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When 30-year-old Daikichi Kawachi returns home for his grandfather's funeral he learns about the existence of Rin Kaga, his grandfather's illegitimate six-year-old daughter by an unknown mother. The girl is an embarrassment to all his relatives and is treated like an outcast.

Annoyed by their attitudes, Daikichi decides to take care of Rin himself, even though he is single and has no experience in raising a child. As Rin becomes part of his life, Daikichi experiences the hardships of being a single parent.

Usagi drop comes across as a manga I would want to read, I love interpersonal drama. Saw a few clips of the anime on tiktok, it seemed wholesome and heartwarming.

But wait

Ten years later, Rin is a high school student and the remainder of the series focuses on her trying to figure out how to deal with her feelings for Kouki, and her decision for a career. Rin discovers that she is not actually related to Daikichi by blood, and the series ends with Rin wanting to have a child with Daikichi.

Why are they like this??

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Did you steal this from /r/hobbydrama?


What is "usagi drop"?

Usagi drop, also known as bunny drop, is a manga series which ran from 2005 to 2011. The premise is that the mangas protagonist, Daikichi Kawachi, returns home to attend his grandfathers funeral where he meets a 6 year old girl named Rin. He then discovers Rin is the illegitimate daughter of his grandfather, and decides to raise her himself after his family disowns her. In the vein of similar manga such as sweetness and lightning, the manga is a slice of life about single fatherhood and all that comes with. There is also an anime and a live action movie based on the manga, neither of which follow the mangas ending (you'll see why very soon).

The drama:

During the mangas run Usagi Drop gained a small but dedicated following, which was helped by the anime adaption being released in 2011. Being praised for the art style, characters and story line, the manga and anime became a staple of "heart warming anime", "anime with single dads" and "slice of life" lists. (seriously look up any myanimelist lists of single dad / slice of life stories, I can guarantee you this is at least in the top 3). The relationship between Rin and Daikichi was praised for being an accurate and well written representation of fathers and daughters, and some people even recommended the manga / anime to their own dads. So what could possibly go wrong to make people go from loving to despising the story of Usagi Drop? Well.....

In 2011, volume 8 and 9 of Usagi drop were released. In them Rin, after considering why she doesn't have crushes on the guys in her school, comes to the realisation that she's in fact in love with Daikichi. She then confesses to Daikichi, who tells her that if she's still in love with him after graduating high school he'll consider a relationship. And the manga ends with Rin, now a high school graduate who hasn't fallen for anyone else. Oh yeah, and it's revealed Rin was never biologically related to Daikichi, so the relationship is toes legal now! And the manga ends with Rin thinking about having Daikichi's children.

yeah.

So as you imagine people were PISSED with the ending, and the fandom was divided. On one hand there were people who genuinely liked the ending and defended it, claiming the relationship was totally fine and legal (Did I mention Daikichi was been raising Rin as a father figure from SIX YEARS OLD). On the other hand were people who hated the ending with every fibre of their being, claiming the twist turned what was a heart-warming story of a father and daughter into the plot of a bad hentai out of nowhere, with no foreshadowing or implication that Rin and Daikichi's relationship was anything other than strictly parental.

So while this shitshow was happening on all corners of the internet, a very important question was asked: would the anime adaption follow the ending? Thankfully as mentioned above neither adaptions followed the mangas ending, instead finishing before the timeskip. Again this split the fandom as many fans claimed the anime ending was the true ending, with others refusing to acknowledge the mangas ending or just the manga in general. ("there is no manga" became quite a popular slogan amongst the fandom at this time; just look at the comments on this video). Other fans, even those who disliked the ending, claimed ignoring the mangas ending was dramatic and stupid no matter how bad it was. Eventually this drama did die down after the manga and anime ended, with no new content to draw in fans aside from the movie. However, the ending of Usagi drop is still brought up and discussed in (mostly discussions centre around how bad it was).

The aftermath:

I think it's fair to say that Usagi Drops ending destroyed the mangas reputation. While the anime is still fondly remembered and recommended it's rare now to find anyone who recommends the manga, and even rarer to find people recommending or praising those final volumes. The ending is still infamous in anime and manga history, and it still gets referenced as being one of the worst endings to a story in manga and anime history. The director of the anime even said he had "mixed feelings" on the ending, which is presumably why the anime adaption never included the ending.

And that's the tale of usagi drop! I did find some other details to the story, including the mangas author either expressing regret or publicly apologising for the ending, but I couldn't find any official sources for that. I hope you liked this post, and if you want some non incest heart-warming family stories sweetness and lightening, gakuen babysitters and poco's udon world are some of my personal favourites. (I'm a fan of this genre just in case you couldn't tell lol).

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>So while this shitshow was happening on all corners of the internet

this shitshow literally only occurred amongst super weebs on tiny forums

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Lmao actually no, hand to god

I got hella mad after I got baited into reading the synopsis by watching some innocuous scenes

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keep yourself safe

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I know Usagi Drop only by the name but if anyone told me they liked it I would cut off all contact, shit is fricking nasty. Shame goes for Made in Abyss and Mushoku Tensei

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Apparently the first part of usagi drop is super wholesome and a ton of people liked it. Then the author just dumped the p-do incest arc out of nowhere.

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the author just dumped the p-do incest arc out of nowhere

Chaotic disposition, he would fit in here.

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Yeah that's actually incredibly drama pilled. I should get really famous writing some foid fantasy erotica and then drop the turbo degen loli r*pe arc into the last book.

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Apparently the author is a woman so it's probably unintentional and caused by BPD (Bad Person Disorder)

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Yeah I watched the anime and enjoyed it, then I went to read the manga and found out about the ending

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I obsessively read manga/anime synopses now to prevent this from happening to me

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:marseyhesright:

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I watched made in abyss because it was sold to me as a super dark and grim story, meanwhile it's just animshit along with pedoshit and some watersports

0/10 would not watch again

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Made in Abyss is the most cringe shit I've ever seen. Why are japs like this? :marseycringe2:

Completely blindsided by the author's fetish out of nowhere.

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And one piece.

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how is one piece "fricking nasty"? :djtwan#ted:

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It's length is obscene

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It's made by the japonese

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The character design of the snake women is abhorrent (but in a good way).

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Usagi Drop had me feeling terrible for the main character actually. The impression I got was that at the end he didn't really want to marry his adopted daughter, but just kind of acquiesced to it like he did for everything else when it came to her. She is portrayed as smart and capable with a handsome childhood friend that would make a good bf but she just chooses to stay at home forever because she was afraid of growing up and being on her own.

Imagine giving up your entire life to be a lonely wageslave to raise your adopted daughter only for her to reject maturity and independence to "marry" your elderly butt. Not sure how the author intended for the ending to be interpreted but I thought it was devastating from the point of the father, whose ideal repayment would have been seeing his daughter thrive on her own.

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Yeah that's gross. That's why i stick to korean ones where the main character fricks his mother in law.

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Usagi Drop was written by a woman too, so the narrative doesn't come off as pervy wish-fullfillment fantasies from a :marseypedo:.

In a way that makes the ending more heartbreaking I think. It kind of portrays this generational issue in Japan where parents are giving their all to raise their kids only to see them stagnate and regress in the end.

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the narrative doesn't come off as pervy wish-fullfillment fantasies from a :marseypedo:.

:marseyxdoubt:

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It's very unsexy, and to the author's credit you get the sense everyone is bothered by how fricked up and selfish it is while the father is too burnt out to oppose anything.

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As an author your options are limitless. You do not have to write these stories. You can change them, writing grooming/incest fics is a choice

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True. The ending of Usagi Drop is pretty controversial for this reason. It's very unsettling for the obvious incest and grooming related reasons but also because for most of the series there is absolutely 0 romantic inclinations between the two main characters (thank god). I don't know why she chose this ending, there's no deeper understanding of the characters or narrative we gain from it and the only wish-fulfillment that it portrays is that of a woman wanting to never grow up and be a part of the wider world.

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Usagi Drop was written by a woman too, so the narrative doesn't come off as pervy wish-fullfillment fantasies from a :marseypedo:.

Rather it's the pervy wish-fullfillment fantasies from a :marseygeisha:

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if the MC is of age, alive, unrelated and consenting, sure. It's a completely different taboo, still kinda gross but not grooming a literal child

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Do you not know what a mother in law is?

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Unrelated by blood, gilf enthusiasts deserve their degen manga too

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Recs?

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They're all indistinguishable

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It's still incredibly fricked up and ruins what would otherwise be a charming story. There is absolutely no reason she cant get together with her childhood friend and all of them live under one roof like a proper family or smth.

Why is it always incest?? The time skip honestly just seems like a hamfisted way to dance around the author's real intent tbh. I'm incredibly tired of trying to justify or explain away these forays into pedophilia/incest, it happens way too often and crops up in the least appropriate places. Even Lain and Battle Royale end up pedomaxxing, and it disgusts me more the older I get

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I don't know. In one fell swoop she breaks the heart of her childhood friend and (at least according to my interpretation) her father's. I don't think this is a sexual fantasy and honestly I don't like attacking the outcomes of stories even if it results in endings I don't like. But there's nothing to be gained from this ending, and moreover it's a very narratively disjointed one because there's absolutely 0 indication of anything romantic, even after the "confession". If anything her decision at the end reveals deep psychological issues over being a willingly abandoned orphan that were never properly addressed, which makes the whole thing tragic.

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and moreover it's a very narratively disjointed

if you do a time skip and return to a character who is completely changed with no real explanation, youve failed as a storyteller

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It just made a previously very mature and considerate character into an incredibly immature and selfish one. The precocious girl who took on a lot of responsibilities that her peers never had to in order to make life easier for her single father that sacrificed everything for her now wants to play house with him till he dies (probably early) and then play house with their weird technically-not-incest baby afterwards. I guess you could argue the problem here was that she never grew up and never wanted to grow up.

It makes me think that the main character's lack of romantic relationships and the girl's awareness that she had been willingly abandoned by her parents had resulted in the girl not having any frame of reference as to what a healthy romantic relationship looked like. Which is an even more depressing situation than what I had initially perceived. If the main character came to this conclusion himself he would be absolutely crushed and would think he failed as a father.

There's something so deeply sad about this work, and it's not just "ick" factor imo.

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It makes me think that

P-dophile anime always does this. A story should tell us motives explicitly, or at least leave the inference undeniable or obvious. To have readers extrapolate what it means is to pander to the very obvious pedophilic themes front and center

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A story should tell us motives explicitly, or at least leave the inference undeniable or obvious

Not sure if I agree with this tbh as I think emotions and motives are often ambiguous in ways that can't be explicitly stated. This is pretty much why great works of literature and other media can be so difficult to interpret at times (not that I consider Usagi Drop a great work or anything).

In my experience most p-do situations in anime are usually pretty explicit and repulsive, with the deflections centered around portraying the p-do characters as weak and nonthreatening. It's done with the awareness that the sexualization of minors is messed up.

Older Japanese works (early 2000s and earlier) have this outright normalization of adult relationships with minors where there are no rationalizations or deflections around it. For example Maison Ikkoku carries the whole idea that the woman's previous relationship with her teacher (that she started when she was in high school) was a beautiful thing and not a weird grooming situation that ended early because of an accident that killed him. I just think this kind of shit was very commonplace in Japan (and maybe is today to some extent).

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his daughter thrive on her own.

That may have been the case until the 00's, but the current generation of degerate parents is nothing like that.

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I think it's set in the pre-00's time period but I'm not sure. Anyways it's before the NEET generation took off.

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Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry? Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry? I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually frick her in every hole. Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to frick her tight kitty every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her. As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy, It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

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but I thought it was devastating from the point of the father, whose ideal repayment would have been seeing his daughter thrive on her own.

Clearly the ultimate repayment is tight underage kitty

:#marseypedo:

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Anime is by and for p-dophiles

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In nippon all the p-do manga is out in the open and you have to go thru a little black curtain door in the back to reach the adult woman fetish area

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adult woman

No such thing.

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It's a fictional thing, like isekai

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:#scott:

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Rin discovers that she is not actually related to Daikichi by blood

How do they manage this?

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The family thought Rin was the daughter of the MC's grandpa and his caretaker, when it was actually the caretaker's daughter with some dude. Grandpa just adopted her because her mother was literally too neurodivergent to take care of her :marseyautism: and he wanted to have his family look out for Rin.

My guess is that this happened because the foid author couldn't help herself and the series turned into

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The anime is still well regarded in great part because it chose to completely ignore this twist and the ending.

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Read about a similar issue with "If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord" where a guy adopts a little girl but then she ends up falling in love with her adoptive father later in life but it's okay because the age gap it's only 10+ plus years.

/r/lightnovels defended the author as well :marseyeyeroll:

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:marseyraging:

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Your fault for reading a manga written by a Japanese woman. Female Japanese authors fantasizing about fricking their father figure is as old as literally the first Japanese novel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Genji

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:#marseyitsallsotiresome:

It is my dream to one day visit rDrama and not have to read about child molesters and their victims.

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well have u put the work in to understand the problem?

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I must invent a time machine and prevent the original molestation.

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how far back in time do u think u'd need to go? :marseyhmmhips:

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I'm still putting in the work to figure that out. First stop?

:#marseyyourmom:

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It was pretty well shaped till the end which was weirdest part, it had a romcom setup for Daikichi with the single mom of a guy who had a thing for Rin. It's likely author flipped to that end for notoriety.

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>has the option of becoming a wholesome cult classic with a loyal following

>chooses to become infamous by indulging in pedophilia

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Watch the anime. It cuts that shit out entirely.

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Yeah but knowing the source material ima just avoid it. Apparently sweetness & lightning is a nearly identical premise without the pedophilia

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the older I get the more tiresome avoiding the rampant pedophilia becomes

If you can't control yourself, you shouldn't be around children!

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If you are attracted to adult women with the bodies of children, then you shouldn't be allowed near children.

Any man willing to sleep with a women with tits smaller than size C should be banned from getting within 200 meters of a school.

This is my personal opinion.

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the only heteronormative and inherently cis masculine option is to peepee down fatties :marseychonkerfoid:

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:jin#xthinkerhesright:

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>the older I get the more tiresome not reading pedobait so old that the manga would be legal by now becomes

:marseypedosnipe#:

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Where folks shared much strife and trauma.

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And outrage across Reddit's vast land.

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In the free speech battle, a lose-lose win.

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