ordered to pay $2.25 billion 
after jury links Roundup 
to cancer 
by the way this litigation has been ongoing and the chemical in contention has been on the shelf being sold to consumers the whole time
Do the regulators just not care?
mmt of when Bayer got fined millions for knowingly giving people HIV
also as a company they have quite the problematic herstory
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It's a cliche, but a jury is made up of twelve 'people' too stupid to even manage to get out of jury duty.
There is approximately 0% this survives a high court challenge, unless the company's goes full r-slur, Dow Corning-style, and settles.
The data just isnt there.
Which means there should be a fat herd of lolcows just waiting to be milked for drama when this goes before America's Top Jannies.
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except its been appealed several times already and they keep losing those appeals on the glyphosate issue
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-14/bayer-loses-second-roundup-appeal-a-blow-to-containing-suits
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/8/10/bayer-loses-appeal-as-jury-rules-its-weed-killer-causes-cancer
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/bayer-loses-again-as-high-court-allows-87-million-roundup-award
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because this particular type of lawsuit doesn't require facts, it's predicated based on how juries "feel" and has no basis in reality other than to milk the justice system for cash
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Ding ding ding.
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I'll concede i stopped following this issue a few years back, but the data was weak then and i doubt much has changed since.
I dont have a dog in this fight, so if Bayer falls, i'm as keen to violate the carcass as anyone.
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juries are still as stupid as they were a few years ago
theres no good data that suggests glyphosate causes cancer in humans
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lol
IDK how you can say that unless you're an Monsanto shill or accidentally deep throated the whole boot. The evidence for glyphosate being carcinogenic is overwhelming. From animal studies, cell line studies with accelerated tumor growth, correlative studies looking at oxidative stress, longitudinal studies following farmers. All the evidence is there without contradiction.
Don't be a fricking corpo shill. Their propaganda is lying to you.
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Everythings a god darn poison in the right amounts, r-slur. Injecting a significant amount of pure water into your veins is lethal.
" " " oxidative stress" " " oh no! Good point because OXYGEN is literally the most toxic molecule on the planet earth, harmful to the majority of it's lifeforms by raw phylogeny. We are extremely clever as organisms which exploit it for energy by carrying it around in an iron box called "hemoglobin"
glyphosate is demonstrably safe under normal/routine use
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!chuds this nurse thinks they're a scientist
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I got a PhD in rocket surgery from the school of hard peepees
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I like the separate pings game
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Poop on him if you are really about it!!!!
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Darn that bussy can squirt
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Oxidative stress refers to the imbalance of unpaired valence electrons. Oxidative as in "Redox", not literally dioxygen. You fricking zero-education troglodyte.
Indeed it is safer for the rest of us for you to ingest.
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!nonchuds this fake scientist thinks they can argue with a nurse and their heroic expertise
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It's more like "Redox, as in reduction/oxidation reactions"
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leo the lion goes
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Monsanto is heckin holesome 100 dindu
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This but.
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I'm gonna argue for Fluorine or peroxides or one of the negative pH acids
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Reminds me of the flouride tards citing chinese papers in which people were burning clay in their huts as evidence fluoride was toxic.
They were being exposed to like 5000x the amount in drinking water.
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!nooticers should I trust the science on this one? I've been using glyphosates to keep my bussy shiny and supple but after this comment I may change to a different conditioner
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Who fricking cares if it's safe?
If it works, use it.
see also: deet.
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!chuds Will spraying deet on my bussy keep the bugchasers away? I assume you are all experts on this
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You'll probably get cancer if you straight up drink that shit.
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Yeh but what about suppository usage?
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Let's find out, bb.
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Americans are just born corporate shills. They could come home to the Pfizer CEO fricking their wife in the butt and they would applaud.
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Ur right bb
Im going to subscribe to hear more of your opinions
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He says while deep throating the corporate gock
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that's a lot of evidence you got there
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Why would I care about evidence?
Facts before feelings chud
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The data hasn't changed at all, but courts can do whatever they want.
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To be clear these cases are completely r-slurred.
You can show anything causes cancer.
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Agreed, Bayer and Monsonto are r-slurred
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Court decisions don't have to align with real scientific testing.
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This is even worse - a Philly jury. Judicial heck hole, the verdicts are astronomical DAS RITE REPARASHUNS N SHIIIIEETT
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The easiest way to tell if someone is an eternal redditor is if they instinctually defend Monsanto Bayer
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Monsanto has been the boogyman for hippies and pinkos since the 1960s. Before it went to all-black nationalist programming there were decades where NPR was constantly pushing stories about Monsanto and they mostly turned out to be bullshit. But it's one of the few big bad corporations that midwits like you recognize the name of so it would keep getting dredged up.
Meanwhile there was no negative coverage of all the big pharma companies that paid for NPR.
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!grillers is this guy wingcucking at me?
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Treating Monsanto like it has a personality and isn't just a huge system of boring greedy buttholes owned by boring greedy butthole shareholders is peak female brain.
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Rent free
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You live in Portland so I'm not surprised you look like that
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Nah, I'd say he is the grillmaster in this situation
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I'm not defending Monsanto Bayer's baby-raping, their assassination of four U.S. presidents and replacing them with loyal clones, or the fact that they faked the moon landing.
I'm just saying the data in this particular case doesnt hold up.
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Some yellow name below you disagrees. Do some research sometime chud
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I doubt they'll get $2.25 billion American dollars out of a bear.
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Oh wow who knew this chemical designed to kill living things could be hazardous to human life
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Just like how antibiotics are designed to kill living things so you should avoid them.
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this but literally actually unironically
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Found the bacterium.
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you shouldn't drink a big gulp of penicillin
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While I don't disagree with antibiotics being very useful we absolutely should have been using them as little as possible and are gonna pay for corporate greed and general recklessness.
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I can't wait for a bacterial super plague so the government can quintuple the money supply and replace the dollar with Door dash coupons
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We shouldn't have been using them to protect the weak, just strengthen the swole
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found the incel
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Humans and plants aren't the same.
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Have you met an abbo or an irishman
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I use Roundup in my business. Not all the time. It tastes good too.
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That Bayer HIV story was one of the most insane things I ever read. I was absolutely disgusted by Bayer and every agency that knowingly let that shit happen
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I believe it. The regulators suck https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/09/527575055/one-third-of-new-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval
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This kind of r-slur logic is why juries have no place in making decisions about science.
The hemophilia stuff was done by French companies protected by the French government.
Roundup is from Monsanto, an American company.
The Nazi stuff was done by actual Bayer in Germany.
The fact that these three organizations generations later are all part of Bayer doesn't mean Bayer is especially evil, it means there's been a lot of consolidation in the chemical/pharmaceutical industry.
Big evil German corporations do evil stuff all the time (diesel emissions scandal for one) but that doesn't mean every accusation is true. Do you really trust lawyers more than them?
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But this was based?
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But VW did some pro gay and hippie stuff and the beetle is cute so theyre exempt.
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!tops this post right here has convinced me he has some 1st class peepee sucking lips
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Thx fam. I've always felt like a second rate peepeesucker.
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Why didnt Bayer opt for a bench-trial then?
!slots100
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t. corporate cuck
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t. lawyer cuck
(It's totally different because it's a partnership!)
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Buying Monsanto was the biggest mistake in the history of M&A.
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Yeah at the very least they should have done a name change first like Philip Morris did and sell off a few units just to muddy the waters. The name Monsanto is blood in the water for lawyers in districts with lots of leftoids boomers.
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I don't see what the big deal is. People need seed and for some reason prefer corporations to me spraying them myself.
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I was reading on hn about how monsanto sold the brand off to some r-slurred euros who didn't realize how common law works. Hint: jury of your peers does not mean intellectual peers.
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There's been dozens of published papers in peer reviewed journalthat Roundup literally contains arsenic, lead and other heavy metals, and ALSO how that's linked to all sorts of health issues in people who use it.
How the frick it's STILL on the shelves is literally beyond me.
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What levels? A lot of things have detectable levels of something harmful to human health but detection levels are usually far below harmful amounts.
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At levels orders of magnitude higher than WHO guidelines. See figure 5. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5756058
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Oh man, I love licking roundup, but thank god the WHO told me not to.
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Did you start watching Dr. Oz when he got his own show or were you already really into Oprah?
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I dont know who either of those people are boomer
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The regulators unironically do not care, because the entire legislative branch is captured by the chemical industry. T. Rogers' doctoral thesis covers this in an accessible amount of detail.
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Oh wow, all of them are paid by the many producers of every chemical?
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approximately
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Who is t Rogers bb?
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He is a kook and a nobody and safe to disregard. He says dangerous things you should not consider at all. If he came to rdrama.net comrade snappy would sense him and apply a permanent chud award to his account immediately, is how bad he is.
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How big is his peepee though
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T. Rogers, how about you?
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ESLs trying to tell jokes is pretty cringe
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WELL THEN YOU BETTER
GO CATCH 
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didn't this whole glyphosate thing happen like 10-15 years ago? they still sellin it? they still be litigating???
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It's been one of the most commonly used chemicals around the world since 1974 with at least hundreds of millions people exposed and yes, we're somehow still litigating over whether maybe it's harmful and we just never noticed.
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Tbf the same thing happened with talc.
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Hemophiliacs were gonna die, AIDS or not. Bayer dindu nuffin
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I hate juries
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Brother of a good friend of mine was working for Bayer at the time they bought Monsanto. Initially they were applauded a ton for the purchase. He no longer works at Bayer now
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Taleb wins again!
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