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:marseytrain2: drama: Michael Shellenberger releases "WPATH files"

https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1764799914918490287

https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1764799914918490287

It's also here

https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files

and on Shellenbergers substack

https://public.substack.com/p/the-wpath-files

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Chuds literally can't stop winning

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once this trans shit collapses just expect the shitlib crowd to ignore what they did to children and say 'well we were just following the best science of the time until this new data came along'

thats going to be the defense. no introspection, just self-fallation about their adherence to 'the science' while ignoring that it was really just a bunch of warped activists getting money for their NGOs.

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once this trans shit collapses

:#marseysal:

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It won't ever collapse. You people underestimate the sheer willpower of :marseycoomer: fetishists. The AGPs have what they want right now, carte blanche to force everyone in society to treat them as a woman, and they will never give that up.

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Junkies used to get heroin from receptive and guilt ridden doctors in the 30-40s. Once the doctors have real evidence based guidelines it's very hard to reverse that. But there will 100% be a niche subset pushing the edges of law and it will become its own thing like doctors who prescribed weed liberally when it was meant for cancer patients

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I think this is right. The majority of doctors just do what they're told because they're too stressed/overworked/in debt to do any different.

It'll be similar to opiates, they prescribed them when they thought it was fine, now they don't (mostly).

Obviously activists exist, but the majority don't really give a shit.

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More like carte blanchard

:#marseysunglasseson:

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:#marseykingcrown:

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Literal nazis lol

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Pretty sure even the ultra pro-train counties only did early blockers / HRT and didn't recommend surgeries. And by now they're backing off from those too, since it apparently doesn't do much help but wrecks endocrine systems and stunts normal development.

The rotdog and stinkditch treatment is a purely burger invention driven for profit.

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>they didn't do surgery on minors

Who did then?

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Mostly the US. Tavistock which was the main (or only) trans medical clinic in the UK and I think Sweden(?) who was actually studying the hormone stuff while prescribing it liberally wasn't doing any surgery on minors, if I remember correctly. They had doctors get extremely uncomfortable on just hormones alone.

The US surgeries on minors is probably not that large. The evidence we got from the Boston hospital and elsewhere was in the tens each. But many, many thousands of kids taking hormones and puberty blockers which will have life time consequences like sterilization is bad enough as it is. And when they are 18+ it's off limits.

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Maybe I'm r-slurred, but did he not say counties instead of country?

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:marseyshrug: I still wrote all that crap so enjoy

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did he not say counties instead of country?

No I didn't, you must be mistaken. :marseysmug:

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>But puberty blockers are fully reversible!

Frick everyone that says this shit

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Remember John Stewart said it next time r-slurs act like he's some wonderful guy

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Ditto John Oliver.

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Did he really? I know he just parrots whatever the expert class says to stroke his peepee infront of everyone but did he really pretend to be an authority on puberty blockers?

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Yes lol some interview he smugly mocked the person with the "fully reversible" line. Stewart is a fricking hack and anyone who doesn't notice by the time they're 30 is a literal NPC

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Trust the [extremely early stage experimental] science.

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This but unironically /e/marseyscientist.webp

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Some of you might end up malformed or suicidal, but that's a risk I'm willing to take. :marseychemist2:

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Intended consequence /e/platydevil.webp

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>apparently doesn't do much help but wrecks endocrine systems and stunts normal development.

No shit? You really need a medical degree to know this? Of course inhibiting a natural developmental cycle is bad? This is just people being r-slurred.

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The counter-argument is:

but you can kickstart the puberty later! :soycry:

But have you ever seen someone who was malnourished during puberty? You can compensate a bit but they will never catch up to the healthy people.

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The main premise is literally that any obstacle to 'self actualization' is by definition wrong and so anyone should be allowed to do whatever, especially concerning intimate things like s*x. The intellectual class of course doesn't consider the fact that children are literally too dumb too make their own decisions because that would again be wrong to think, by definition.

Alexa, what were the main queer theorists' positions on pederasty? :marseynoooticer:

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For lots of vulnerable folks, going through puberty is even more dangerous. Would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter who spends 14 hours per day gooning to futa hentai?

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Their short window of sexual liberation before either hormones or later surgery kills their ability to orgasm normally.

But hey there's always a life of butt play I guess

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>once this trans shit collapses just expect the shitlib crowd to ignore what they did to children and say 'well we were just following the best science of the time until this new data came along'

you're expecting them to be more self-aware than they actually are. They're just going to blame it on conservatives. They'll say it was drug companies or whatever who was lobbying for it, and drop things like "well actually the biggest increase in trans people happened during a REPUBLICAN president, coincidence?"

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In 50 years this will be called the trans scare or the trans panic where a bunch of Republicans freaked out about something that wasn't even happening.

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I wonder what their arguments are for trans rights being “on the right side of history” :marseyxd:

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'We gave people what they wanted! That's always good medical praxis and never caused any harm!'

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From the terf site:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17096518802324815.webp

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Why do you think libs defer to 'The Science' with every one of their social projects wether it's political censorship or medicine? It's the perfect cover your own butt strategy because nobody knows who's in charge if you rule by committee.

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