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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Lord of the Rings
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That's really interesting. I'm not a very social person hence my sample size is small, but I've never met a person who did a complete 180 on their views like it seems you did. I also live in a fairly small country, but the closest I came to was the one girl who I talked a lot to in highschool who was the grand-daughter of the owner of one of the very few big businesses we have here becoming a full-on commie during her undergraduate studies abroad in Britain, in a very prestigious university no less. It's hard to understand but the cultural perception of communism and Russian imperialism is very different here as well, us being a former constituent of USSR, so her being an ethnic majority who adapted that view surprised me a lot.
I probably said more than I should have, I just find it very interesting when these things happen. As much of a hypocrite as I am in my actions, I don't think I've ever changed my view on things ideologically. Though I don't know how much of a virtue that really is.
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I did in real life, my aunt was a communist during college, she participated in anti-government protests, even years after she graduated I remember seeing Marx's Capital and the Che Guevara diaries on her bookshelf. 20 years+ of working as a doctor in public healthcare convinced her that it would be better if it all got privatized lol. Now she's even sympathetic to rightoid politicians.
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I don't really know how old you are, but wasn't it dangerous to espouse such views for quite a time in Chile?
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I'm not Chilean, I'm a
(my flag was because of my Pinochet effortpost series that I'm totally going to finish any day now), but much like Chile my country democratized in the 1980s and my aunt became politically active in the 90s.
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Oh shit. My whole life is turned upside down.
I remember you speaking of Sao Paolo (I probably mistyped that), but I thought you just emigrated at some point
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Between São Paulo and Santiago I would pick Santiago and is an easy choice.
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From what little I know about South America (nothing), I think Chile is the most well-off country, behind Argentina, so I can't say I'm surprised.
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Is not about being well off. The State of São Paulo itself is more developed than Chile and Argentina and relatively close to the US in terms of infrastructure (Brazil is a highly unequal country, the Southern states, my region, have similar standards to Eastern Europe, the rest of Brazil is much poorer with Northern towns at the Amazon having African tier indexes). The problem is that the city of São Paulo is not a pleasant place to live, is a 22 million inhabitants megalopolis with nightmarish traffic, huge urban sprawl, shitty public transportation. Santiago is much more well organized, it's subway is great and not as car centric, is also 1/3 of the size.
Also, Argentina outside the capital cities is quite rough. Buenos Aires, Rosario, Córdoba are all very nice but there's no decent countryside. I remember reading that their northern provinces HDI is higher than that of South Brazil, yet the times I've been there the small towns looked much poorer and underdeveloped infrastructure wise compared with towns in let's say, Santa Catarina.
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That's a very interesting point. I always used to mock people who would just point at GDP or HDI as a metric for gauging quality of life, despite it forgoing many factors like crime, accessibility, subsidies to services, PPP and other, and yet here I did it myself. As I said I don't rlly know anything about politics or socioeconomics of South America, but I do wish to visit it at some point, maybe I'll get a better perspective then.
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Chile should go East and get South America's other coastline too
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Can you DM me where you live? I love having internet friends from all over the world. It's really cool to get so many different perspectives.
I've kind of done a 360 in a way, I'm back to my libertarian ethics that I held earlier in HS I'd say. Possibly more centrist, but certainly pro-capitalism.
Honestly hanging out with actual commies is enough to deradicalize. I'm pretty active in my church now (even though I was a pretty hardened atheist at 13) and it's night and day what you can do with a couple normal Jesus followers vs. a crew of burn out college students.
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He is Lithuanian.
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Wasn't he a Latvian? Like Mikhail Tal
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I'm Mongolian
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I'm from Latvia, I never really hid that so I have no problem typing it out here. I also am college-educated, I did my degree in England, so I sort-of understand the people you speak of. But at the same time I think it's a much bigger virtue to come to these conclusions regarding politics, philosophy, God and whatever else by yourself, independently, rather than just following whatever you were taught or raised as.
I believe our Archbishop was an atheist for some time in his life, and I really admire him turning around after he read catholic philosophy. It's hard to win, but it is even harder to lose with dignity and accept defeat by admitting you were wrong, which is probably a very dramaphobic statement. I don't think I've mastered that part yet.
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Oh wow, I do not know much about Latvia. Are you guys unsettled by the Ukrainian war?
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I too travelled from rightoid lolbert as a teen, to soy lib, back to conservative over time (though I'm mostly apolitical these days)
Philosophytube's r-sluration helped me deprogram me from the left, for which I'm thankful
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A significant number of people do, because of second opinion bias. They never become more moderate, they just switch to an equally extreme other side of the horseshoe. They aren't smart enough to question whether the issues in their ideology were due to the wingcuckery or the extremism so they get it wrong.
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Haven't met them irl, but "I fell down the alt right rabbit hole" posts were ten a penny on subs like chapotraphouse.
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Honestly lain's story is common to zoomers. They get all lefty in high school and college because it synergizes with adolescent edginess and there's a wide variety of channels and influencers who know how to appeal to them.
But only trust fund kids really keep that mentality past, I dunno, 28 or so. If they end up with a wagie job with too many shit coworkers and hobo encounters.
If they actually see a union in action.
If they join the military or otherwise travel outside of a tourist resort and see how poor the rest of the world is.
If they go into trades.
Or if they just start making decent money in general.
Their lefty views usually don't survive. It's all surface level anyway
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