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Video talking about the cafe:
Link to tweet discussing when it first opened
The coffee shop was a worker (one worker to be specific) owned, anti capitalist, anti colonial (?) cafe. Where you could read all from great progressive authors while enjoying a cup of overpriced coffee.
They leaned heavily into creating a safe space of People of color, so no dumb cops or army people were allowed on the premise. .
The cafe also made the wise choice of being open from 9 to 5, the time when all of the working class people were wage cucking lol
They also had this cool idea where you only had to pay as much as you could afford. Surely this wouldn't backfire
Anyway less than a year later the cafe opening, the cafe shuts down and the owner puts at a statement on why it failed:
Unfortunately, the lack of generational wealth/seed capital from ethically bankrupt sources left me unable to weather the quiet winter season, or to grow in the ways needed to be sustainable longer-term,"
The landlord was also giving them a 50% discount on their rent and that darn capitalism still managed to shut them down
Link to article about the cafe failing
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As opposed to the super intelligent anti capitalist hate monger that couldnt keep their business alive for more than a year paying 1/2 price rent.🤔
For most of us it's worked out pretty well! And the alternatives don't look very appealing.
Yes, it worked well if you are a boomer who was able to buy up all the properties and become a full time landlord. For, the rest of us housing has become a luxury. This in my eyes is a systematic failure.
I'm GenX and have been eating the shit most of my adult life. But jcd ain't wrong (and often is), no alternative system provides better quality of life for the majority of people that we've figured out, thus far. Where we're really failing is on who we elect and how we balance our current system. But that's a whole other topic.
You do realize that capitalism is one of the only systems that marks basic human needs as luxuries? The only difference is that failures under capitalism are not properly accounted for. If a person is homeless under capitalism, it’s marked as the persons fault and not the states. If a person is hungry under capitalism, it’s marked as the persons fault and not the states. Since capitalism depends on the core belief that the meritocracy is real, every failure is attributed to personal failure and not a systematic issue. This is why people think capitalism is the best system because every failure is accredited to the individual suffering those conditions.
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Having dealt with co-ops, they tend to be really poorly run and are prone to major internal political drama as different types of employees have different interests. Older co-op owners tend not to want to reinvest in the business to maximize their own returns. Smarter younger owners do want to reinvest so they make more money long term. Dumb younger owners want to do all sorts of different shit. People want to cut corners. People don't want to do bad jobs and everyone suddenly thinks they're a business genius.
Your argument basically boils down to "people are too dumb for democracy to work". I'm not asking this to be snarky, this is honestly something I struggle with myself. Do you think that the problem you describe here justifies the authoritarian mode of production we use now? If so, why is this different from how we run our governments? Should we be modeling our government more like China's to make sure it's run better and not prone to internal political drama?
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it's just laughing at a stupid business that existed in contradiction to what it seemingly was preaching. it's like having a pro-Semitic non-racist Jewish Death Camp or a homosexual who's only attracted to the opposite s*x.
Frick lefties I wish them the worst, this bottom feeding commie hopefully learns what being poor is
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NOOOO THE CUSTOMERS HAD THE WRONG VALUES THATS WHY IT FAILED
Someone make a marsey of the meme
No and I dont care
[Twitter search for the cafe](https://x.com/search?q=toronto cafe&t=SL0NgnPVHsAMTlONYcbNjg&s=09) mostly just capitalist chuds gloating
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You own a coffee shop but can’t figure out how to sell people hot beverages in the WINTER
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Why did someone save this comment?
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I occasionally save random comments to make people paranoid. There's one user in particular I've been stalking since about a week after this feature was added, and I've definitely noticed their posts seeming more on-edge lately.
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Oh, is that what the little [1] next to the save button means?
I'd sooner think that were a misclick than gangstalking. Shit, I've gotta up my schizogame
Edit: nooooooo it's happening you're all following me from my house to my car noooooooooo
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When you say “on edge” are they like edging themselves in the gooning manner or just paranoid?
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king shit
cc @meso @BreadLover69
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I hope that was me
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I accidentally hit the save comment button like twice a week lol.
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People know when u save their comment?
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It's right there at the bottom of your comment, where it says Save [3].
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It probably got swarmed by homeless people
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You mean folx unable to meet the basic human needs that capitalism has arbitrarily codified as qualifications for self-worth and pride?
Noooooo, the unhoused persons are
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Unhoused be better sweaty
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This is in Toronto. Canadians abandon their country during the winter to relocate to Florida where they b-word about America and leave shitty tips.
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Based tbh
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Also lol @
Because i know i HATE hot coffee when it's cold out
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Commies when they try to open up services based around their ideologies:
Meanwhile, the Fashy Chink:
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They got to him
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Nope, he's still going strong
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idk if anyone here is gonna mention it but nice job on the formatting with the show more function smallnips
It segues nicely and your effortpost is good
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Thank you!
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I honestly don’t mind online communists that much but something about Anarchists makes me want to beat them to death with a sock filled with nickels.
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The only based thing communists ever did was bussyblast anarkiddies, repetitively, all through history.
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It's because they can't even be anarchists properly. Anarcho-whateverism is a cop-out and basically admission that you know anarchism wouldn't work.
I don't even know what an anarcho-communist government would do, other than hunt down anyone who trys to trade shit.
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Anarchism is childish fantasy put to "politics"
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The absence of a state and hierarchy among humans is an inherent impossibility - humans will naturally form gangs, leadership and tribes regardless and those will become states in practice, no matter what. The anarchist has no path to get what he wants, and no path to keep it that way should he get there, and is entirely divorced from the very nature of power and structure amongst humans.
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It’s because you’re stupid.
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Think there's something suspicious about anyone who is so devoted to an ideology that promotes a co-operative, voluntary, self-governing flat society that they make enemies with everyone who isn't on board and generally act like an entitled brat.
If anarchy ever was introduced, these types would be banished on day 2.
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Yes. I think I inherently hate lazy people and modern anarchists tend to fit that bill to a T.
Like it’s basically the ideology of someone who hasn’t worked an actual day in their life because they have some fake ‘sensory’ disorder or something and act like they will appraise anime all day while the peasants will be toiling in the fields.
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Yes they imagine there'll be room for a whole class of people who make crafts, read stories to people or generally add no value to the society and that the new fledgling society will accept that when it needs workers and strivers to make it happen.
They basically imagine themselves to be the new lazy upper class bourgeoisie which is why they can't be taken seriously. If they were up to their necks in mud digging the mass graves for their enemies, maybe they'd get some respect.
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It's because r-slurred anarchist ideologies stupidly rely on the good will of others while ignoring human nature and the willingness of others to cooperate. It's an ideology for r-slurs that should be relentlessly bullied.
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I wonder how many commies walked in and said they couldn't afford anything and just went for free coffee lmao
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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I wonder how many chuds got free coffee for months lmao
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ngl I'd do it! Just think of the sadface you'd get from him after you're his 40th customer paying nothing.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Inform all the local homeless they can get free coffee and a warm place to spend their days
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Places like this are money sinks for me, almost nothing makes me pay out more than the truly pathetic
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This tbh, pay what you want is meant to manipulate you into ‘donating’ by over paying for whatever you’re buying. It gambles on taking more money from the insecure than they give out to the homeless. Rich people aren’t going here and paying 20 dollars, it’s the liberal arts graduate girl with 100k in student loan debt
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I'd be willingly to pay a little extra for the sob story usually, but I'd go out of my way to undermine an proudly anarchist coffee co-op.
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fricking lol
IT'S THE CAPITALISTS FAULT IT FAILED!
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more like... un-ethically sourced coffee... funds...
whatever, finish the joke for me
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The Aristocrats!
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I wanted to go check it out when I first heard about them but never really found the time to (9-5 operating hours). but it just seemed like a dumb themed cafe so I don't even feel too smug about it going out of business
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I wonder why they closed
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Holy r-slurred
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Even if they wanted the 8 hour work day , 7-3 is much better for a cafe. These neighbours relied on unemployed people walking the streets , a demographic that just loves to spend on overpriced coffee
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5-3 if we're being honest. Catch the early birds who work at 6am, the usual morning crowd, first-breakers, and first-dater noon coffees.
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Because it puts r-slurs like this out of business.
Have you ever heard the expression, "The customer is always right?"
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how are customers even real like neighbor just get a bailout hahahaha
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So this is what they're calling 'anyone who disagrees with me' now?
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It's what they've always said, same with "reactionary"
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The best thing about leftist regimes is that they always end up massacring fellow leftists by the millions. Better dead than red
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Don't worry, next time we'll kill a whole lot more.
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There is an ancient prophecy predicting his return... I await the rebirth of the Gvlaglord
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"Anti-leftist"? I swear there's a word for that.
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I would go in every single fricking day with $1 then complain about the taste.
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How can you say socialism doesn't work when it's the only economic system that has ever made ziggers productive?
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It was the gulagings, summary executions, and disappearance that made the ziggers productive, not Communism. Russians need to be repeatedly and unendingly beaten by the state (governed by non-Russians) to be useful.
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Just like mainland chinks. Kill, torture, and start insane political campaign so they kneel to you.
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There's a story of Mao going to a mine in order to preach socialism. They all blow him off. So he returns in the dress of a Confucian mandarin and says the exact same thing, but this time they all listen.
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The systematic failure isnt the housing system. Its the failure to beat this shit out of you at a young age so you can join the vast majority of people who have no issue with housing.
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There is something fricked up with rent prices right now, but that's not the redditor's core problem.
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I used to mald at r-slurred urbanists who hate the idea of people owning their own detached homes but now I realize they barely make ends meet paying $3,000 a month in the hustle and bustle and it makes me ok
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"Wow, why is everything so expensive!"
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I'm so happy in the CongoCerebralChud 1yr ago #4162508 spent 0 currency on pingsLol that's not how that works. By that logic, wages in the US would be 0.49% of what they were in 1770 because the work-eligible population is 200 times larger.
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Foids typically don't expand productivity or consumption when working compared to as housewives - the same amount of food, of family homes, of goods are produced because foids don't typically work in production, but they do expand the prices that families CAN pay, so they increase prices. Between that, and the fact that colleges have become 60-40 foid instead of the reverse in the 70s, and a lot less "Mrs. Degrees" that just go to find a husband and don't actually enter the workforce, this has increased the prices for nearly everything, especially things that the Educated Classes buy, like good homes and jobs.
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Yeah housing definitely goes through surges where its impractical and unaffordable but thats just inconvenient timing in the market its not a complete generational kneecap
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Somehow they can't figure out "buy low, sell high" when it's not a meme stock.
I lucked out and bought my house for 90k in 2013, timing just happened to work out in my favor. My mom built her house in 2007, a little less ideal timing.
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The rent is high because they all want to live in the middle of the city, and the rent in the city is already double what it should be because entire neighbourhoods are unusable for normal people.
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Idk dude I’m stashing a lot of cash away and people are selling unlivable houses in bumfrick for $100k.
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Yeah I live in a small bedroom town like half an hour from the nearest small city and housing prices have jumped here in the past two years. I bought my house in 2019 and I could probably double my money darn near on it if I wanted to.
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It does not seem sustainable and it doesn’t seem to be a supply problem (in my area) it literally seems like the capital firms are just buying up land/houses.
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If you think the housing market is good and normal, you are an r-slured delusional cute twink.
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Many such cases.
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Wrong.
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I don't know shit about Canada but I'm sure there's a happy medium between "venture capitalist with 80 rental properties" and "homeless victim of capitalism". Maybe the entirety of the lower and middle class, which comprises 98% of the population? The ones that figured out how to rent/purchase a single property in a relatively affordable area for personal use?
You have access to a roof over your head. You just don't like it because 50 other people are under that same roof.
Having your own private living space is a luxury, not a right.
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This comment in /r/neoliberal :
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He was really the only employee? What an r-slured commie (redundant)
Edit: Chuds are flooding the google reviews. But some of the old ones are great. The soy responds to a lot
Destroyed!
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Getting chucked off the helicopter is too good of a fate for this one.
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Oh no! Now that this lone bastion of coffee-shop freedom has closed, I will now only be able to buy my coffee from one of the many authoritarian colonialist oppressive slave-owner coffee shops who shackle their baristas to the radiator and beat them regularly.
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All people need is a grinder, a bag of beans and a teapot to brew their own I have a bag of rum infused yellow bourbon coffee that's
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Rum infused bourbon coffee?!? That's wild. Link pls?
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Yellow bourbon is the name of the strain lol but here's the rum coffee I use.
https://www.amazon.ca/Jumping-Bean-Newfoudland-Screech-Flavoured/dp/B00NPDWNHM
Here's my Yellow Bourbon coffee
https://www.amazon.com/Bourbon-Peaberry-Coffee-Roasted-16-ounce/dp/B0753458TZ
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