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EFFORTPOST In January 2005, a bitter GenXer posted, 'high school students hate our freedom'. Eighteen months later, a 13 year old freshman got mad without reading, mad enough to make an account. This is his story.

https://www.lightblueextra.com/forum/classic-lbe/best-of-lbe/7932-high-school-students-hate-our-freedom

!oldfags !chiraqis @snallygaster this is a real deep cut. Read while listening to Dumb Hardcore EP for period-appropriate ambience.

Background

In the early-mid 2000s, LightBlueExtra was a Chicago area music BBS with a focus on the punk and hardcore scenes. My parents would never let me go to shows, but my older brother was in the scene and back in the day he used to go to see bands at The Fireside Bowl and post on LBE (he's not in this thread, if you're wondering). It was a fun, laid-back forum with lots of random shitposting and their own custom word filters. One thing that made it different from other internet forums is that almost everyone on it knew each other in real life. The core group of users and jannies ("Elitist fucks") all went to middle school together or something. By the 2000s they all had shitty new grad jobs, and were going to see each others' bands play, sleeping with other people in the scene :marseyfrozenchosenchokespal: and occasionally internet bullshit would spill over into actual IRL drama or vice versa.

I sometimes lurked, but I was too scared to post with the cool 20-somethings. I always dreamed that I would grow up, get my bellybutton pierced, and pretend to be a cool bitch on the internet. But then, by the time I was in my 20s, Facebook, Instagram and Tumblr had killed forum culture. :marseyitsover: Today, LBE is a graveyard, and I was shocked to discover it's still online at all.

Setup

On January 31, 2005, OP threw down the gauntlet.

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The link is broken now, but I found a snippet of the article on another old forum

By BEN FELLER, AP Education Writer WASHINGTON

The way many high school students see it, government censorship of newspapers may not be a bad thing, and flag burning is hardly protected free speech. It turns out the First Amendment is a second-rate issue to many of those nearing their own adult independence, according to a study of high school attitudes released Monday.

The original amendment to the Constitution is the cornerstone of the way of life in the United States, promising citizens the freedoms of religion, speech, press and assembly. Yet, when told of the exact text of the First Amendment, more than one in three high school students said it goes "too far" in the rights it guarantees. Only half of the students said newspapers should be allowed to publish freely without government approval of stories.

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!moidmoment

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:marseyhesright:

If you ever want a concise illustration of how American culture has changed over the last two decades, you could do worse than this: A bunch of 20-somethings were wringing their hands that a single youngun thought unpopular opinions should be censored. :marseypearlclutch: In 2005, 83% of high schoolers believed in :marseyfreezepeach:

One poster waxed philosophical about grass and summer and debating important issues or something, but I just wanted to highlight his banger signature. Someone here should steal that. Somebody ping dinochads!

>"His team decided to mount their search for dinosaur DNA not in amber or the coal measures. They chose to search for it in fresh human semen"-Jones, M. The Molecule Hunt. (New York; Arcade Pub.,2001) p. 35

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Soon enough, in the way of all forums, the grammar nazis arrived, ready to throw down and start shit with Dvorakcels

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(I actually kind of love this guy. I hope he hasn't mellowed at all the last 19 years and we could be a power couple with massive egos picking fights with everyone over its/it's )

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This threat is funnier because unlike on most messageboards, when someone on LBE says "why don't you say that to my face?" there's at least a chance they will at the next show.

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The Grammar King from Sorrow Mountain would be a good band name. :marseyheavymetal:

Anyway, it goes on like that for a while. I'm not going to screenshot the whole thread but !clinklickers it's worth a click because there's some medium-funny posts in the first few pages. By February, it looked like the thread had petered out to a natural ending:

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Punchline

But then, seventeen months later, a new challenger enters the ring: A self-professed 13 year old Australian downie... :marseyretardchad:

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Everything about this kid is peak 2006 :marseytrollolol: and my heart is full of warmth and nostalgia to see it. Remember when people just posted whatever stupid obnoxious shit they wanted, and it wasn't about AI or politics or anything except a teenager acting retarded?

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Same.

The regulars mostly ignore him for a while, but he keeps trying to get a rise out of someone...

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By now, some people are getting into the spirit:

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:marseyxd: :marseycheckem2: #69

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I didn't realize TRUTH was this old, tbqh.

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:marseycoomer2:

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That could have been meeeee!!! I could have been the bratty sister acting like a twat on my brother's forum and embarrassing him in front of his cool friends.

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Everyone kind of thinks it's fake, or a sockpuppet or a @carpathianflorist alt - because really, what the fuck? How does some random Australian child even stumble on an obscure local forum?

And then he's back the next day! And the crazy thing is he might not actually be a fake...

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>.how odd, testosterone really gets the best of u doesnt it...

>stoked

>LEGENDS

...do Burgers say "stoked" and "legend"?

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He also starts DMing people:

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Two days later, he's back again: :marseyattentionseeker:

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A hundred posts in, he finally :marseyreading: the OP and has some tHoUgHtS to contribute:

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>Do u people seriously find it that hard 2 believe that it may actually just be a 13 year old...who else would b so agressive towards the world lmao

Our precocious troll makes another account specially for this single post:

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He goes on for a few more pages, posting a bunch of random links like this blog about 'small meat processors' (lol) and a guide to finding the g-spot https://www.seductionscience.com/seduction/g-spot-376.htm

Some users are finally starting to be more annoyed than amused:

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:marseyyes: The old internet was great. Why do we never get random children trolling on this site?

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Zing.

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'elp, 'elp, im being stereo typed! :cunt:

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:marseyclappingglasses: I feel like you could make this same joke on rdrama today and get DC for it. Is dramatard culture directly descended from genX music boards?

Our little Roo declares victory:

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Hey, someone see if bigwetbutts.com stood the test of time.

But that wasn't the last we'd see of our hero. A little over a week later, surprise! :marseyitsbimothy2:

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@Harmless weighs in with the wisdom of the ages:

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Oh, but has the trolling metaphorically boomeranged on him?

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(I forget how it worked, but "negative rep" was like a downvote or something)

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Cuckaroos can't compete.

:marseysaluteusa: :marseysaluteusa: :marseysaluteusa:

And then, two weeks later, our protagonist fires off one last riposte before riding off into the sunset, never to be seen again:

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If that kid really was 13 in 2006, that would make him a 31 year old man today. :boomermonster:

I hope /u/cemetery_gates2312 sees this, signs up, and his posting style has not changed at all.

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If he's got Down syndrome, I'd be surprised: 31's a ripeold age for a downy

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the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long

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They last longer now.

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The way he types reminds me of my rural wigger friend from back then. Miss her (and the world we lived in) so darn much. :marseyrain:

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God I miss when you had to leave the house to see people and your ability to do things wasn't measured in spoons

Real life was so much better and so was the internet


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Hey can you flag this as an effortpost? I didn't write that much but I wasted a lot of time screenshotting so all the lazy people here can have a nostalgia trip without having to visit a second website.

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I did that before commenting!!!!!!!


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:#marseycalvin:


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And bless you for that. I am very lazy.

:marseyant#iwork:

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Yeah, back then the purpose of the internet was for your female friends to hook you up with girls who went to the same church as them but didn't go to our school. Not this Tinder bullshit where kids find random strangers to have casual s*x with.

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:marseymany#suchcases:

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Everybody wanna act tough til theyre pulling up a birth chart to get some

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Ahh the Gamespot forums.

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:daydream: what a trip down memory lane

!oldstrags come look

I was a member of a local gaming message board around this time and we would all hang out irl, it was so much fun

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Same. I was in my 20s at this time and was partying with people I knew on internets.


Krayon sexually assaulted his sister. https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241526738973.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17118241426254768.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17156480765435808.webp

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Did you ever go to raves set up on usenet? I juuuuust missed that era and am jealous as frick

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My bf in my teens took me to some raves. I went to some gatherings from Bluelight and had a blast, but I was older by then. I met one of my besties in my 20s on the internets. It was when a local newspaper had their own forum on AOL and she was a mod. We hung out for a long while and then she moved away. I lost my old email, so we lost touch and now I don't remember her last name :(


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I went to some gatherings from Bluelight

Ur a real neighbor :marseykneel:

Were they illegal warehouse raves or what?

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Ok grandma and grandpa let's get you back home

:#marseydisabled: :!#marseyclapping:

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I was briefly a janny on some Lakers forum around this time lmao

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>dude cutting the grass effin rules

:#marseyhankhilltyping:

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Oh, stop being so high and mighty, you weenies. When you were in high school, you acted like r-slurs

Mannn I miss old school forums. Nobody would think much of this sentence, but current year internet has a meltdown and wants you banned.


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One guy in HS set up a forum for us and it was one of the few good sites that evaded Bessy, the internet filter. It was something stupid like just having milquetoast tags on the landing page that got you past the filter, so we could play flash games and forum RPGs and call each other cute twinks

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>does anyone have the number for the NAMBLA recruiter?

Jesus christ :marseydarkxd:

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Why do we never get random children trolling on this site?

Cause instagram, youtube and twitch are the great filter. Maybe reddit for the more neurodivergent kids.

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I remember being 13 on the ebaumsworld forums double and triple checking my posts for spelling and grammar errors because I was terrified of being laughed at.


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i was ESL barely and didnt give a shit

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And now the nu-!scandicks speak better English than their mother tongue :marseyaware:

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no?

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I think a lot of people are confused about this. This guy is just r-slurred.

Source: :marseyflagnorway: me

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It's kinda sad really :marseydepressed: frick globalism

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someone see if bigwetbutts.com stood the test of time.

BigWetButts.com domain is no longer in service :marseygreytide: but don't worry, if you are an existing member, login to access :marsey403: Big Wet Butts and all Brazzers videos and photos.

:marse#yitsover:

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:#rip: BWBros

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2024 is awful, our butts are small :marseytiny2: and dry

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In 2005 I was posting on Pojo and a few other :marseyyugi: forums finding people to play against online with simulators or MSN messenger. :marseyboomer: @kaamrev

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>yellow fever neighbor is a weeb

Zero people surprised:marseysleep:

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This seems very long. Should I read this?

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No.

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Yes, it's funny :marseyemojilaugh2: and nostalgic


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God, I miss the scene so much. Everything was fun, nothing was serious, and I once watched a girl write her name in the snow(Jessica but she didnt dot the I and didnt quite finish the a) before lighting up my buddy's hands doused in jack daniels, which he put out the flames in the snow by dotting her I. Then we blew up an old computer monitor with fireworks. All while listening to shitty metal.

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That kid rules. Yes burgers :marseyamericanpearlclutch: say "stoked" and have for as long as I remember but I have never :marseyitsover: really :marseythinkorino2: heard :marseyjacksparrow: someone call someone else a "legend" unless that person :marseychonkerfoid: really :marseythinkorino2: was a legendary :marseyshaymin: figure :marseyfunko: in their field :marseytradwifedaisy: (sports, music, entertainment). Also why is the word "potato" being censored? Are punks afraid :marseyshock: of potatoes?


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As I remember it, "stoked" was a mid-1990s thing. After "radical" but before "phat".

Like there's a joke in Newsradio where Joe Rogan says it because it's the kind of thing Joe Rogan would say in 1995.

!oldstrags

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>phat

There was also stupid cool, or "stupid" anything, when it had a positive connotation.

Also "pimp" as an adjective.

!oldstrags again! :marseyexcited:

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stupid cool, or "stupid" anything

I don't think we had that one here. :marseythinkorino: Like we rarely used "hella" but apparently it was really big in southern California.

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Yeah, I was gonna say that was more of a west coast thing.

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pimpin'

Jewish lives matter

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I still say stoked :boomer: and I probably always will


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That's rad, bro. :marseythumbsup:

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I only know 'stoked' from the intro to Weezer - Undone (the sweater song)

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i got to

>One poster waxed philosophical about grass and summer and debating important issues or something, but I just wanted to highlight his banger signature. Someone here should steal that. Somebody ping dinochads!

before i gave up. can anyone tldr the rest

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It's not interesting at any point dw

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yea i thought so

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:mysides#:

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Good job Jimmy

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i want to archive this forum. are there any subforums that can only be seen with an account?

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I think so, at least there used to be. I think there used to be a subforum where you could buy drugs until it got the mop after someone was accused of being a narc and there was a whole minor shitstorm about it.

I think there was also an inner sanctum like /h/countryclub for the "elitist fricks" powerusers (it might even have been named that), but I was never in it because I was a 16 year old lurker who didn't know anyone and couldn't play guitar.

You might be able to just ask the admin for a dump

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Every forum from that timeframe had an account only gooner subforum.

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Frick you dude. You don't just get to believe what I'd been thinking the whole time now that it's convenient for you. First apologize to me for your original opinions, shithead.

And look: the fact that you just very recently had those problematic opinions does not just mean that you get to be woke within a matter of clicks; you still have a lot of rethinking to do. So shut up. Say you're sorry, SHUT THE FRICK UP, and start listening: the adults are talking, and what we have to say will impact generations to come.

Snapshots:

https://www.lightblueextra.com/forum/classic-lbe/best-of-lbe/7932-high-school-students-hate-our-freedom:

Dumb Hardcore EP:

a snippet of the article on another old forum:

blog about 'small meat processors':

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bigwetbutts.com:

stood the test of time.:

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God I miss the old messageboard internet so much.

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I blame Reddit

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