will be a boxoffice disappointment. Low opening weekend in the US 
as well as international markets. Bad audience scores in USA as well meaning it won't leg out 
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https://old.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1fvrfgw/joker_folie_%C3%A0_deux_rotten_tomatoes_verified/?sort=top
Looking at a low donestic opening weekend.
https://old.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1fvpnhw/looks_like_7m_previews_for_jokerfolieadeux/
Same case internationally as well. 
https://old.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1fvznfu/13m_os_thu_for_joker2_total_21m_weekend_now/
!kino , it's offcially ogre it seems 
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Only really two options as how this happened:
1. Phillips and his writers legitimately do not understand why the first movie was popular
Or
2. Phillips and his writers legitimately hate the audience that they found
Im leaning more towards 2, one of the themes seems to be that people idolize others for all the wrong reasons, and divorce the human from the idea of that human. Either way this shit is gonna bomb
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my man made a movie that caused school shooters and chuds complain he does not want to do that again
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Can't be 1, definitely 2. The "media" that Hollywood creatures pay attention to spelled out who the audience was while they were trying to magic spree killings into existence because lonely young men had the audacity to see a movie they related to.
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It's simple, we kill the filmmakers.
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C) The initial success attracted the attention of the corporate suits who insisted on sticking their fingers in the pie and ruined it. Tale as old as time.
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This is the one I'm going with too, if you combine the fact that over the last 5+ years almost everything movie and TV has a distinct "not for straight males" vibe. I'm not saying our gaybros are rolling in decent kino lately either, but since some of their tastes align with the prime media consuming demo (wimmens), they're at least catching some strays like those pilot fish that swim alongside of big fat sharks.
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I think it's both. Imo, I think Todd Philips and co drank their own kool aid.
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It seemed to me that the media made a bigger deal about the wrong people liking the first one than actually wrong people liking the first one
Kinda like how Redditors hate fight club because Brad Pitt is hot as shit and makes some good points
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I'm pretty sure they publicly stated that incels were doing the media literacy wrong so they made this one to show them
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"whoops, we accidentally made the protagonist too sympathetic and relatable to miserable modern men! Can't have them anything but demoralised l!"
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I don't understand this take either, he's not really sympathetic, it's just kind of funny seeing a mentally disabled man frick everything up and kill people gratuitously for no reason
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It's both
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Who actually idolized the joker, though?
He's a chris-chan tier neurodivergent in the first movie and a complete loser
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