To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Lord of the Rings

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I don't really know how old you are, but wasn't it dangerous to espouse such views for quite a time in Chile?

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I'm not Chilean, I'm a :marseybrasileiro: (my flag was because of my Pinochet effortpost series that I'm totally going to finish any day now), but much like Chile my country democratized in the 1980s and my aunt became politically active in the 90s.

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Oh shit. My whole life is turned upside down.

I remember you speaking of Sao Paolo (I probably mistyped that), but I thought you just emigrated at some point

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Between São Paulo and Santiago I would pick Santiago and is an easy choice.

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From what little I know about South America (nothing), I think Chile is the most well-off country, behind Argentina, so I can't say I'm surprised.

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Is not about being well off. The State of São Paulo itself is more developed than Chile and Argentina and relatively close to the US in terms of infrastructure (Brazil is a highly unequal country, the Southern states, my region, have similar standards to Eastern Europe, the rest of Brazil is much poorer with Northern towns at the Amazon having African tier indexes). The problem is that the city of São Paulo is not a pleasant place to live, is a 22 million inhabitants megalopolis with nightmarish traffic, huge urban sprawl, shitty public transportation. Santiago is much more well organized, it's subway is great and not as car centric, is also 1/3 of the size.

Also, Argentina outside the capital cities is quite rough. Buenos Aires, Rosario, Córdoba are all very nice but there's no decent countryside. I remember reading that their northern provinces HDI is higher than that of South Brazil, yet the times I've been there the small towns looked much poorer and underdeveloped infrastructure wise compared with towns in let's say, Santa Catarina.

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That's a very interesting point. I always used to mock people who would just point at GDP or HDI as a metric for gauging quality of life, despite it forgoing many factors like crime, accessibility, subsidies to services, PPP and other, and yet here I did it myself. As I said I don't rlly know anything about politics or socioeconomics of South America, but I do wish to visit it at some point, maybe I'll get a better perspective then.

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I suspect that the high HDI of those argie provinces is because of low Gini, public healthcare access and a rather well educated population (there are public universities on every province and they're free and without tuition). South Brazilian states like Paraná have a higher inequality but also a higher income and GDP per capita.

Countries like Brazil are not really "poor" but rather very unequal. On a city like São Paulo you'll find entire neighborhoods that look on pair with the fanciest parts of the United States and a few kilometers away there's a slum, and of course there's also a substantial middle class that arose in the past decades. I think that's the main shocker for Europeans and North Americans who visit this continent, so usually their media always portrays the poorest parts.

but I do wish to visit it at some point, maybe I'll get a better perspective then.

Go to Argentina first, is a great place for tourism.

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Chile should go East and get South America's other coastline too

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