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Anyone else think that English class in school would have been much better if we read 40k books?

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I don't know about you all, but English class in high school and college were boring as heck for me. Just had a thought that I would have read way more if a 40k book or two were thrown in there. Just my opinion but books like The Great Gatsby, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, A Tale of Two Cities etc don't hold a candle to 40k lore.

A bit off track, but I read on Youtube once (can't find the comment anymore) that some high school student was reading a manga titled "Berserk" and his teacher mocked him along the lines of comic books being unworthy forms of literature. Somehow the student got the teacher to read a bit and the teacher later said it's the best thing he's ever read.

I get that the books we read in English class are "Classics" with "valuable themes", but you can't say that there aren't valuable themes in 40k. If something has value, but it's boring as heck, then the student isn't going to remember it anyway, so all that value is lost. But if it's interesting, then we're opening some doors. Thoughts?


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r/bookscirclejerk - They should teach WH40K lore in school


tl;dr mandatory lore classes in high school

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How about you read the assigned books AND read Warhammer? That's what I did

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I read a bunch of warhammer books and can confirm they are utter shit with a few miniature bright spots

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Can confirm and I'm reading the ventris saga

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I've never consoomed Warhammer anything, but I suspect mine would have unironically been better had we read them.

One year we had to read Wuthering Heights, it was trash but it at least had some historical importance. Another year we had to read a book called "A Separate Peace", it was about some strags that didn't like each other at a boarding school during World War 2. It was the stupidest thing I ever read. Nothing happened for 300 pages.

:#marseysleep:

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I don't even read a book unless I know there's a fan-made wiki with over 1000 entries you can use to cross-reference important elements of the story. :marseyindignant:

Classics don't even have 12 hour long video essays covering them. There's no depth. :marseyshrug:

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Wuthering Heights SUCKED :tayaaa:

still a better read than anything by Terry Pratchet tho

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Wuthering Heights was a fun drama tbh. Emily was the most talented of the Bronte sisters after all.

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40 thousand is way too many books :marseyshook:

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You joke, but nobody actually knows how many 40K books have been published due to copyright issues.

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To be fair some are short stories

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We had a lot of opportunities across grade school to do English and reading stuff with books of our choosing. Harry Potter was not allowed though lol - every fricking teacher, elementary school, middle school, and high school, when one of these assignments came up they'd say no Harry Potter because everyone would do it and other reasons that were all basically "read another book." A lot of those would usually also cross out some other popular ones like LOTR, chronicles of Narnia, Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew. Anything with a movie too - either based on it or a novelization, but most would allow related books, like Star Wars novels that weren't the movies.

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The largest online book rating site/community (https://www.goodreads.com/) has some entries of the HP as the highest rated books of all time. :marseyitsallsotiresome:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/153860

LMAO it's all YA shit and manga. :marseyxd:

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I'm torn on stuff like this, because I don't know what to snob is so so much better. Obviously classics are pretty good, but I won't pretend everybody should be stuck in the past and be quoting Herman Melville. Blood Meridian? John Grisham lol? Jack Reacher and military porn? Warhammer? My tastes aren't really high art, not sure if Terry Pratchett should dominate the list. If you start filling out a hundred books personally, you'll probably keep thinking of goofy stuff.

https://media.tenor.com/gh6fuVTpXTEAAAAx/mataneven-matan.webp

I'd much prefer more of the next generation to read foid brained garbage than be on TikTok. A lot of books I've found stimulating are really rando things I've picked up that I wouldn't even say are good.

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Reading long form literature in general is very helpful towards education. To quickly read, digest and retain the essentials of a large text will help with practically every other subject.

If the choice is between kids getting to read 40k slop in school leading to them continuing to read outside of assignments that is massively more useful than if they were to read a single "classic" in school and never pick up another book again.

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Any actual work of literature sits at between 2.5 and 3.5 on there with the reviews shat up by people copypasting their epic tumblr gif posts calling it problematic and boring.

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For the state regents exam to graduate high school I had to pick a book of my choosing for one essay question and I flexed on my English teacher by doing Dr. Seuss and getting a great score

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Found @kaamrev reddit account

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You have to be extremely selective in 40k books, most are pure trash lol. Even then the best books are simply competent pulp sci-fi fantasy. Although I do enjoy all the Night Lords stuff.

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This person :marseypussyhat: should :marseynorm: have read the instructions :marseyikea: for hanging :marseysoyrope: in high school :marseyeric:

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who is writing an instruction book for hanging high schoolers

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A lot of people shit on BL books as being shallow, despite the fact that they are wildly popular. The lore has obviously captivated a wide audience, including everyone here who sought out a community to talk about them. That means there is something deep there. It's disappointing that the very audience captured by it seems completely unwilling to take a serious look at the themes it contains.

:marseylaugh: People watching youtube videos titled "top ten epic warhammer moments" is proof of love of deep themes in books.

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>BL books

I thought this was a defense of fujoshit at first

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>you have to spend the semester reading these 20 novels about the feminist experience in Victorian England

:#soyjakanimeglasses:

>nooooo why don't men care about literature??

:#soycry:

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One of my classes was cool because we all got to pick a different Mark Twain novel from a list

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In high school I wrote an essay about how "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" was a rejection of feminist rhetoric in contemporary literature and a celebration of masculinity in a society that thinks that male sexuality and individualism needs to be suppressed and controlled. I somehow did not fail that class.

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Honestly yeah though wtf does that old butt Shakespeare b-word have to do with modern English?

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Well considering that all school reading is exclusively the most inoffensive and boring of the classics, I do think a case could be made that 40k books would have more literary development and quality.

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I actually had a middle school teacher have us read scifi and fantasy short stories where people got r*ped and murdered in gruesome ways. I think that was the peak and from there it was all downhill in all subsequent years

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