HUGE NEWS REGARDING THE OWNERSHIP OF CHARACTERS FROM AOSTH AND SATAM!!! (a thread)
— Alex "Nintrendodude" Hedgefox (@Alex_Hedgefox2) January 12, 2025
thanks to the help of former sega of america licensor, Michaelene Risely, i have been able to get a hold of never before seen court documents between sega and dic: pic.twitter.com/YYBaMBfHK9
Background
When Sonic the Hedgehog blew up in America Sega of America worked into overdrive to make new Sonic media to fulfill the west's insatiable lust for the fastest thing alive. This led to the creation of two tv shows by DIC entertainment The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog a network weekday episodic comedy ( the pingas show) and Sonic the Hedgehog (hence called Satam due to its Saturday morning time slot) a syndicated serialized cartoon with a far darker tone. As the only Sonic characters in existence at the time were Sonic Tails and Robotonik a whole new cast was created to serve as side characters:
From left to right: Rotor "boomer" the walrus, Bunny Rabot, Sonic, Tails, Sally Acorn, and Antoine the Fox (french )
Robotonik was also given a right hand named in a cowardly Nephew named Snivley and in this story Robtonik was a made dictator who had taken over the planet Mobius, which is Earth after humans got into a war with aliens and the aliens just nuked the frick outta the earth mutating the people into anime people and the animal and human DNA merged into furries (Mobians and Overlanders/Humans are canonically sexually compatible !furries).
Constructing a sprawling mass of factories to pollute the environment and robotizing the native mobians into his mindless slaves including Sonic's parents and Sally's dad King Acorn who once ruled the land (well he actually he was turned to crystal and stranded in the Void ruled by Ixnis Nagus).
This lore ended up being used as the basis for Archie's long running Sonic Comic (290 issues + spin offs and one shots) with some major modifications and developments.
Anyway this is to say to a whole generation of neurodivergents growing up in the 90s Sally and the Freedom Fighters are as important to Sonic as Tails and Knuckles are and they will fight to the death to defend them (and also goon to sally) despite the fact they have never appeared in a game
Well they actually do make a cameo in the special stages of Sonic Spinball which was created by Sega Technical Institute the fully American branch of Sonic Team which made Sonic 2 and Sonic and Knuckles
The new Information
Sonic Satam ended after 2 seasons with season 2 ending on a cliff hanger of sonic killing Robotonik and Snivley being contacted by a mysterious pair of red eyes. A season 3 was planned but never released. There has been lots of speculation as to why this never came out such as ratings conflicts or some very neurodivergent drama between Satam's creator and Archie's very own careercow Ken Penders because both of them were pitching Sonic movies to hollywood without Sega's consent, but now we know the real Answer:
So, to summarize, SatAM got cancelled because DiC was selling animation cells from the show without telling Sega, and Sega retaliated by forbidding future episodes.
— The world of Archie Sonic (@archiesonicwrld) January 12, 2025
(Also Sega owns all the content from DiC Sonic, even though they're never going to use it) https://t.co/rRJa3K52wL
Sega owns all of the DIC characters and DIC tried to sell animation sells without Sega approval. TBF this is pretty common in the animation world but Sega took extreme umbrance to this and cancelled season 3 on the spot. This isn't huge new info as Sega allowed the use of the freedom fighters and other Satam characters in the great Archie reboot which removed all Archie original characters from the book in retaliation for being humiliated by Ken Penders in the courtroom.
Here comes the cope
Sega will totally bring in this decades old characters bros for their new family movie they definitely wont only focus on the super marketable and popular ones
Did Sega frick up or did DIC frick up?
Archie chad calls Sega r-slurred and accuses archie haters of being
Sega and Sonic Team actually just hate fun
To be fair, in this case...They're right.
DIC was selling Animation Cels of the show without permission.
Which you have to be absolutely stupid to do, especially since the show was ongoing.
No, sega is just r-slurred actually.
so they should just let other companies make profit from their property without any compensation?
Yes sega should lay down and die because I hate that freaking company
"Wah I hate this company because my furshit isn't canon."
That's you.
And I have no love Lost for SEGA, especially as a SoR Fan...but Jesus, if you think SEGA is even remotely in the wrong here...
Anyway the simple fact is Sega fricking hates all of the western lore, veiws it as off model to the current Sonic brand, and is just letting Ken Penders do whatever he wants because they don't give a shit and want all this neurodivergent shit gone.
Tho !comicshitters !furries Sonic's creator is an Archie chad
TLDR: There is an neurodivergent civil war because we found out Sega owns all the characters from the old sonic cartoon and is sitting on them, and that season 3 of the show was cancelled due to the animation studio selling animation cels without Sega's approval. !neurodivergents
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Holy shit, this is so unbelievably neurodivergent I now have a weighted blanket in the mail and was made honorary chess grand master.
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I'm surpwised my cwonstant expwosure two swonyic in aww fworms of media as a childhwood didn't twansfworm mwe intwo a furry
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Don't worry, there are other ways to do that !furries FURSISTER CONVERSION THERAPY PRONTO
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It should be noted that Sonic Chronicles RPG for the DS was based on the comic lore, even in the far-flung future of 2008. It's a pity, because the game was half-decent and ended on a huge cliffhanger (with all the characters cheesing like "gee whiz I wonder what crazy hijinks Eggman is going to be up to!").
Fortunately or unfortunately, the court drama with Penders resulted in a full comic reboot. So no Sonic RPG sequels with BioWare.
I'm half-convinced that Sega doesn't wanna to try for a Sonic Adventure 3 because the first one involved a lot of lore from the Echidna tribe, which Penders has ownership of now. I think the game lore has deviated quite significantly since then, but still...
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I doubt it. Movie 2 had a too of echidna lore penders had a tantrum over but he had no case
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are you the 4chan guys gf
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No but doing nothing but anal s*x, sonic spergry, and typing commands on Linux sounds like the dream life tbh !cuteandvalid
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sega japs have no vision which is why they condemn their american counterparts who kept them afloat for years past their prime. @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE still hear the OG american lyrics in @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE's minds ear whenever @DWHITE___________DYNAMITE hear the og sonic theme
that or the "sonic, he's got an attitude" poochie main theme
communism will win
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bingo, thank you
communism will win
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sonic autism is to be encouraged and cherished
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Do they take anything from the cartoons for the movies? Sonic eat a chili dog in one of the movies or something at least?
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Chilli dogs yes, but he likes them in all the cartoons not just SatAM
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Sonic eating chili dogs is pretty cannon now. Its from a rejected sega of america sonic bible which had sonic and tails being kinda bill and ted esch slackers who eat a ton of junk food who really only reluctantly save the day. This was rejected and Ben Hurst's Satam pitch was used instead as the basis of american sonic tho the chili dog thing is a hold over from the junk food aspect of the original pitch. Tho the failed Sonic bible made its way to England where it serves aa the basis of all of the UK's Sonic novels and Fleetway Sonic the Comic. Its why fleetway sonic is such an arsehole.
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Sega will never use the fricking Archie characters as they know sonic would get mogged by the fricking Penderschads
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Scourge is so fricking cool
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Who the frick is Scourge?
I read the comics many years ago... . I was also Chinese, but I got better.
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One one hand that's hilarious and classic SEGA* but on the other I've always emphasized with this strange grief I feel from from the SatAM fans ...even if like half of them have trained out by now.
*TBF I'm not an IP lawyer and this could easily be an obvious mistake from DIC ...although SEGA didn't complain when the AoStH cels started appearing recently, lol
R.I.P. Long John Baldry
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As a kid i watched adventures not satam so i dont have as much of a connection but I am a big archie strag so its always serial seeing the new games or idw where its kinda the characters i love but they aren't the same.
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I used to have a tape of one of the sonic shows when I was younger. I can't remember much other than they had magical musical instruments
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Then its Sonic Underground an even Werider TV made latter with no relation to any Game or Comic. It features sonic and his two siblings being the children of the queen who is usurped by Robotonik as they search for their lost mother and fight ol robo-butt
" Sonic Underground! Sonic Underground! They made a vow their mother will be found! "
BTW the show was cancelled so their mother was never found and also Knuckles is tiny idk why
!comicshitters From some extra neurodivergent lore Sonic Underground is the only non comics media to have an archie exclusive character in the form of Athair Knuckles Great great-grandfather created by Micheal Gallanger and used extensively by Ken Penders tho not owned by Ken
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Yes that's it! I liked the show a lot from the 3 episodes I had. It's a bummer to hear it was canceled so soon and never got a proper ending. You are a really good sonic historian
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Those feet
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That show was such a trip.
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Including you, OP.
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My autism is unstoppable
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Never seen Sonic.
None of them.
Never will.
"Omg you're missing out"
Maybe.
You're missing out on actually good anthros.
Keep your Sonic.
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Ill keep my harem of my furry b-words then
Me and my Femcel Mongoose wife
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Who actually watched Sonic? 99% of people who have ever come to know about Sonic was because they heard of Chris Chan or the COOMcel furries.
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What sonic fans need to realize too is that because sally cant soak up all the gay butt girlboss traits theyve made amy rose, a comic relief character, the resident girlboss
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The inclusion of this information forced me to double-check that this wasn't a BWC post. I guess I should have known when it didn't also mention which B_C Sally is bvilt for, but it's still something a normal person would not have included.
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Its true doe
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When I was a kid, adults who cared about things marketed to children were mercilessly bullied by all of society. Normal adults told their kids that the adults who watched cartoons would molest us if given the opportunity
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I was an inconsistent Archie comics reader when I was a kid, I thought it was the coolest thing ever when Mighty and Ray were added to Sonic Mania.
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??
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I'm seeing many bigoted comments down there so I just want to make this clear : any hate towards moderators will result in a permanent ban from this subreddit with no warning. This includes, but not limited to, calling moderation a "fake job" or saying that we "do it for free" Moderation is one of the most useful jobs to society.
Behave. Or get banned.
Snapshots:
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January 12, 2025:
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Based on what I see here, Sega owns the Freedom Fighters, Could we ever see them show up in other Sonic Media? Imagine if they were brought into the movies.:
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They WILL use them again! It's been decades upon decades. Times have changed. There's new people involved. WildBrain owns the DiC cartoons. The Freedom Fighters are gonna return!:
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Since we're making wild unfounded assumptions about each others motivations I'm gonna respond by accusing you of being a transsexual libertarian:
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That was the reason all along? That's curious,I always thought that selling animation cels was something that companies didn't really care about.:
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Darn what the heck was dic thinking??? Braindead company causing Satam to be canceled that sucks! Maybe that's part of why sega of Japan doesn't want to do anything with those characters/worlds:
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Holy shit i just barely started watching Sonic Satam. Never knew there was this much "lore" to it...
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Swome of this is stuff i nyicked fwom the cwomics like mwobius being earth.
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