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Crooked Still - Undone in Sorrow [folk]
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Comparing Twilight of the Idols translations

The wisest sages of all times have reached the same judgment about life: itโ€™s worthless . . . Always and everywhere we have heard the same sound coming from their mouthsโ€”a sound full of doubt, full of melancholy, full of fatigue with life, full of hostility to life. Even Socrates said, as he died, โ€œLivingโ€”that means being sick a long time. I owe a rooster to the savior Asclepius.โ€18 Even Socrates had had enough.โ€” What does that demonstrate? What does that indicate?โ€”In the past one would have said (โ€”oh, one has said it, and loud enough, and especially our pessimists!): โ€œThere must be something true here, in any case! The consensus sapientium [agreement of the wise] demonstrates the truth.โ€โ€” Will we still speak this way today? May we do so? โ€œThere must be something sick here, in any caseโ€โ€”thatโ€™s our answer: these wisest sages of all times, one should take a close look at them first! Had they all become unsteady on their legs, maybe? Late? Shaky? Dรฉcadents? Does wisdom maybe appear on Earth as a scavenger bird, excited by a little scent of rotting meat? . . .

by: Richard Polt

The wisest men in every age have reached the same conclusion about life: it's no good ... Always and everywhere, you hear the same sound from their mouths, - a sound full of doubt, full of melancholy, full of exhaustion with life, full of resistance to life. Even Socrates said as he died: 'living ยญ that means being sick for a long time: l owe Asclepius the Saviour a rooster. ' Even Socrates had had enough. - What does this prove? What does it demonstrate? - There was a time when people would have said (-oh, people have said it, and loud enough too, with our pessimists first in line!): 'There has to be some truth here! The consensus sapientium is proof of truth.' - And nowadays, are we going to keep talking like this? Are we even allowed to? 'There has to be some sickness here' - is what we will reply: these wisest men of all ages, let us start looking at them more closely! Perhaps they had become a bit unsteady on their feet? Perhaps they were late? doddering? decadent? Perhaps wisdom appears on earth as a raven, inspired by a little scent of carrion? ...

By: Judith Norman

In this paragraph I prefer the Norman translation as it is a little more direct .

Socratesโ€™ dรฉcadence is indicated not only by his admittedly depraved and anarchic instincts, but also by the overdevelopment of the logical and that rickety nastiness that characterizes him. And letโ€™s not forget those auditory hallucinations which have been interpreted in religious terms as โ€œSocratesโ€™ daimonion [divine sign].โ€ Everything about him is exaggerated, buffo [comical], a caricature; at the same time, everything is covert, reticent, subterranean.โ€”I am trying to grasp the idiosyncrasy that is the source of that Socratic equation: reason = virtue = happinessโ€”the most bizarre equation that there is, and one which in particular has all the instincts of the older Hellenes against it.

by: Richard Polt

We see signs of Socrates' decadence not only in the admitted chaos and anarchy of his instincts, but in the hypertrophy of logic as well as in his emblematic rachitic spite. And let us not forget those auditory hallucinations, interpreted religiously as 'Socrates' daemon' . Everything about him is exaggerated, buffo, a caricature - and, at the same time, hidden, subterranean, and full of ulterior motives. - I am trying to figure out which idiosyncrasy gave rise to that Socratic equation of reason = virtue = happiness: the most bizarre of all equations, which is opposed to all the instincts of the earlier Greeks.

By: Judith Norman

I think the phrase "rickety nastiness" is poor for two reasons. One, while both rachitic and rickety refer to the sickness continuing Nietzsche's metaphor of Socrates as sick, but rickety could both refer to the sickness of rickets or the state of being poorly made. Second, spite is just much more direct as a term then nastiness and does a better job showing the resentiment of Socrates connecting him to Nietzsche's idea of morality.

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Anyone watching the new Bleach?

@BBallAmerican havenโ€™t watched bleach since it ended a decade ago and @BBallAmerican was thinking about doing a rewatch (minus the fillers) & starting the new one. Is it any good? Spoilers are fine, @BBallAmerican read the manga.

Retrans lives matter MtFtMtF

:#reposthorse:

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Universe-ending event as Brian Cox meets Brian Cox.
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Tove Lo - Shifted
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The Mayocide in novel form

https://x.com/WokeArchive/status/1593043604200919040

What would they blame all their problems on then? ๐Ÿค”

Heteros

:#marseysalat:

Buy your copy today: https://www.amazon.com/Last-White-Man-Novel/dp/0593538811

Spectacular review

Like another reviewer, the NPR interview led me to buy this book. Based on the interview I had expected a complex treatment of race. This book started off strong, and then turned totally one-dimensional. In other words, at the beginning I thought that the concise writing was compelling. After about 50 pages in it became clear that rather than developing the racial questions in a multi-dimensional fashion, the author was just skimming the surface. As a result, the narrative became increasingly flat.

I wish the author had used his characters to probe the subject more and thus encouraged the reader to think deeply. Also worth noting is that a part of the reason the book doesn't prod the reader to think is that the author doesn't use common fictional devices like dialogue.

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The Ballad of Brian Laundrie :marseybear::marseyfoidretard:
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I think I first saw pics of this movie on a forum in 1998 and it is the only Bollywood film Iโ€™ve seen other than robot.

This is just a p based clip from it. It must have been a nightmare to choreograph bc thereโ€™s no cgi or backmasking or anything, it was all shot on scene

:#marseytunaktunak:

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TRANS-SPECIES ARE VERY FERTILE INDIVIDUAL, AND WILL OUTLIVE AND PROSPER OVER THE CHUD

Trans Lives Matter (Trans-Species Lives)

:#trumpjaktalking:

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I even sperged out trying to save the sub becoming a bait sub but nooooooooooo it wasn't good enough.

Discuss

@MarseyIsMyWaifu @carpathianflorist

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El Mundial hecho con ESCLAVOS: Qatar 2022 por Dalas Review - YouTube
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Action movies are back bitches!

just please no more CGI blood and gun shots, China and the US both can't keep doing this to me!

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I no longer NEED to be The Santa Cruz Joker - YouTube
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New roulette strategy.

Looking forward to doing business with you.

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NEW ROULETTE POST
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RIP :wolfvictory:
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VatBIPOCs bomb Poland, killing at least two:marseydarkmarsey2::marseydarkmarsey2::marseydarkmarsey2:

@TelegramShill I'll dine on your mothers grave among the ruins that used to be Minsk by christmas:marseysalat:

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Boundaries are good, set them as needed. I have a sneaking suspicion those boundaries , unfortunately, won't be followed but share them regardless. My biggest problem was the way she addressed the sub concerns with "they are making a mockery of CSA and survivors" when, like myself, there are many CSA survivors in the sub who have genuine concerns. And also systems with genuine criticisms for the information she shares. But she chalks it all up to "kiwifarm mouthpieces" which is erasing all CSA survivors and systems who participate here. Not everyone on the sub is a troll.Also, minor note but I was confused on their boundary only because they did say if there was genuine concern for harm being done then it's okay to mention things being said in the sub but later she also said not to do it because the sub is lying. I only watched it once so I could be misremembering, but I'm unclear on how and if she wants to grow from her mistakes if we can't bring them up. (55)

I can tell you there are a lot of hurt people on KF too. (3)

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Hmm from what I've seen on KF there are not genuinely hurt people. I've seen racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist etc comments made by KF people but I've never seen anyone who was genuinely hurt. (17)

You can tell here you have mental health issues, but on KF no.So that's why it isn't obvious. I don't agree everything what's going on KF, but I like that people don't talk about their mental health and their feelings. (-3)

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Lol what are you on about? I view the kind of pda they expressed as under the sexuality umbrella. And im the last person shame anyone over their kinky preferences foh. Dont try to smush my vast perspective into your tiny narrow mindedness. If you didnt understand my opinion you could have asked me to elaborate instead of trying to play this game of twisting my words. I suggest you reread what I said and then if you have any further questions, feel free to ask but I dont suggest you reply with any other similar foolishness. (3)

OK, let's try this then, I remember some hugs, some hand holding, maybe touching someone's hair, maybe a chaste kiss? What have I not seen that was sexual?Also, in writing, the following"(dont know why she has put such things she claims to do for herself on public display, i mean, im a narcissist and i love being watched but atleast i admit it)" sounds really judgy. (1)

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And fair enough, it doesn't cost much to put a NSFW tag on a post. Again, I don't have tiktok so I haven't seen the full context of the material. But that is a different ask then wanting them to privatize a video. And for sure there are reasonable questions to be asked about how they are going about things. But like, some of the stuff I've seen here on this subreddit, while having some valid points, gets worded in such a way that I can totally see how they'd only hear an unhelpful personl attack rather than a different perspective worth considering. So like, it's sucks they aren't listening, but I can see why they would stop listening when things get phrased so aggressively. (3)

A private account on tiktok just means the creator approves who can view the content - eg only approving those who state they are over 18 in their bio. It's not the same as privating a video on youtube, but age gates are pretty standard for nsfw content on most other platforms.I think the problem with excusing not listening to survivors based on the tone of trolls is that it's a slippery path to tone policing survivors tbqh. Criticism can absolutely feel like a personal attack, but focusing only on trolls while ignoring any other feedback that isn't 100% positive is... Well, it is what many privileged people and people with big platforms do, but it isn't a thing to be celebrated by any means, and it absolutely silences any survivor who feels anger or upset and expresses that in their words. It should be easy to separate the hate from the criticism, but as we've seen both with DissociaDID and many other creators, criticism from - for example - PoC is dismissed as being the work of ha... (6)

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While I agree there is a definite need to worry about child safety on the internet, there is a genuine question to be asked about whose responsibility it is to ensure that their experiences online are age appropriate. To the best of my knowledge (I don't have tiktok) while DD's content isn't age restricted, its content is also not specifically directed at/designed to attract children. Like with YouTube, there were concerns about the types of contents being directed towards children, so now creators can flag if they are or aren't a "family friendly" channel. That affects advertising, as well as who the algorithm will push a specific channel towards, as well as the types of community guidelines that are then applied to that channel.To my knowledge tiktok is not nearly as sophisticated, so the platform is going to be more of a free-for-all regardless, and additional user discretion is going to be advised.The jumping up and down video (for example) can be seen as sexually suggestive, a... (3)

That assumes people are not angry at both, but this is not a reddit board for tiktok thus criticisms of the platform aren't a focus.There are issues with various platforms in this regard, but most creators who deliberately put out nsfw content - and that is everything from suggestive art upwards - label all their output as adult only.Does that mean kids can't find it? Of course not.Does it mean kids aren't being encouraged by the creator to do so? Yes.As a creator who specialises in discussing a topic that is inseparable with CSA - ie a trauma disorder that results from early and horrific childhood abuse - it would be expected that that person would themselves prioritise the safety of children. That any nsfw or suggestive content would be appropriately labeled as such, and if the creator is also putting out sfw content, that the two types be clearly separated, and minors actively discouraged (eg with a private account) from accessing the nsfw content.DissociaDID does not need to do ... (10)

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2x speed was also hella long and parts of me (alters) were hella fricking livid that she was making it out as though ppl on reddit are sadistic and get-off on making comments about her. And we all know its about this reddit and not the other one where a lot of people just constantly praise her. 1) I do enjoy (not in a sexual way) the amount of emotion in the video. Like, it feels genuine, even though some things said were gaslight gatekeep girlboss... this is the first time imho that she is actually seeming to be herself.2) Pretty sure at least 30% of people on here have DID/OSDD 40% have some other kind of trauma disorder (this includes ptsd) 20% are probably just regular consumers of her content and a generous 10% are haters. I don't have anything to back that up, other than readily available comments and posts all throughout this sub of people that have expressed they experienced abuse. Emotional/psychological abuse is the most common type of abuse, being gaslit by the webs spun c... (22)

Biggest Lolcow: /u/herionestan

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The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for me

You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at chad and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one on a date with a woman you got a 50/50 chance of getting with her. But I'm an incel and I'm not normal! So I got a 0%, AT BEST, chance at getting with her. Then you add a third guy to the mix, my chances of getting with her drastically go down. See normally competing with other guys on dating sites, you got a 33 1/3 chance of getting with her, but chad, chad got a 66 and 2/3 chance of getting with her, because he knows the other guy is also below average looking and probably won't even try. So other guy, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 0% chance and you got an 33 1/3 chance of winning at getting with her. Take chads 75% chance of winning, if chad was to directly compete with you other guy, and then add 66 2/3 percents, and chad got 141 2/3 chance of ending up getting with her. See, the numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you on dating sites.

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