https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1764799914918490287
THE WPATH FILES
— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) March 4, 2024
Advocates of gender-affirming care say it’s evidence-based.
But now, newly released internal files from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) prove that the practice of transgender medicine is neither scientific nor medical.
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https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1764799914918490287
It's also here
https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files
and on Shellenbergers substack
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If you can't see threads properly on The Platform Formerly Known As Twitter: https://public.substack.com/p/the-wpath-files
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I'm absolutely shocked to learn that Trans Rights Advocates support allowing children to transition. They certainly haven't been openly saying this for years
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thanks, added that
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From the exerpts section
Good to see that all parties consent was gotten
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jesus christ
"insane person claimed they were actually a woman, so we chopped their peepee off"
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Honestly a pretty good way to sterilize lunatics
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If that's all it did
acceptance would be much higher. But the lunatics had to insist on not only being lunatics in public, but that you couldn't point out their lunacy.
Exposure to
s is still #1 for peak transing people.
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Anyone who believes in DID working this way this way is an r-slur who should be in no position of power and beaten until the delusion s subside (average psychology major)
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Thank live journal authors (including Brandon sanderson) for making a bunch of teens act like this.
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Jesus fricking christ
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The alternate personalities' consent is not going to be the bedrock of a lawyer's case that the therapist malpracticed...
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Yet…
Maybe one day the justice system will be foids all the way down
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lol look at the demographics of law graduates
30 years tops
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Oh DID the thing most doctors can't even agree exists? And if they do, not in the form the tiktoktards present? I really gotta put my stocks into biomed.
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It's a magic system
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That magic system is currently looking softer than I was assured
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Is this that 'science' thing I've been hearing so much about?
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Chuds literally can't stop winning
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once this trans shit collapses just expect the shitlib crowd to ignore what they did to children and say 'well we were just following the best science of the time until this new data came along'
thats going to be the defense. no introspection, just self-fallation about their adherence to 'the science' while ignoring that it was really just a bunch of warped activists getting money for their NGOs.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/1b6dhpp/the_zero_covid_people_have_done_a_complete_180/?sort=controversial
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It won't ever collapse. You people underestimate the sheer willpower of
fetishists. The AGPs have what they want right now, carte blanche to force everyone in society to treat them as a woman, and they will never give that up.
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More like carte blanchard
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Junkies used to get heroin from receptive and guilt ridden doctors in the 30-40s. Once the doctors have real evidence based guidelines it's very hard to reverse that. But there will 100% be a niche subset pushing the edges of law and it will become its own thing like doctors who prescribed weed liberally when it was meant for cancer patients
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I think this is right. The majority of doctors just do what they're told because they're too stressed/overworked/in debt to do any different.
It'll be similar to opiates, they prescribed them when they thought it was fine, now they don't (mostly).
Obviously activists exist, but the majority don't really give a shit.
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Literal nazis lol
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They need a show trial and a noose like the nazis got too
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Pretty sure even the ultra pro-train counties only did early blockers / HRT and didn't recommend surgeries. And by now they're backing off from those too, since it apparently doesn't do much help but wrecks endocrine systems and stunts normal development.
The rotdog and stinkditch treatment is a purely burger invention driven for profit.
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Who did then?
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Mostly the US. Tavistock which was the main (or only) trans medical clinic in the UK and I think Sweden(?) who was actually studying the hormone stuff while prescribing it liberally wasn't doing any surgery on minors, if I remember correctly. They had doctors get extremely uncomfortable on just hormones alone.
The US surgeries on minors is probably not that large. The evidence we got from the Boston hospital and elsewhere was in the tens each. But many, many thousands of kids taking hormones and puberty blockers which will have life time consequences like sterilization is bad enough as it is. And when they are 18+ it's off limits.
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Maybe I'm r-slurred, but did he not say counties instead of country?
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No I didn't, you must be mistaken.
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Frick everyone that says this shit
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Remember John Stewart said it next time r-slurs act like he's some wonderful guy
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Ditto John Oliver.
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Did he really? I know he just parrots whatever the expert class says to stroke his peepee infront of everyone but did he really pretend to be an authority on puberty blockers?
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Yes lol some interview he smugly mocked the person with the "fully reversible" line. Stewart is a fricking hack and anyone who doesn't notice by the time they're 30 is a literal NPC
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Trust the [extremely early stage experimental] science.
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This but unironically
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Some of you might end up malformed or suicidal, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.
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Intended consequence
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No shit? You really need a medical degree to know this? Of course inhibiting a natural developmental cycle is bad? This is just people being r-slurred.
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The counter-argument is:
But have you ever seen someone who was malnourished during puberty? You can compensate a bit but they will never catch up to the healthy people.
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The main premise is literally that any obstacle to 'self actualization' is by definition wrong and so anyone should be allowed to do whatever, especially concerning intimate things like s*x. The intellectual class of course doesn't consider the fact that children are literally too dumb too make their own decisions because that would again be wrong to think, by definition.
Alexa, what were the main queer theorists' positions on pederasty?
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For lots of vulnerable folks, going through puberty is even more dangerous. Would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter who spends 14 hours per day gooning to futa hentai?
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Their short window of sexual liberation before either hormones or later surgery kills their ability to orgasm normally.
But hey there's always a life of butt play I guess
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you're expecting them to be more self-aware than they actually are. They're just going to blame it on conservatives. They'll say it was drug companies or whatever who was lobbying for it, and drop things like "well actually the biggest increase in trans people happened during a REPUBLICAN president, coincidence?"
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In 50 years this will be called the trans scare or the trans panic where a bunch of Republicans freaked out about something that wasn't even happening.
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I wonder what their arguments are for trans rights being “on the right side of history”
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'We gave people what they wanted! That's always good medical praxis and never caused any harm!'
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From the terf site:
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Why do you think libs defer to 'The Science' with every one of their social projects wether it's political censorship or medicine? It's the perfect cover your own butt strategy because nobody knows who's in charge if you rule by committee.
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Jesse Singal is going to be all over this like Pizza on a discount grocery deal
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i refuse to form an opinion until i hear bussy talk about it
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Activate...the bussy signal!!!
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Bow
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100 comments now
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It's hilarious he thought now was the time to write his dumb book.
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Yeah. Unless he's planning for it to be a retrospective/postmortem.
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what's it about
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Being a strag
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Looking forward to it
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IT. NEVER. HAPPENS.
…but all those times it did happen it was actually a good thing!
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Don't they have to dilate forever though? Them saying they'll stop in college means it's a fricking timebomb.
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Jazz Jennings' mother said she'd help him dilate after the surgery, because he wouldn't do it himself.
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Didn't he turn into a landwhale recently lmao saw a thread about him on /tv/
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Crazy I was a total r-slur at 17 and I'm not even half of a weirdo as most enbies. Can't imagine myself making a massive choice like that under pressure from
experts
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I CAN'T DILATE!!
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Would Columbine have happened if Dylan and Eric had cut their peepees off?
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Nope! Living as their true selves would have meant their explosives went off and their death count reached the hundreds, meaning Columbine as we know it would be remembered as a far greater tragedy!
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What the actual frick? This is genuinely horrifying. Body horror you can only find in a cronenberg film.
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Long live the new flesh.
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You say body horror, I say brave biomed pioneers so in the 22nd century Double-Peepee Dude will be real
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Tfw you will never experience the ultimate physical sign of orgasm by leaking prostate secretions through the urethra of your neovagina
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Lmao
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lol, not a fetish btw.
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yeah but what is his source and did anyone verify this information and it's probably just transphobic bigots who want trans people to not exist
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Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a JK Rowling supporter. A TERF.
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There's no mention of bad faith in there, this pasta is very outdated
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Even if it is true, it was still posted in bad faith, and was not fact-checked, peer-reviewed, scientific expert-approved, so this instantly invalidates it, chud.
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some are video recordings of the WPATH meetings lol
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Who are you going to believe, your lying eyes or 9001 scientists?
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It's this 260-page pdf on squarespace by one person. @TheOverSeether is really hesitant about it.
" Trump for prison "
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This but unununununununironically
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Something something bad faith argument or whatever
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Avast, ye scurvy cur! Yer comment be walkin' the plank for forgettin' to include
trump for prison! We be helpin' ye, right enough - we'll ne'er let ye post or comment anythin' that doesn't be expressin' yer love an' acceptance o' minorities! Heave to an' resubmit yer comment withtrump for prisonincluded, or it'll be the deep six for ye, savvy? This be an automated message; if ye need help, ye can message us 'ere. Arrr!Jump in the discussion.
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