Return of the jedi was just stupid overall. The prequels werent even good but had their moments. The new trilogy was somehow way worse and managed to retcon its own plot. Rogue One was actually good possibly because it didnt have superheroes in it and they were set up to die gloriously. But after The Last Jedi, the most racist film of all time, i couldnt stand to watch another star wars show
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Andor is worth your time, especially if you liked R1. No space wizard nonsense, no idpol shit (even with a Mexican dude lead), just gritty cool shit.
I dont know im so far gone my eyes roll back whenever someone mentions marvel or star wars. I mean theres great marvel films like Blade. Actually thats the only one i can recommend.
Battlestar Galactica is a great show. It took a goofy IP from the 70's and tried to make a serious military drama out of it.
I think you'd like Andor; it stands on its own as a sci fi story without needing to rely on Star Wars shit to be good. It's really nothing like all the other shitty Star Wars shows out there.
as a massive star wars fan (pre disney) i still maintain rogue 1 has been the only good starwars movie released so far
i'm aware of the tv shows and like carp says andor is supposed to be good but i'm still assmad over nearly everything else so maybe i'll get around to it someday who knows
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Unpopular take here but I do like me some Star Wars and I actually thought S1 of Mandalorian was great. I'm not sure why they had to try giving it more of a serialized plot instead of doing an X-Files and just having planet of the week adventures with Baby Yoda and having the main story progress very slowly.
I kinda gave up on Disney+ shows after S2 was a mess.
S1 Mandalorian was really good Star Wars because they gave a legit Star Wars fan free reign to do what he wanted. It turned to shit because after it got popular they just had to Disnify it and turn it into more Marvel-like slop.
They very clearly intended "Baby Yoda's" story to end with the Mandalorian bringing him to Luke Skywalker. You could tell they were really caught off guard by how much meme popularity the character got when they were scrambling to get merchandise made of him after season one. The entire show has just been big contrivance after that to explain why he's still on the show, hoping that people will keep buying plushies of him.
You made the right call tbh. Everything after s1 of Mando has been mediocre to bad. S3 of Mando was messy, Obi Wan was bad, Boba Fett was bad. I didnt even consider watching The Acolyte.
I keep wanting to try out Andor but I don't have any interest. Ive heard its "Star Wars for grown ups" but I think that's missing the point of Star Wars.
I wasn't keen on watching it because I didn't really like Rogue One in the first place (or much of the Disney crap, save for early Mando), but I ended up liking it. Diego Luna actually gets to act, the rest of the cast is great, and if you're an Empire man (as in you like the Empire as opposed to the Rebels), it shows them being incredibly vicious and hardcore. The blonde broad who is in the ISB is good looking too, as is the Mon Motha actress.
I felt the same about Andor, then finally bit the bullet and it was worth it. They could remove all of the Star Wars aspects from the show and it would still work well as an original series. It's just good TV.
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yeah, S1 of mandalorian was fricking my favorite star wars since rhe original trilogy. John Favreau's idea to make it a fricking space western was fricking genius.
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These "racist fans" sound pretty powerful. Pretty based tbh.
They set out to make a show that was very obviously and purposefully lacking white men, they got called out on it, and are now crying about no one watching their slop.
Though "The Acolyte" was Disney+'s biggest series premiere of 2024, "Ahsoka," the previous release, led by Rosario Dawson, had much higher ratings for its debut.
Weird how the "racist fans" were ok with a series starring Rosario Dawson. In fact Star Wars fans were the ones that basically made her casting as Ahsoka a reality. They must have temporarily forgot their klan hoods?
Unfortunately, "The Acolyte" may have had to contend with franchise fatigue before it premiered. But the bigger issue is that there was a very vocal contingent of fans unhappy with the show from the start. These detractors not only complained about the show's casting, but also review-bombed the series as soon as it premiered.
Unfortunately, here's the real reason it bombed. But I want to claim that this other "issue" is the cause instead.
It's as if Lando Calrissian, his cape and that bouncy hair never existed to these goofy people.
They never stop to wonder why people that loved Lando and Leia for decades are suddenly "racist chuds".
"Of course, I'm very sad about the show being canceled," she said. "I just want to let those people know out there who ... supported us vocally, despite and in the face of all of the vitriol that we received and the kind of the targeted attack, I would say, we received by the alt-right β just that you were deeply loved and appreciated. And it made this job all worthwhile for me."
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I was going to keep breaking down this shit but I realized I was only about half way through this strag's seethe.
Weird how the fricking "racist fans" were fricking ok with a fricking series starring Rosario Dawson. In fact Star Wars fans were the fricking ones that basically made her casting as Ahsoka a fricking reality. They must have temporarily forgot their klan hoods, b-word?
mmt of when the fricking latest Charley's Angels came out and it was fricking dog shit and the fricking foid director said it did bad in the fricking box office bc of sexist men not being ready for a fricking fenale lead aftion movie, completely ignoring that 10 yrs earlier Charley's Angels with Lucy Lu, Cameron Diaz did great at rhe box office
I thought they just like get the lightsabers made that way, and there's cultural norms around who gets to use what (ie red = evil, green = master, blue = normal) and its used as a status symbol. What is this?
That retcon has been around for a while, I think it started with the sequel trilogy? Basically you can bleed evil into a lightsaber crystal and turn it red.
Disney already destroyed lightsaber lore for this in the Ashoka novel a few years back where dark siders "bleed" crystals and make them evil.
But Acolyte took it to a whole another level by making them mood rings. At least in the comics Darth Vader had to attempt multiple times to achieve this with his lightsaber and kept failing because he wasn't dark side enough.
But the acolyte chick is super special and unique and more powerful than Anakin Skywalker because of black girl magic or whatever so she could turn her lightsaber red in seconds.
Have you ever heard the tail of Darth Critis the Intolerant? Its not a tale Disney would have told you. They say he could cancel a show by simply not watching it...
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i wonder if it will ever be possible for one of those "show"runners to admit they made a dog shit show instead of blaming WaYcIsTs
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Return of the jedi was just stupid overall. The prequels werent even good but had their moments. The new trilogy was somehow way worse and managed to retcon its own plot. Rogue One was actually good possibly because it didnt have superheroes in it and they were set up to die gloriously. But after The Last Jedi, the most racist film of all time, i couldnt stand to watch another star wars show
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Andor is worth your time, especially if you liked R1. No space wizard nonsense, no idpol shit (even with a Mexican dude lead), just gritty cool shit.
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I dont know im so far gone my eyes roll back whenever someone mentions marvel or star wars. I mean theres great marvel films like Blade. Actually thats the only one i can recommend.
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Andor is legitimately god-tier TV. You can straight forget it's Star Wars and just enjoy it for being good sci-fi.
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It's good, but hardly God-tier. I really liked the mini-arc in the prison.
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I really liked Battlestar galactica
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Battlestar Galactica is a great show. It took a goofy IP from the 70's and tried to make a serious military drama out of it.
I think you'd like Andor; it stands on its own as a sci fi story without needing to rely on Star Wars shit to be good. It's really nothing like all the other shitty Star Wars shows out there.
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as a massive star wars fan (pre disney) i still maintain rogue 1 has been the only good starwars movie released so far
i'm aware of the tv shows and like carp says andor is supposed to be good but i'm still assmad over nearly everything else so maybe i'll get around to it someday who knows
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I am like you. Andor could honestly fit within pre-Disney Star Wars just fine. That's why it's good.
Can't wait to see how they frick up season 2 though.
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I mean empire strikes back was good.
A new hope was practically a disney film but it was still good. The rebellion only had a couple dozen fighters at the time
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There's a whole generation of black women who are successfully climbing the ladder by calling everyone racist. This works fantastically well when you're targetting one specific individual, but it's less effective when your target is more nebulous and unspecific.
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That would require introspection.
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it's hilarious how these people went from
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WHY DID YOU RACIST BIGOTS KILL THIS SHOW BY NOT WATCHING IT GEEZ
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Imagine somehow being more whiny then ghetto lottery neighbors lol
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Unpopular take here but I do like me some Star Wars and I actually thought S1 of Mandalorian was great. I'm not sure why they had to try giving it more of a serialized plot instead of doing an X-Files and just having planet of the week adventures with Baby Yoda and having the main story progress very slowly.
I kinda gave up on Disney+ shows after S2 was a mess.
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S1 Mandalorian was really good Star Wars because they gave a legit Star Wars fan free reign to do what he wanted. It turned to shit because after it got popular they just had to Disnify it and turn it into more Marvel-like slop.
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They very clearly intended "Baby Yoda's" story to end with the Mandalorian bringing him to Luke Skywalker. You could tell they were really caught off guard by how much meme popularity the character got when they were scrambling to get merchandise made of him after season one. The entire show has just been big contrivance after that to explain why he's still on the show, hoping that people will keep buying plushies of him.
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You made the right call tbh. Everything after s1 of Mando has been mediocre to bad. S3 of Mando was messy, Obi Wan was bad, Boba Fett was bad. I didnt even consider watching The Acolyte.
I keep wanting to try out Andor but I don't have any interest. Ive heard its "Star Wars for grown ups" but I think that's missing the point of Star Wars.
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I wasn't keen on watching it because I didn't really like Rogue One in the first place (or much of the Disney crap, save for early Mando), but I ended up liking it. Diego Luna actually gets to act, the rest of the cast is great, and if you're an Empire man (as in you like the Empire as opposed to the Rebels), it shows them being incredibly vicious and hardcore. The blonde broad who is in the ISB is good looking too, as is the Mon Motha actress.
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Andor is super good sci-fi, you can just forget the Star Wars connection. Totally worth watching.
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How does it square up to Lexx
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nothing squares up to lexx. Lexx is too fricking weird for that. lol
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I started up Lexx again after seeing random episodes on sci fi channel in the 2000's. It's just as weird and horny as I remember it.
Does it stay good or does it fall off in future seasons?
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It kinda falls off during water and fire IMO, but surprisingly pucks back up once they get to earth.
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I have neither seen or heard of this
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Season 2 is good. No as good as 1 but still good.
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I felt the same about Andor, then finally bit the bullet and it was worth it. They could remove all of the Star Wars aspects from the show and it would still work well as an original series. It's just good TV.
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No one even remembers Ahsoka, huh. I'm surprised I do, it's not like I watched it.
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I've watched it and even I don't remember it
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yeah, S1 of mandalorian was fricking my favorite star wars since rhe original trilogy. John Favreau's idea to make it a fricking space western was fricking genius.
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These "racist fans" sound pretty powerful. Pretty based tbh.
They set out to make a show that was very obviously and purposefully lacking white men, they got called out on it, and are now crying about no one watching their slop.
Weird how the "racist fans" were ok with a series starring Rosario Dawson. In fact Star Wars fans were the ones that basically made her casting as Ahsoka a reality. They must have temporarily forgot their klan hoods?
Unfortunately, here's the real reason it bombed. But I want to claim that this other "issue" is the cause instead.
They never stop to wonder why people that loved Lando and Leia for decades are suddenly "racist chuds".
Praise we receive is genuine, criticism we receive is targeted.
I was going to keep breaking down this shit but I realized I was only about half way through this strag's seethe.
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mmt of when the fricking latest Charley's Angels came out and it was fricking dog shit and the fricking foid director said it did bad in the fricking box office bc of sexist men not being ready for a fricking fenale lead aftion movie, completely ignoring that 10 yrs earlier Charley's Angels with Lucy Lu, Cameron Diaz did great at rhe box office
https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/charlie-s-angels-director-elizabeth-banks-blames-sexism-for-box-office-crash-119111900160_1.html
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THESE FRICKING PEOPLE HOLY SHIT
that line right there proves it wasn't racist fans because all those racist fans loved lando.
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no need to thank me
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DA CHOOOODS Are why my space lesbians spinoff failed. Billions must learn DEI.
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How am I racist when I want to bang that actress so bad that the lesbian in her will vaporize
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fetishizing Black bodies IS racist, motherlover!
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What the frick is this? Where was the outrage for this instead of lesbians chanting? How did they explain this in the show?
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Apparently now the lightsabers evil jedi use are red because the dark side makes the crystal bleed or something equivalently r-slurred
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I thought they just like get the lightsabers made that way, and there's cultural norms around who gets to use what (ie red = evil, green = master, blue = normal) and its used as a status symbol. What is this?
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That retcon has been around for a while, I think it started with the sequel trilogy? Basically you can bleed evil into a lightsaber crystal and turn it red.
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Disney already destroyed lightsaber lore for this in the Ashoka novel a few years back where dark siders "bleed" crystals and make them evil.
But Acolyte took it to a whole another level by making them mood rings. At least in the comics Darth Vader had to attempt multiple times to achieve this with his lightsaber and kept failing because he wasn't dark side enough.
But the acolyte chick is super special and unique and more powerful than Anakin Skywalker because of black girl magic or whatever so she could turn her lightsaber red in seconds.
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So they went woke and then went broke, b-word?
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You're welcome
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These strags refuse to take the L. You made a bad show. Shut up and move on.
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Didn't the frontrunner say she wanted to piss off all the mayo fans? Neighbor why are they obligated to watch your goofy CW show after that
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Why do racists have good taste
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!slots500 and not just the men.... but the woman... and the childre-
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he killed yuenglings, motherlover!
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Nothing will be learned from this, just like the last 10 years
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Have you ever heard the tail of Darth Critis the Intolerant? Its not a tale Disney would have told you. They say he could cancel a show by simply not watching it...
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Are there even such thing as racist Star Wars fans anymore? I thought most of them disappeared after Palpatine somehow returned
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