. Youā€™re trying to take that from me.

I'm not trying to take it from you, I'm telling you to use it positively and productively instead of negatively.

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If you are unfamiliar with Destiny 2, it is Bungie Studios' second best franchise ever (out of two). It's like World of Warcraft meets Call of Duty except instead play as solders, you're space wizards.

The median Destiny player has like 3000 hours logged in, proving that g*mers are subhumans who deserve less than nothing.

Earlier in March, there were some leaks of new weapons which are basically same as old ones, and some "exotic" armor pieces (which everyone has) would get like 5% worse: https://x.com/Bungie_Leaks/status/1637247451882225666

Today, Bungie made a surprise Tweet sounding like a BPD foid with all that "you breached my trust" and "I won't have s*x (secret summits) with you (streamers) until I can trust u again": https://x.com/Destiny2Team/status/1646967503690813441

Coincidentally, around the same time, a big Destiny streamer called Ekuegan made vague and ominous tweets - also sounding like a BPD foid - of basically "YOU'RE not breaking up with ME, I'M breaking up with YOU!!" He ended up šŸ”’ing the replies like a b-word.

https://x.com/Ekuegan/status/1647254421514928129

Good morning. I donā€™t think enough about people that have wronged me or situations that have wronged me. I have gotten to a place where I am happy with who I am in life. I personally know the truth , I know who I am and Iā€™m happy knowing it. Only god can judge me

Meditation ā¤ļø

Complete with self-harm too!(?)

https://x.com/Ekuegan/status/1647297350652788738

Punching bag or not, Iā€™ll be here . Time to experience new games .

https://x.com/Ekuegan/status/1647307333226352640

Blessing in Disguise. I see the real ones

Cue Liana "Hippy" Ruppert, a beloved community manager for Bungo and actual BPD foid. She went on to tweet how this deeply affected her and proceeded to argue in her replies:

https://x.com/DirtyEffinHippy/status/1646972800949944320

Sometimes this job hurts. I donā€™t think people realize how attached to folks we are. As a human, not employee: when that trust is betrayed, it hurts. Same thing when I was a talent manager: itā€™s hard when you genuinely care. And we do. Please donā€™t abuse that trust.

We want you to succeed. Iā€™ve seen so many creators lose entire brands because of one decision. If youā€™re under NDA, no matter the nature, HONOR that. Donā€™t show your friends, no matter how much you think you can trust them. VALUE yourself, because youā€™re amazing.

One last thing: we have people that handle this. Please do not try to seek out leakers, attack them, or seek to harm. Let our teams handle these things, itā€™s part of the job. Your job is to be amazing, be kind, drink water, and absolutely pwn as a Guardian šŸ¤™šŸ¼

She also made a 26-minute long video on this shit

She also got ratioed in her own replies lol

Reddit reacts:

New tweets coming from the Destiny 2 Team twitter suggest the leaker was a community member who leaked info from a community summit (šŸ”’d by jannies)

Paul Tassi, who somehow gets employed by Forbes to write about this one video game, wrote an article on it.

https://x.com/PaulTassi/status/1647283010868314115

This is not a witch hunt, this is reporting. He is the one Bungie has accused of being the leaker. He denies it. Please read the article

Forbes: "The Alleged ā€˜Destiny 2ā€™ Leaker Is A Well-Known Streamer, And He Denies It Was Him"

Here's a bit of the article:

In a DM conversation with me on Friday night, Ekuegan confirmed that he has been accused of being the source of the leak by Bungie. Ekuegan is a high-profile Destiny 2 streamer and YouTuber who is famous for having run over 6,000 Grandmaster Nightfalls.

Each Grandmaster Nightfall takes ~20 mins to 1:30 to complete. There are 8760 hours in a year.

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EFFORTPOST [Effortpost] Valorant foid tries to cancel video game journ*list, bungles the hit (ULTRA RARE SHINIE JOURNO W INSIDE)

Collegiate valorant player based in the UK, "KE6V kryztal" posted a 43 page google document about videogame journ*list George Geddes

https://x.com/kryztal___/status/1646547967749267457

The first thing Iā€™d like to say is that this man is 23, I am still pretty newly 18 (turned in December) so while itā€™s not the biggest age gap in the world, it was slightly weird to me. However, he has been in my Twitter and Snapchat DMs as a form of abusing his power (due to his large following) The reason I put this together is not for the twitter clout or publicityI scrolled trough the document and there is nothing incriminating. Just some neurodivergent trying to flirt, clearly this dude is in.

You can read the google document for yourself but it's a waste of time, it's just some dude failing at flirting and some foid :marseyattentionseeker: looking for attention. Literally nothing remotely criminal happened.


The moid journo reacts with a rare journ*list W :marseyjourno:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16815828467139504.webp

https://x.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1646951186447192078


r/ValorantCompetitive reacts:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/12lbtkb/allegations_against_george_geddes/

I ain't reading 41 pages but from the first few I read it does just seem like he's a bit of a weirdo but he hasn't done anything illegal or worth publically airing, the fact that she continues the conversation and adds him on Snapchat and doesn't shut him down, while saying in the doc how she has no interest but doesn't actually say that to him. I can't stand George but it does seem like he's just being outed for being weird in DMs, nothing worth trying to cancel the guy and ruin any future careers in Esports over though, maybe theres more to it.

He seems innocent, but not so quickly!

Even before a public thread like this came out, there was a prior tweet noting that George may have done this with girls as young as 15/17 and sometimes persisting even when there is a clear no.

Note that there was no proof posted of any of this. Developing story!

The first thing Iā€™d like to say is that this man is 23, I am still pretty newly 18 (turned in December) so while itā€™s not the biggest age gap in the world, it was slightly weird to me.

Yep, and stopped reading there

:gigachad4:


r/Destiny reacts:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/12n46l0/valorant_journ*list_cancelled_for_talking_to_18/

It's all so tiresome.

:marseyitsallsotiresome:


Another plottwitst

Okay so apparently the journo in question is fat. His twitter pfp is catfish level chicaneries.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16815828468751338.webp

According to a PhD in incelogy this was a factor: "Yes thats the thing you are no chad. She would find your behaviour cute if you were a chad. Believe me my chad friends are weider than you still girls throw themselves to them."

Maybe the foid realized he was fat and ugly and then decided to write the document? Who knows!


Relevant family guy clip :marseyfamily:


final verdict:

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