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WORLD WAR 3 
WORLD WAR 3 WORLD WAR 3 WORLD WAR 3 WORLD WAR 3 YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST DRAMAFOLKS!!!
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I wish this site existed since 1900. Imagine how picante our takes would be on Japan kicking Russia's butt twice, the Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, Germany marching through Belgium, Battle of the Frontiers, Battle of the Marne, Battle of Jutland, Communist Russia, the Lusitania, all the shitty battles up to the Kaiserschlacht and the French counterattack, the Treaty of Versailles.
We would have !Central and !Allied pings. Memes about chlorine gas and tanks and Zeppelins and fights about who started it all (Serbia and Russia and France started WW1).
!historychads born too late to laugh at the most dramatic event in human history, born too early to laugh as the nukes are inbound
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I found this book in the library with an introduction by a Civil War vet, a real war hero, (I can't find his name because google cockblocks you from actually searching for anything except local businesses) from about 1907. It's really explicit in saying that we're happy that the Japanese won because they won because they're asian, and Americans want asians to beat eurotrash imperialism. Also has some very accurate criticisms of Korea under the Joseon dynasty. The caste system, oppression of women, rampant forced prostitution, etc. It's fascinating to see how people were, to put it bluntly, way smarter and well informed back then. At least Americans.
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And then the Japs did the whole "Greater East Asia Coprosperity Sphere" meme and forced Koreans into prostitution.
I think the US was stoked on the Japs because (1) Commodore Perry, and (2) our entire Bill of Rights was an anti-European diss track.
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One of the biggest legit conspiracies in human history is convincing Americans that they always loved Britain. Americans were very much anti-Britain and anti-colonialist until shortly after WW2. Why? Because we were among the worst victims. A huge part of our population was murdered by their war crimes in our war for independence. But this was just wiped out of all the history books very suddenly. You ever notice that nobody ever talks about the Revolutionary War anymore? This is the foundation of our whole fricking country but we never mention it?
!schizomaxxxers
(I'm just joking about the schizo part. It's been declassified that the British were making a massive effort to secretly manipulate Hollywood, the press, etc. inside the US to support them starting in WW2. And we have no idea when (or if) it really ended.)
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(((Perfidious Albion)))
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It didn't end. Reminder to all !schizos that Breadtubers are literally funded by British glowies.
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I've heard that even historians can't explain exactly why the American public came around to Britain at some point in the 19th century. Shared culture probably had a lot to do with it especially if we imagine a world where a more foreign power like Germany or Russia could have replaced them on the world stage.
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There were a bunch of crises with Germany around the 1890s where they were just being total psychos, trying to take over places like remote Pacific islands that had no value unless you were at war with America. And also they were making moves in the Caribbean, which again were obviously about invading America. The main reason we entered our relationship with the Philippines is that the Spanish told us "we lost it to the Filipinos, and we're going to sell it to either you or the Germans" and that's why McKinley pressed the button on that one. Germany was already regarded in America and much of the world as the primary threat to world peace before 1900.
And Britain was backing us up with their navy in a lot of these encounters.
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Once FDR showed how big his polio ridden peepee was compared to Chruchill's whiskey peepee, they agreed WW2 would be run from Washington. It reversed the relationship and put UK in a subordinate position.
Churchill kept part of his focus on sending troops to India and other colonies to keep down revolts while it was at war.
The US is just gracious in its victory. Plus the Brits are useful. Fantastic intelligence program and special operations ninjas.
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Idk where you are from, we literally spent years learning about the revolution and war of 1812 and how generally unreasonable Britain was about the whole thing. That was just in normal public education
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War crimes didn't exist until post WW2. There was absolutely no shortage of war crimes committed on both sides of any conflict before then and especially 250 something years ago.
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Neighbor, are you justifying the holocaust?
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From a strictly legal perspective we kind of just made up the law posthoc and applied it to the Germans retroactively. There's a reason we don't allow this in most first world countries, including the US whose Constitution contains what's called the Ex Post Facto Clause. It's literally unconstitutional and definitely ethically questionable.
Maybe if the UN was created after World War 1 instead Hitler would have known that the Holocaust would be a violation of international law and human rights and not did it.
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I think there was something in international law about not murdering millions of noncombatant civilians before that. There must have been some technicality you could catch them on.
IIRC there was a proposal to keep the gas chambers going and put the Nazis in them but it was rejected as being not a good look. But I think anyone who appreciates a good story would love the irony in that.
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idk, I thought Nuremburg was effectively the birth of recognised international law
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This is bullshit.
The first Geneva Convention dates to 1864.
There was also the 1928 Kellogg–Briand Pact, which banned war. Most Nuremburg defendants hanged not just for crimes against humanity, but crimes against the peace, i.e. planning and starting a war. This is why Hitler's successor Doentiz only got 10 years, because he was too low ranking before the war to have planned the war
Even before then, there were unspoken rules about conduct in war, including treatment of civilians and causus belli.
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You mean Hitler would have done the holocaust even if the ICJ was around to say it was bad?
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I did a whole series
of posts about drama 
in history 
back in the day when I still made an effort. Here are the shitty 
images I made for them.
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Nice I think those were what inspired me to make this one
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!marseyartists
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!marseyfans amazing work right here
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It would be interesting o see how people would call Ferdinand's assassination a nothingburger. Not saying this time it isn't one but even right up to nuclear holocaust you'd have people saying nothing ever happens.
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Imagine all the "watch this go nowhere in 2 weeks."
And then we place vote bets and debate if Russia mobilizing in response counted as something happening.
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It's wojaks all the way down.
Neighbor just wanted a fkn sandwich.
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Tag urself
I'm "r-slurred Austrian horse"
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TRVKE.
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Austria: Serbia just assassinated our heir Head of State. This is an act of war!
Russia: Yes we know, we think that is based and keyed, and we will defend them if you attack them!
Germany: Don't worry, we have your back in this. After all, the Serbia-Russia-France alliance only covers wars of defense, but not if one of them acts aggressively.
France and Russia: oh we totes changed that years ago. Now we support each other in the offense
Germany: Austria we are surrounded. Let's defend ourselves. Russia is slow to mobilize so let's knock out France first real quick.
!historychads
I love starting this debate so much.
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I dunno, our culture of detached irony is a product of Pax America/the End of History
, wherein nothing ever happens and nothing really matters. 1900 rdrama would be nothing but seriousposts.
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I'm talking anachronistically putting this site back then. Of course it would be twice-daily printed newspapers, entire opinion paragraphs by 1000 authors, weighing 20 pounds.
I have no doubt it would be the highest circulating paper nationwide because it wouldn't have a slant and it would be so inflammatory.
Woodrow Wilson would probably have us all hunted down and shot for sedition, which would be the best final episode.
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Happenings like that just don't happen these days, bros
Also imagine all the ping groups I could own given all that time
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