Hello friends, my neighbor @HadalZoneShill has yet to post the weekly thread so I shall do so instead. The readings this week focus greatly upon the idea of heaven as a great feast or banquet and deal with who will be accepted into heaven and how you should attempt to get there as well. Here they are:

First Reading

On this mountain the LORD of hosts

will provide for all peoples

a feast of rich food and choice wines,

juicy, rich food and pure, choice wines.

On this mountain he will destroy

the veil that veils all peoples,

the web that is woven over all nations;

he will destroy death forever.

The Lord GOD will wipe away

the tears from every face;

the reproach of his people he will remove

from the whole earth; for the LORD has spoken.

On that day it will be said:

"Behold our God, to whom we looked to save us!

This is the LORD for whom we looked;

let us rejoice and be glad that he has saved us!"

For the hand of the LORD will rest on this mountain.

Isaiah 25:6-10

Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

I know how to live in humble circumstances;

I know also how to live with abundance.

In every circumstance and in all things

I have learned the secret of being well fed and of going hungry,

of living in abundance and of being in need.

I can do all things in him who strengthens me.

Still, it was kind of you to share in my distress.

My God will fully supply whatever you need,

in accord with his glorious riches in Christ Jesus.

To our God and Father, glory forever and ever. Amen.

Philippians 4:12-14, 19-20

Gospel

Jesus again in reply spoke to the chief priests and elders of the people

in parables, saying,

"The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king

who gave a wedding feast for his son.

He dispatched his servants

to summon the invited guests to the feast,

but they refused to come.

A second time he sent other servants, saying,

'Tell those invited: "Behold, I have prepared my banquet,

my calves and fattened cattle are killed,

and everything is ready; come to the feast."'

Some ignored the invitation and went away,

one to his farm, another to his business.

The rest laid hold of his servants,

mistreated them, and killed them.

The king was enraged and sent his troops,

destroyed those murderers, and burned their city.

Then he said to his servants, 'The feast is ready,

but those who were invited were not worthy to come.

Go out, therefore, into the main roads

and invite to the feast whomever you find.'

The servants went out into the streets

and gathered all they found, bad and good alike,

and the hall was filled with guests.

But when the king came in to meet the guests,

he saw a man there not dressed in a wedding garment.

The king said to him, 'My friend, how is it

that you came in here without a wedding garment?'

But he was reduced to silence.

Then the king said to his attendants, 'Bind his hands and feet,

and cast him into the darkness outside,

where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.'

Many are invited, but few are chosen."

Matthew 22:1-14

I've gone to 2 masses so far with different homilies, but they spoke on the same things so I think the message is quite important. In the Gospel, Jesus is very clear about what he is describing in the very first line, "the kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son." Who is invited is what is more important to this, but it is also important to note what is said about heaven itself as well. This ties into the first reading, heaven is a feast with rich food and choice wines or a wedding feast. The king first invites specific guests who I believe are meant to be the old Jews. The ones who rejected his message were the ones who were living in the lifetime of Jesus or before Jesus who, even after receiving his invitation to come into heaven, refused him as the savior and so they were sentenced to Heck for eternity. It is important to make the distinction here that these are not the modern day Jews or at least not all of them as they still have a chance to convert (they are still alive after all) and may still have a chance to do so after they die as well and simply being a Jew does not mean you necessarily renounce Christ as many are born into their faith as a Jew and don't seek out further information than that. Next, everyone, good and bad alike, are allowed into heaven. This is the new covenant which includes not only Jews but also Gentiles, even those who have sinned as they may repent for their sins and be saved. Jesus, in his time, walked among both righteous men as well as prostitutes and tax collectors and they were all accepted by him. Finally, the king finds one among those already in his feast who is not worthy to be there; I think this is someone who entered into the kingdom of heaven but still holds some belief that is sinful or is unwilling to give up some sin he has committed. This person is thrown out of heaven to a place where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Through the Gospel, we can see who will be allowed into heaven, but the readings don't stop there as the second reading gives us insight into how we can become worthy to get into heaven. God will supply for us whatever we need and it is through God that we should find our way into heaven if we only ask for his help. Paul states that he has been in all circumstances and has persevered because God helped him do so and because Paul has been able in any situation, there should be no excuse regardless of where we are in life as God will provide for us whatever we need.

What do you guys think of the readings? Was my writeup apt? Is there something I missed or misinterpreted? !catholics discuss

It's everyone's favorite day of the week today: Sunday! !catholics !christians ahh yeah let's talk Bible

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First Reading

Let me now sing of my friend,

my friend's song concerning his vineyard.

My friend had a vineyard

on a fertile hillside;

he spaded it, cleared it of stones,

and planted the choicest vines;

within it he built a watchtower,

and hewed out a wine press.

Then he looked for the crop of grapes,

but what it yielded was wild grapes.

Now, inhabitants of Jerusalem and people of Judah,

judge between me and my vineyard:

What more was there to do for my vineyard

that I had not done?

Why, when I looked for the crop of grapes,

did it bring forth wild grapes?

Now, I will let you know

what I mean to do with my vineyard:

take away its hedge, give it to grazing,

break through its wall, let it be trampled!

Yes, I will make it a ruin:

it shall not be pruned or hoed,

but overgrown with thorns and briers;

I will command the clouds

not to send rain upon it.

The vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel,

and the people of Judah are his cherished plant;

he looked for judgment, but see, bloodshed!

for justice, but hark, the outcry!

-Isaiah 5:1-5

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

Have no anxiety at all, but in everything,

by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving,

make your requests known to God.

Then the peace of God that surpasses all understanding

will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

Finally, brothers and sisters,

whatever is true, whatever is honorable,

whatever is just, whatever is pure,

whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious,

if there is any excellence

and if there is anything worthy of praise,

think about these things.

Keep on doing what you have learned and received

and heard and seen in me.

Then the God of peace will be with you.

-Philippians 4:6-9

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Gospel

Jesus said to the chief priests and the elders of the people:

"Hear another parable.

There was a landowner who planted a vineyard,

put a hedge around it, dug a wine press in it, and built a tower.

Then he leased it to tenants and went on a journey.

When vintage time drew near,

he sent his servants to the tenants to obtain his produce.

But the tenants seized the servants and one they beat,

another they killed, and a third they stoned.

Again he sent other servants, more numerous than the first ones,

but they treated them in the same way.

Finally, he sent his son to them, thinking,

'They will respect my son.'

But when the tenants saw the son, they said to one another,

'This is the heir.

Come, let us kill him and acquire his inheritance.'

They seized him, threw him out of the vineyard, and killed him.

What will the owner of the vineyard do to those tenants when he comes?"

They answered him,

"He will put those wretched men to a wretched death

and lease his vineyard to other tenants

who will give him the produce at the proper times."

Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures:

The stone that the builders rejected

has become the cornerstone;

by the Lord has this been done,

and it is wonderful in our eyes?

Therefore, I say to you,

the kingdom of God will be taken away from you

and given to a people that will produce its fruit."

-Matthew 21:33-43

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The Gospel here is the one that stuck out to me most to me. The parable seems to be an obvious allegory: the Jews were given so much by God, yet ignore his will and even kill his messengers and his son. Seeing that they will not accept Christianity, God warns that the Gentiles are to become the inheritors of his kingdom, as seen with modern Christians mostly not being Jews.

I have had revealed to me the Truth and the way of GOD, and I will be creating a new trans-lation of the bible, one chapter per day which reveals the majesty and wonder of god's way, emphasizing god's love and acceptance of trans women. I welcome you to join me for discussion and celebration below. My current plan is to interpolate between the new american bible, which I've read, the king james bible, which is said to be poetic, and my divine revelation (I'm forgetful and need the others to prompt me.) Each chapter will be posted as a comment to the preceding chapter. A separate comment will be made detailing changes, and rational with each chapter.

!catholics oh yeah it's the best day of the week again. I have a sore throat.

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First Reading

Thus says the LORD:

You say, "The LORD's way is not fair!"

Hear now, house of Israel:

Is it my way that is unfair, or rather, are not your ways unfair?

When someone virtuous turns away from virtue to commit iniquity, and dies,

it is because of the iniquity he committed that he must die.

But if he turns from the wickedness he has committed,

and does what is right and just,

he shall preserve his life;

since he has turned away from all the sins that he has committed,

he shall surely live, he shall not die.

-Ezekiel 18:25-28

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

If there is any encouragement in Christ,

any solace in love,

any participation in the Spirit,

any compassion and mercy,

complete my joy by being of the same mind, with the same love,

united in heart, thinking one thing.

Do nothing out of selfishness or out of vainglory;

rather, humbly regard others as more important than yourselves,

each looking out not for his own interests,

but also for those of others.

Have in you the same attitude

that is also in Christ Jesus,

Who, though he was in the form of God,

did not regard equality with God

something to be grasped.

Rather, he emptied himself,

taking the form of a slave,

coming in human likeness;

and found human in appearance,

he humbled himself,

becoming obedient to the point of death,

even death on a cross.

Because of this, God greatly exalted him

and bestowed on him the name

which is above every name,

that at the name of Jesus

every knee should bend,

of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

and every tongue confess that

Jesus Christ is Lord,

to the glory of God the Father.

-Philippians 2:1-11

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Gospel

Jesus said to the chief priests and elders of the people:

"What is your opinion?

A man had two sons.

He came to the first and said,

'Son, go out and work in the vineyard today.'

He said in reply, 'I will not,'

but afterwards changed his mind and went.

The man came to the other son and gave the same order.

He said in reply, 'Yes, sir, 'but did not go.

Which of the two did his father's will?"

They answered, "The first."

Jesus said to them, "Amen, I say to you,

tax collectors and prostitutes

are entering the kingdom of God before you.

When John came to you in the way of righteousness,

you did not believe him;

but tax collectors and prostitutes did.

Yet even when you saw that,

you did not later change your minds and believe him."

-Matthew 21:28-32

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These readings, especially the last one, tackle the theme of long-time sinners becoming redeemed. @Cho-Dai @ggggbabybabybaby @NoUntakenNames01 in this thread you talked about how you found deathbed conversions r-slurred. It's not like there's limited seats in Heaven or a limited amount of goodness God can give. If someone sinful sincerely changed their ways, no matter how late, is that not a good thing?

https://jesusisprecious.org

sorry this one was so late, I was visiting family all weekend and then was on a train with no wifi

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Seek the LORD while he may be found,

call him while he is near.

Let the scoundrel forsake his way,

and the wicked his thoughts;

let him turn to the LORD for mercy;

to our God, who is generous in forgiving.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts,

nor are your ways my ways, says the LORD.

As high as the heavens are above the earth,

so high are my ways above your ways

and my thoughts above your thoughts.

-Isaiah 55:6-9

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Brothers and sisters:

Christ will be magnified in my body, whether by life or by death.

For to me life is Christ, and death is gain.

If I go on living in the flesh,

that means fruitful labor for me.

And I do not know which I shall choose.

I am caught between the two.

I long to depart this life and be with Christ,

for that is far better.

Yet that I remain in the flesh

is more necessary for your benefit.

Only, conduct yourselves in a way worthy of the gospel of Christ.

-Philippians 1:20c-24, 27a

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Jesus told his disciples this parable:

"The kingdom of heaven is like a landowner

who went out at dawn to hire laborers for his vineyard.

After agreeing with them for the usual daily wage,

he sent them into his vineyard.

Going out about nine o'clock,

the landowner saw others standing idle in the marketplace,

and he said to them, 'You too go into my vineyard,

and I will give you what is just.'

So they went off.

And he went out again around noon,

and around three o'clock, and did likewise.

Going out about five o'clock,

the landowner found others standing around, and said to them,

'Why do you stand here idle all day?'

They answered, 'Because no one has hired us.'

He said to them, 'You too go into my vineyard.'

When it was evening the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman,

'Summon the laborers and give them their pay,

beginning with the last and ending with the first.'

When those who had started about five o'clock came,

each received the usual daily wage.

So when the first came, they thought that they would receive more,

but each of them also got the usual wage.

And on receiving it they grumbled against the landowner, saying,

'These last ones worked only one hour,

and you have made them equal to us,

who bore the day's burden and the heat.'

He said to one of them in reply,

'My friend, I am not cheating you.

Did you not agree with me for the usual daily wage?

Take what is yours and go.

What if I wish to give this last one the same as you?

Or am I not free to do as I wish with my own money?

Are you envious because I am generous?'

Thus, the last will be first, and the first will be last."

-Matthew 20:1-16a

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!catholics discuss

And if you think they were truly holy, would any of their more brutal actions still warrant divine judgement or do they get unlimited good boy points?

Sorry !chuds! Sorry !anime! You thought these were over, didn't you? Nope! This one is late because I overslept today and ended having to go to 8 PM Mass

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First Reading

Wrath and anger are hateful things,

yet the sinner hugs them tight.

The vengeful will suffer the Lord's vengeance,

for he remembers their sins in detail.

Forgive your neighbor's injustice;

then when you pray, your own sins will be forgiven.

Could anyone nourish anger against another

and expect healing from the Lord?

Could anyone refuse mercy to another like himself,

can he seek pardon for his own sins?

If one who is but flesh cherishes wrath,

who will forgive his sins?

Remember your last days, set enmity aside;

remember death and decay, and cease from sin!

Think of the commandments, hate not your neighbor;

remember the Most High's covenant, and overlook faults.

-Sirach 27:30-28:7

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

None of us lives for oneself, and no one dies for oneself.

For if we live, we live for the Lord,

and if we die, we die for the Lord;

so then, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.

For this is why Christ died and came to life,

that he might be Lord of both the dead and the living.

-Romans 14:7-9

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Gospel

Peter approached Jesus and asked him,

"Lord, if my brother sins against me,

how often must I forgive?

As many as seven times?"

Jesus answered, "I say to you, not seven times but seventy-seven times.

That is why the kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king

who decided to settle accounts with his servants.

When he began the accounting,

a debtor was brought before him who owed him a huge amount.

Since he had no way of paying it back,

his master ordered him to be sold,

along with his wife, his children, and all his property,

in payment of the debt.

At that, the servant fell down, did him homage, and said,

'Be patient with me, and I will pay you back in full.'

Moved with compassion the master of that servant

let him go and forgave him the loan.

When that servant had left, he found one of his fellow servants

who owed him a much smaller amount.

He seized him and started to choke him, demanding,

'Pay back what you owe.'

Falling to his knees, his fellow servant begged him,

'Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.'

But he refused.

Instead, he had the fellow servant put in prison

until he paid back the debt.

Now when his fellow servants saw what had happened,

they were deeply disturbed, and went to their master

and reported the whole affair.

His master summoned him and said to him, 'You wicked servant!

I forgave you your entire debt because you begged me to.

Should you not have had pity on your fellow servant,

as I had pity on you?'

Then in anger his master handed him over to the torturers

until he should pay back the whole debt.

So will my heavenly Father do to you,

unless each of you forgives your brother from your heart."

-Matthew 18:21-35

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It seems like recently, the readings have focused on standards of behavior for Christians. While last week was about the necessity of spreading the Gospel, this week is about the necessity of forgiveness. We ourselves are sinners. With two notable exceptions , no human has ever been deserving of Heaven. Only through the grace of God are we capable of returning to Him. In this, God has shown us impossibly great mercy, and has forgiven us for impossibly many transgressions. Who are we, then, to refuse forgiveness and to hold grudges against our fellow men? "Judge lest you be judged" comes from earlier in Matthew, sharing a similar revelation. Now, many nonbelievers will attempt to weaponize these passages against us !christians. "Jesus said not to judge, so who are you to criticize me?" The message here is not to declare others darned, or ourselves superior. We are given free reign to oppose sin. "Hate the sin, not the sinner" is a common adage that applies well here: you can oppose what someone does without judging them.

Uhh yeah that's what I've got !catholics discuss.

"Read NKJ, the modern versions are trying to change that"

What did he mean by this?

@Redactor0 @johannesalthusius @Chad_Thunderballs @lain @D @Summerland @frozenchozen @CARPLENCIAGA_MenstruGator @W @ponyblaze @Summerland @dramapus

If Pope St. Pius X told me I was under obligation to cook him chicken dinner every Sunday for the rest of my natural life I'd be asking him if he wanted biscuits to go with it.

You thought it wasn't going to happen, did you? Well, good news heathens: you're always welcome to participate in these threads alongside the !catholics.

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First Reading

Thus says the LORD:

You, son of man, I have appointed watchman for the house of Israel;

when you hear me say anything, you shall warn them for me.

If I tell the wicked, "O wicked one, you shall surely die, "

and you do not speak out to dissuade the wicked from his way,

the wicked shall die for his guilt,

but I will hold you responsible for his death.

But if you warn the wicked,

trying to turn him from his way,

and he refuses to turn from his way,

he shall die for his guilt,

but you shall save yourself.

-Ezekiel 33:7-9

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another;

for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.

The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery;

you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet, "

and whatever other commandment there may be,

are summed up in this saying, namely,

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Love does no evil to the neighbor;

hence, love is the fulfillment of the law.

-Romans 13:8-10

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Gospel

Jesus said to his disciples:

"If your brother sins against you,

go and tell him his fault between you and him alone.

If he listens to you, you have won over your brother.

If he does not listen,

take one or two others along with you,

so that 'every fact may be established

on the testimony of two or three witnesses.'

If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church.

If he refuses to listen even to the church,

then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.

Amen, I say to you,

whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven,

and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Again, amen, I say to you,

if two of you agree on earth

about anything for which they are to pray,

it shall be granted to them by my heavenly Father.

For where two or three are gathered together in my name,

there am I in the midst of them."

-Matthew 18:15-20

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Today's readings focus around the greatest commandment: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." The first reading's message is clear: God's love is to be shared. Those who receive it, but keep it to themselves, are as bad as those who deny it. Matthew's reading reassures us that God understands those who try in earnest to share the Gospel, but find that it falls upon deaf ears. And Paul's epistle reminds us to be awesome towards each other

https://x.com/smashbaals/status/1699555683425742865

Is the Pope a figurehead worth following in this day and age?

hello !dramneurodivergents (!dramatards is the legacy term), !catholics, and !christians.

We like to have weekly discussion threads of many things: vidya, movies, books, animu... but not something that already is on a weekly basis: the Sacrifice of the Mass!

Let's rectify this.

Here are the readings from today's Mass:

Reading 1

You duped me, O LORD, and I let myself be duped;

you were too strong for me, and you triumphed.

All the day I am an object of laughter;

everyone mocks me.

Whenever I speak, I must cry out,

violence and outrage is my message;

the word of the LORD has brought me

derision and reproach all the day.

I say to myself, I will not mention him,

I will speak in his name no more.

But then it becomes like fire burning in my heart,

imprisoned in my bones;

I grow weary holding it in, I cannot endure it.

-Jer 20:7-9

Reading 2

I urge you, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God,

to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice,

holy and pleasing to God, your spiritual worship.

Do not conform yourselves to this age

but be transformed by the renewal of your mind,

that you may discern what is the will of God,

what is good and pleasing and perfect.

-Rom 12:1-2

Gospel

Jesus began to show his disciples

that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer greatly

from the elders, the chief priests, and the scribes,

and be killed and on the third day be raised.

Then Peter took Jesus aside and began to rebuke him,

"God forbid, Lord! No such thing shall ever happen to you."

He turned and said to Peter,

"Get behind me, Satan! You are an obstacle to me.

You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do."

Then Jesus said to his disciples,

"Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself,

take up his cross, and follow me.

For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it,

but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

What profit would there be for one to gain the whole world

and forfeit his life?

Or what can one give in exchange for his life?

For the Son of Man will come with his angels in his Father's glory,

and then he will repay all according to his conduct."

-Mt 16:21-27

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Today's readings center around the theme of God's plan. Something that all of us must realize is that however good we are, God is better. Whatever plans we hold for ourselves are inferior to God's. Since He is all-knowing and all-good, His designs put ours to shame. Not only that, whatever God desires is good for us. To be Christian is to follow Christ's way. It is to be humble and admit that to do the will of God is better than anything you could do independently. To sin is to go against God's will because you believe your own to be better. In this way, pride is the root of all other sins: in order to sin, you must believe that your way is better than God's way. Uhhh yeah that's what I have, I'm not quite a preacher (yet) but I think doing this will be good for my faith and hopefully can help yours too.

>Be Jonah, the prophet.

>Get told to go to Nineveh and tell them to repent.

>”Why tf are you sending me to that shithole God?”

>”Why not just glass them like Sodom and Gomorrah and be done with it?”

>Realize He's gonna be merciful to your enemies AGAIN.

>Frickthat.jpeg

>Hitch a boat in the opposite direction

>God sends a storm

>Tell God-fearing sailors you're a prophet and convince them to throw you overboard.

>Would rather die than see that degenerate shithole, Nineveh be saved.

>Get tossed overboard.

>get immediately swallowed up by a whale.

>Fml fine you win I'll give the Ninevites their stupid message. They're not gonna repent anyway.

>get barfed up next to Nineveh

>go to Nineveh

>deliver Message

>They listen

>Go to cliff

>Wait for Nineveh to be Sodom and Gomorrah'd

>Nothing Happens

>Hefrickingsparedthemagain.jpeg

>”HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!”

attended a friends wedding like only to have my own marriage insulted by the catholic priest for not being christian

i feel like my wife and i attended a friends wedding at a church, and they were fairly religious so there was a lot of bible reading and praying etc, and being atheists, we like just sat there in silence and tried to be respectful, and at one point though, near the end, the priest goes, do you know what it is about christians that makes their marriages so special??? theirs are the like only ones that are truly blessed by god. now, the priest knew very well that many of those in attendance were not christians, and so it was absolutely a slap in the face for us, not because we believe in god but because the message was clearly that our marriage is inferior, and i really had to fight hard against the urge to get up out of the pew right then and there and walk out with my middle finger extended in the air, but out of respect for our friends i didnt budge (apart from shaking silently with anger bc man was i pissed)

im literally screaming, who the frick do these butthole priests think they are to essentially spit on our face in a setting where we cant respond, like because we actually have enough respect for our christian friends to not shit on their marriage??

also like edit: phrasing

edit 2: thanks for literally all the feedback, and many have voiced the opinion that im overreacting; since im an atheist anyway, what difference does it make to me what literally any priest says??? to be clear, its not about a priest talking about my marriage or anyones being blessed or not blessed by whatever deity, and its that we showed up to celebrate our friends wedding because we were invited to do so, but by quietly accepting their priests comment about their marriage being blessed and ours not being blessed, my takeaway is that these people we considered to be our friends accept this idea that their marriage is superior to ours, though they may never say it directly to our face (again, it doesnt matter that in reality nobodys is blessed), and until this particular moment, our religious differences were never an issue and in fact were never even discussed, and maybe im naive to have not seen it coming

im literally screaming, edit 3: im an ex-jw and this was my first wedding at a non-jw christian church, and i had no idea what was going to happen but didnt expect the person presiding over the wedding to throw shade at like 25% of the attendees, and lesson learned i guess