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Weekly Mass Discussion Thread #23

!catholics !christians this is the legitimate one. I went to 7:30 AM Mass today then had to go to training for my work and only recently finished.

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First Reading

The LORD said to Moses and Aaron,

“If someone has on his skin a scab or pustule or blotch

which appears to be the sore of leprosy,

he shall be brought to Aaron, the priest,

or to one of the priests among his descendants.

If the man is leprous and unclean,

the priest shall declare him unclean

by reason of the sore on his head.

“The one who bears the sore of leprosy

shall keep his garments rent and his head bare,

and shall muffle his beard;

he shall cry out, ‘Unclean, unclean!'

As long as the sore is on him he shall declare himself unclean,

since he is in fact unclean.

He shall dwell apart, making his abode outside the camp.”

-Leviticus 13:1-2, 44-46

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Responsorial Psalm

R. (7) I turn to you, Lord, in time of trouble, and you fill me with the joy of salvation.

Blessed is he whose fault is taken away,

whose sin is covered.

Blessed the man to whom the LORD imputes not guilt,

in whose spirit there is no guile.

R. I turn to you, Lord, in time of trouble, and you fill me with the joy of salvation.

Then I acknowledged my sin to you,

my guilt I covered not.

I said, “I confess my faults to the LORD,”

and you took away the guilt of my sin.

R. I turn to you, Lord, in time of trouble, and you fill me with the joy of salvation.

Be glad in the LORD and rejoice, you just;

exult, all you upright of heart.

R. I turn to you, Lord, in time of trouble, and you fill me with the joy of salvation.

-Psalms 32:1-2, 5, 11

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters,

Whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do,

do everything for the glory of God.

Avoid giving offense, whether to the Jews or Greeks or

the church of God,

just as I try to please everyone in every way,

not seeking my own benefit but that of the many,

that they may be saved.

Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

-1 Corinthians 10:31-11:1

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Gospel

A leper came to Jesus and kneeling down begged him and said,

“If you wish, you can make me clean.”

Moved with pity, he stretched out his hand,

touched him, and said to him,

“I do will it. Be made clean.”

The leprosy left him immediately, and he was made clean.

Then, warning him sternly, he dismissed him at once.

He said to him, “See that you tell no one anything,

but go, show yourself to the priest

and offer for your cleansing what Moses prescribed;

that will be proof for them.”

The man went away and began to publicize the whole matter.

He spread the report abroad

so that it was impossible for Jesus to enter a town openly.

He remained outside in deserted places,

and people kept coming to him from everywhere.

Mark 1:40-45

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I think the Gospel reading is quite silly.

:marseyjesus: "hey please don't go telling everyone about my miraculous abilities."

:derpthumbsup: "yeah sure"

:derpsnickering: "hey everyone check out this Jesus guy, he cured my leprosy"

:marseymarch: "HI JESUS!"

:marseyjesus: :fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu:

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Weekly Mass Discussion Thread #23

It's Sunday and @TheDunceonMaster hasn't made the Weekly Mass Discussion Thread yet. Since the christards forgot to make a thread, I'm making one, with the scripture being discussed today being the spine-tingling, bone-chilling, slow-burn, politically relevant film Mass.

First Reading:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mass_2021/reviews

MASS is an ASTOUNDING, RAW, HEARTSHATTERING, & EMOTIONAL Movie. Incredibly written/directed by Kranz, but MASS is a performance driven movie. Isaacs & Birney are EXCELLENT.

This is just one of the amazing reviews you will see for this genre-defining film by the critics we all know and trust.

Responsorial Psalm

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/mass-movie-review-2021

An out-of-nowhere triumph, "Mass" is the sort of American drama that you rarely see anymore: an intimate four-character piece about the aftermath of a school shooting that unfolds mostly in one room, letting a powerhouse cast and a thoughtful script carry much of the burden of meaning.

Martha Plimpton and Jason Isaacs play the parents of a teenage boy who was one of ten students murdered in a school shooting. Ann Dowd and Reed Birney are the parents of the killer, a depressed and disturbed young man. The couples agree to sit at a table in the basement of an Episcopalian church and talk about, well, everything, in hopes of moving past depression, grief and anger, through catharsis, and toward a state of acceptance, or at least insight.

There's a brief setup featuring Michelle N. Carter as the social worker handling the details of the meeting, and Breeda Wool as a woman who works at the church, and is helpful to the point of being unnerving, but the vast majority of the film consists of the four main characters doing the hard work of confronting the unspeakable. The results are never less than riveting, and there are multiple moments—democratically distributed among the four leads—that are as good as screen acting can get.

Although "Mass" is an original work written for the screen by its director, actor Fran Kranz—in his feature filmmaking debut—it has the feel of a stage play or live TV drama that was subsequently adapted for the big screen, during an era when people would happily pay to see theatrical films about adults in the real world, dealing with life-changing events that could actually happen. Film buffs may be reminded of such claustrophobic stage-to-screen classics as "Days of Wine and Roses," "Marty," "12 Angry Men," "Vanya on 42 St." and "Glengarry Glen Ross." The film's excellence in every department earns these comparisons.

From the moment that Plimpton and Isaacs's characters, Jay and Gail, arrive at the church, tension starts coiling up, and you just know that when it's finally released, it'll be something to see. Plimpton, a 1980s youth star whose character actor phase has been consistently fascinating, captures the buried rage of a mom whose agony over losing a son in an act of obscene violence was magnified by the frustration of seeing the parents of the perpetrator protect themselves from legal and financial blame on the advice of legal counsel. From the second that she appears onscreen, you expect her to explode at some point; her exasperated and openly hostile expressions as the other couple obfuscates, minimizes, qualifies and otherwise tries to tamp down the tension in the room are all little masterpieces of reactive acting. Isaacs, however, catches up with Plimpton, as we start to discern that, even though Jay carries himself as a "voice of reason"-type who has done the right reading and consulted the right experts and thinks of himself as a mediator between his wife and the rest of the world, he's sitting on a megaton of anger himself.

Dowd's Linda and Birney's Richard initially come across as representatives of a specific type of middle American suburbanite, with a placid, peaceful-yet-resolute demeanor that reads as conciliatory and sensitive but that pretty soon starts to seem condescending and self-protecting. You see their vibe rather often among reactionaries who've figured out how to come across as presentable when dealing with people outside of the tribe.

Richard, the only character dressed formally, warns Jay and Gail at the top of their meeting that he has somewhere to be, and spends much of the first third of the sit-down seeming as if his main goal is to deflect blame from himself and his wife. He keeps reminding the others that this is a complicated situation and that the tragedy has many possible causes, that it's not possible to reduce it to any one problem, and soon enough you're rolling your eyes along with Gail, because it seems as if Richard has come to this meeting with a bad faith attitude, and cares mainly about not saying or doing anything actionable (even though both couples signed papers stating that they wouldn't use anything said in that room for legal purposes).

The film touches on the deeply relevant issue of Bad Faith attitudes in debates, especially about mass shootings.

Second Reading (actually viewing)

What's incredible is that this revelation comes 36 minutes into the film. Until then, you don't even know why these people are having this conversation. Masterpiece of a screenplay

The most intense and raw film you'll see in a long time....four stars to all the cast...heartbreaking...

Wow, you can FEEL the tension, this movie looks outstanding

Gospel

https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/s0800p/i_never_post_in_this_sub_but_mass_2021_was_hands

I just saw this film on Amazon Prime because I saw that Ann Dowd was in it and I'm a huge Handmaid fan. I went in almost completely blind reading nothing other than the description.

I was completely blown away by this movie. It's unbearably tense, and it really feels…real. Like we as an audience are a fly on the wall in the conversation taking place. All the performances are excellent, but Jason Isaacs in particular I think gives an Oscar worthy performance. Martha Plimpton coming in close second.

I just finished, and I am sitting here trying to process what I saw and frick, the acting and the dialogue. Just wow

Which leads me to ask: How are more people not talking about this movie?!?! Maybe it's because the subject matter is so heavy, and utterly heartbreaking.

Please, do yourself a favor and watch this movie. It's only 3.99 on Amazon in the US.

What are your thoughts on the film? What does it say about society?

!atheists

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17076889523177168.webp

:marseydab:

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Found this wise proverb while I was out antiquing.

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I think the Pope is a meme, but we should be able to find common ground.

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THEY FRICKING CAN'T. because they believe "screwing" is wrong and they'll go to heck for doing it. Also, they are too stupid to actually do it.

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The pope has confirmed that this is real.
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If Jesus isn't real then explain this. Checkmate atheists.
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i don't see any FRICKING vocal cords!

hahahaha religious r-slurs really are something else. how tf is a snake gonna talk without vocal cords? lmao

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Hmmmm.... sounds like God is maybe... uh... fake? hahaha

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Ash Wednesday is coming up. What are you giving up for Lent and why?

https://media.giphy.com/media/x6VBAgguVAzViY4Hpf/giphy.webp

I'm going to give up posting low effort racist jokes on a certain gay cat dating website. It's strictly :marseytrain2: bashing for 40 days.

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It's wine, idiots :marseysmug3:

:fatpriest: have been telling you :marseychristchanreading: that you're drinking the divinely transubstantiated blood of :marseycrucified:, but it's been store bought wine the whole time. Wine doesn't even taste like blood :roflmao: You larpers want to be le epic cannibals like the Aztecs :marseyjaguarwarrior:, but don't have the balls to go for the real deal. You've been drinking grape juice! Holy shit, it's been thousands of years and none you guys have noticed :lolface:

Meme religion for nerds who can't tell the difference between human flesh and crackers. Maybe take a break from knitting rosary beads and go outside :marseygrass:

:#marseytheyhaterhermessage:

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Remember when Jesus took all the sins of man unto himself in Gethsemane and still chose to die for us

He was so real for that

Thank You Jesus

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The first thing you should do? Give them a giant hug and tell them you love them no matter what and “we will figure this out together”. You can even tel them “I don't really understand what you are going through. But I will learn and I need your help to learn.” But then you have to be open to listening to them.

The second thing you should do is find a qualified queer-affirming therapist to help the both of you learn to navigate this new change in your lives.

AFFIRM them sweaty

Oh no! Please don't go to the bishop.

wonder why not :marseyclueless:

One suggestion I don't think I've seen yet is to talk to transgender people. They can give your some insight into what your daughter's going through, what challenges she's going to face in the future, and strategies to get through them.

You could try talking to people on Reddit. /r/asktransgender appears to be active.

You could also find a therapist specializing in gender-affirming care and ask if they have any advice for finding communities, or even if they know someone who would be willing to give some insights.

And talk to parents of transgender women! They can empathize with how you're feeling, and can give some insights.

Seek affirmation from other trains!

Love and learn. You'll have to go outside the Mormon bubble to find other trans people and befriend them to really learn what it is to be transgender. You'll have to set aside so many prejudices to understand that it's not a social trend. It's been a natural part of humanity since forever, long before the Adam and Eve myth. But just love and listen and believe your child's feelings. Don't read or believe LDS defenders saying transgender people are just a trend. They are real people and they are who they are. Give support both emotional and financial and never force them to be part of a religion (yours) that has placed transgender people at the very bottom of the barrel, not even acknowledging them as real.

its not just a trend, promise! give financial support!

I don't think it is a "popular trend." I think it is what happens when a social stigma is lifted. It seems more common now because it is no longer being as suppressed by society as it used to be. There was a similar situation with left-handedness.

its the same!

I choose my kiddo over my dogma.

why do they always call them "kiddo" :marseyraging:

Love your child! Educate yourself!! This is not a socially driven decision on your child's part!!

educate yourself! *reads bible for guidance* NO NOT LIKE THAT

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Are cute trans catholic girls welcome here?
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Important announcement

This is a reminder to everyone that this year Easter is early (31st of March), which also means a very early Lent- it starts on 14th of February, in less than two weeks.

That is all

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Weekly Mass Discussion Thread #22

!catholics !christians :t#addance:

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First Reading

Job spoke, saying:

Is not man's life on earth a drudgery?

Are not his days those of hirelings?

He is a slave who longs for the shade,

a hireling who waits for his wages.

So I have been assigned months of misery,

and troubled nights have been allotted to me.

If in bed I say, "When shall I arise?"

then the night drags on;

I am filled with restlessness until the dawn.

My days are swifter than a weaver's shuttle;

they come to an end without hope.

Remember that my life is like the wind;

I shall not see happiness again.

-Job 7:1-4, 6-7

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Responsorial Psalm

R. Alleluia.

Great is our Lord and mighty in power;

to his wisdom there is no limit.

The LORD sustains the lowly;

the wicked he casts to the ground.

R. Praise the Lord, who heals the brokenhearted.

-Psalms 147:5-6

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

If I preach the gospel, this is no reason for me to boast,

for an obligation has been imposed on me,

and woe to me if I do not preach it!

If I do so willingly, I have a recompense,

but if unwillingly, then I have been entrusted with a stewardship.

What then is my recompense?

That, when I preach,

I offer the gospel free of charge

so as not to make full use of my right in the gospel.

Although I am free in regard to all,

I have made myself a slave to all

so as to win over as many as possible.

To the weak I became weak, to win over the weak.

I have become all things to all, to save at least some.

All this I do for the sake of the gospel,

so that I too may have a share in it.

1 Corinthians 9:16-19, 22-23

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Gospel

On leaving the synagogue

Jesus entered the house of Simon and Andrew with James and John.

Simon's mother-in-law lay sick with a fever.

They immediately told him about her.

He approached, grasped her hand, and helped her up.

Then the fever left her and she waited on them.

When it was evening, after sunset,

they brought to him all who were ill or possessed by demons.

The whole town was gathered at the door.

He cured many who were sick with various diseases,

and he drove out many demons,

not permitting them to speak because they knew him.

Rising very early before dawn, he left

and went off to a deserted place, where he prayed.

Simon and those who were with him pursued him

and on finding him said, "Everyone is looking for you."

He told them, "Let us go on to the nearby villages

that I may preach there also.

For this purpose have I come."

So he went into their synagogues,

preaching and driving out demons throughout the whole of Galilee.

-Mark 1:29-39

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Job is so keyed. I find it interesting that there were so many people possessed by demons in ancient Judea, I wonder how many of them were just mentally ill people. Or perhaps demonic possession is the source of mental illness, and modern psychology denying this holds us back from treating many people.

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Pretty :marseyglam: Churches

Here are some recently built churches that are very pretty :marseyglam:

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New :marseygolem: :stoningbibles:

The :marseygolem: is St. Peter btw

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it is ortho :marseydisgust: but still p cool

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!catholics !christians I will continue posting these to /h/dioceseofrdrama rather than /h/truth for now since I'm following the Catholic liturgical calendar for these.

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First Reading

Moses spoke to all the people, saying:

"A prophet like me will the LORD, your God, raise up for you

from among your own kin;

to him you shall listen.

This is exactly what you requested of the LORD, your God, at Horeb

on the day of the assembly, when you said,

'Let us not again hear the voice of the LORD, our God,

nor see this great fire any more, lest we die.'

And the LORD said to me, 'This was well said.

I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their kin,

and will put my words into his mouth;

he shall tell them all that I command him.

Whoever will not listen to my words which he speaks in my name,

I myself will make him answer for it.

But if a prophet presumes to speak in my name

an oracle that I have not commanded him to speak,

or speaks in the name of other gods, he shall die.'"

-Deuteronomy 18:15-20

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Responsorial Psalm

R. (8) If today you hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

Come, let us sing joyfully to the LORD;

let us acclaim the rock of our salvation.

Let us come into his presence with thanksgiving;

let us joyfully sing psalms to him.

R. If today you hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

Come, let us bow down in worship;

let us kneel before the LORD who made us.

For he is our God,

and we are the people he shepherds, the flock he guides.

R. If today you hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

Oh, that today you would hear his voice:

"Harden not your hearts as at Meribah,

as in the day of Massah in the desert,

Where your fathers tempted me;

they tested me though they had seen my works."

R. If today you hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

-Psalms 95:1-2, 6-7, 7-9

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

I should like you to be free of anxieties.

An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord,

how he may please the Lord.

But a married man is anxious about the things of the world,

how he may please his wife, and he is divided.

An unmarried woman or a virgin is anxious about the things of the Lord,

so that she may be holy in both body and spirit.

A married woman, on the other hand,

is anxious about the things of the world,

how she may please her husband.

I am telling you this for your own benefit,

not to impose a restraint upon you,

but for the sake of propriety

and adherence to the Lord without distraction.

-1 Corinthians 7:32-35

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Gospel

Then they came to Capernaum,

and on the sabbath Jesus entered the synagogue and taught.

The people were astonished at his teaching,

for he taught them as one having authority and not as the scribes.

In their synagogue was a man with an unclean spirit;

he cried out, "What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth?

Have you come to destroy us?

I know who you are—the Holy One of God!"

Jesus rebuked him and said,

"Quiet! Come out of him!"

The unclean spirit convulsed him and with a loud cry came out of him.

All were amazed and asked one another,

"What is this?

A new teaching with authority.

He commands even the unclean spirits and they obey him."

His fame spread everywhere throughout the whole region of Galilee.

-Mark 1:21-28

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"The people were astonished at his teaching, for he taught them as one having authority and not as the scribes." Jesus came at a time when the Jewish faith was in spiritual decline. The utter state of the religion after the fall of the Temple demonstrates this. Paul's message is the ultimate argument against !incels. If you are free from the duties of relationships, why do you waste effort that could be spent on holy things on trying to enter one?

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Is there a NSV2CE zipper Bible yet?

On Monday someone at Mass said they had one on order from Ignatius but I can't find any reference to one. My EDC zipper RSVCE so becoming crummy from use and the gilded pages are turning green so I need something new.

I tried this last week carrying one of my NABREs but I don't see much for it on an daily basis and I don't like the changes to the apocrypha and lack of red text for Christ's voice. Not to mention it's not as portable since I like to just toss my zipper Bible in my rucksack for work and not have to worry about damage

If not zipper I could really use something more durable that's complete and not just a psalms/nt abridgment.

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