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I think someone at WB mistakenly thought the first Joker's success was because of Todd Philip's creative genius and not because of the general popularity of the brand and the novelty of the whole thing. Making it a musical where the Joker is a simp loser who gets BTFO by a foid was never going to sit well with its main target audience.

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Making it a musical where the Joker is a simp loser

That's the first film minus the musical part. He was an incel simping for Zazie Beats (whatever her name is).

Joker (2019) is "what if Taxi Driver, but set in Gotham City".

It should have been left as a standalone, any sequel would pale in comprise t to the success of the first film.

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In the first movie he was a delusional simp who realised what he was and chimped out. I think that's more palatable for most people than dying as a delusional simp.

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What if Goodfellas but set in Gotham would also make a lot of money

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What if Godfather but set in Gotham would make more money.

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isnt that just The Batman and The Penguin?

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I'd watch :marseykino:

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They should have made a musical with Joker killing random people while singing about living in a society. It would've still failed but at least it would've made more money than this :marseyshrug:

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I mean I'd probably have seen that one.

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If nothing else it probably would have turned into a Rocky Horror style cult classic :marseyprojection:

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That's just Sweeney Todd

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they could've done the first :marseywinner: murder :marseymidsommarchristian: musical.

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zoz

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zle

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Nah the first one was genuinely good.

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main target audience.

they are chuds, hence the subversion

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I will go rewatch clips of Mark Hamill and Ledger's jokers instead.

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For a second I thought you were talking about :toddh#owardrage:

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