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surprising no one, "blue zones" are fricking fake.
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The secret to living a long life is to live in a place with generous pensions and bad record keeping
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I was going to go down to the post office the day after but I guess I'll just save my stamps for later
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I think the whole centenarian/supercentenarian data will improve massively in the developed world once we reach the 2040s and 2050s. Almost all American and European Baby Boomers have birth certificates and other documentation like school records, plus many have baby or kid pictures. A supercentenarian from today had to be born 1914 or before, back when documentation was more sketchy and in many cases non-existent like he exemplified by the Okinawa poor records.
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Everyone is too fat and transgender to age that far now
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Who knows. I've heard cutting off your balls makes you live longer
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quadrāgintāūnusgenarian
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I didn't say anything about them living to 100, just that even if most of them die before 100 it will still provide valuable info on longevity because they have more documentation than their elders.
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I'd imagine the data is already great, but life insurance companies don't want to share.
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Another reason for this in Okinawa is draft dodging. Someone lies about their age to get out of the draft in the 1930s and 70 years later they're a centenarian.
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wtf is a blue zone
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It's the name given to regions around the world famous for their "longevity" (lot's of people living over 100 to be more precise) like Okinawa in Japan or some Islands in the Mediterranean.
It turns out most of the supposed centenarians have no birth certificates and evidence about their age comes from second hand documentation from latter life and "trust me bro". For instance, some guy who's supposedly 105 years old could actually be 95, he has no birth certificate and information about his age comes from his government pension which he applied for at 65, but he wasn't really 65, he was 55 and lied to retire earlier, that's a hypothetical example I'm giving to explain how it could work.
Many are already dead but because there are no death certificates some government records will point out they're "alive" and over 100.
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I remember a story about a ricecel family keeping there dead grandpa in the basement to collect his pension and only getting cought because people wanted to congratulate him on being the oldest man alive
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record keeping sucked butt back in the days.
Ruralcels would wait to bring several kids at once to be registered, so you'd have a newborn, a 2yo and 4yo have the same official age
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That's why baptism certificates are better genealogy records than birth certificates pre 1920s.
Though the mormon genealogy site actually has my great-great grandfather's birth certificate from 1889 scanned, his files also include the scan of his marriage certificate from the Cartório de Registro Civil and death certificate from the early 1970s, and the immigration records of his parents (entrance in Brazil, date, name of the ship, profession).
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I don't think they had more than my great grandparents
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just drill a hole into his arm and check how old he is
core sample a bunch of old itals
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Reminds me of this documentary, I forgot if it was on netflix or elsewhere talking about these blue zones and its focus was on their diets being the key there was something about it that smelled bullshit but I didnt know enough on the subject to call it out. Now I know, thanks!
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I remember being a sick kid and there was an oprah episode on TV about some blue zone in central america, about how "cooking lunch is like a mini work out" because they have to chop and grate vegetables
Why do people want to live so long anyway? Life in old age is shit, after 85 it's universally shit.
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There are in good health 85> year olds, you just have to work out a lot to combat sarcopenia.
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The big selling point is that centenarians supposedly age slower, as opposed to merely having more years of being extremely old and feeble. The idea that you can have an extra 20 years of life at the quality of an average 40- or 50-year-old sounds pretty good to most people.
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They age slower until 77-80 and then no matter what you've done up until that point, you're old with all the health problems old people have and are on your butt for 80% of the day.
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This was a problem before computers. I'm going to be emulating PS2 in the old farts' home until I die and they can pry the controller from my cold dead hands.
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I am hoping when we get old we can just upload ourselves into second life and donate our brains to some wet network
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Who wants a rotting old senile brain for their network? Give me some fresh 23 YO's. And some adrenochrome while you're at it.
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blue balls however
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