EFFORTPOST 33 year old bio major turned door to door solar salesman, 50'000 in student loan debt

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoYP4nw4bqM

Michael, 33, Richmond VA

Self-rated: 1/10

Career:

  • Door to door solar salesman

    • Started working for them in February

    • Claims it's one of the best markets in the country for it

    • All commission, no base pay

    • Income so far this year, he brought a spreadsheet timestamp

      • Jan - $2163

      • Feb - $630 (Started Door to Door Solar here)

      • March - $3220

      • April - $3125

      • May - About $9000

    • Believes it will settle between 7'000 and 10'000

    • Payment model -

      • Paid 175 they see the presentation

      • $225 if they buy

      • 8-10 people -

      • Who in the world first answers their door to salesmen and two actually lets them do a presentation timestamp

        • "It happens, all the time" :marseyxd:

        • Apparently old people are a tougher sell, usually younger demographic

      • Talks to about 20-30 people a day, thinks he should be doing more

        • Started out doing 4-6 hours a day, started working 10 hour days in May tripling his income
  • Worked for a different Door to Door solar prior, made about 45'000, his first year doing it

    • Did it for 4 hours a day

Personal Life:

  • Last year was a "little chaotic" timestamp

    • Started a business for online marketing

      • Wanted to fill the rest of the day since he was only putting in 4 hours a day at the prior solar company
    • Goes more into this "business" later on when explaining Debts

      • "So basically you get access to a platform, right? And you can uh you can start your business from there" timestamp

      • β–³

    • Also sold roofs in Florida for 3 months?

  • "I've been in debt since I was probably... eighteen years old"

    • "About to completely run out of money" last Decemberish

    • Tries explaining how he got in this situation in broad terms timestamp

Debts/Expenses:

  • "Special Financing Company LLC" $4'012 timestamp:

    • Down to about 3'000 now

    • Minimum payment $320

      • 240 to principal, 80 to finance charge?
    • Personal loan he took out to start the marketing business

    • Doesn't remember what the initial amount was

  • Taxes due timestamp:

    • Has not paid the IRS jannies :marseychad:

    • filed extension so he has until September

  • Interpersonal debts

    • Borrowed from them since he only made 600 in Feb?

    • Owes roommate about a $1'000

      • Paid off
    • Owes parents about $2'000

      • Not paid off
  • Student Loans timestamp

    • $49'845

    • Got a biology degree from "Old Dominion University" (Not sure I heard the name right)

    • Thinks it's between 4% and 6%

    • Probably minimum payment of $500

  • Another shot of The Spreadsheet, debts section this time timestamp

    • Verizon $1321

      • Financed an iPad and iPhone
    • Credit Card $6'628 timestamp

      • Cut it up sometime last month when he started making more money

      • Losing $100 in interest every month (18% in interest)

      • $164 minimum payment

      • Made $68 in purchases

Savings:

  • Nothing set aside for taxes currently

  • Nothing saved for Retirement

  • $4000 in his checking

  • Savings account 2100 ending balance timestamp

    • 3600 in 2000 out this month, might have gone to checking? Some Dave Ramsey thing about maintaining 1000 in savings

    • He starts going through all the debit transactions

      • Mysterious $148 charge from Alient timestamp

        • thinks he knows but doesnt want to say :marseythinkorino:

        • When I google Alient I only see a ceramics company and something that seems to have been acquired by AT&T

      • Best Buy $742 timestamp

        • Doesn't remember what this was, seems genuine this time :marseyxd:
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>paying based on presenting alone

how the frick does that work? who verifies he actually did the presentation? it also seems like it would be easy to rack up commission because late genx and below are kitties.

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They take some personal information to verify they at least tried.

Apparently old people are a tougher sell, usually younger demographic

You can absolutely verbal muscle your way into the young folks homes to sell them shit with enough charismania.

Some Kirby vacuum salesman muscled his way into selling a vacuum cleaner to one of my neighbors who already own roombas and a dyson.

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Just keep reaching for your waistband everytime they say they're not interested.

:marseyno::marseymagdump:

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Zoomers are too neurodivergent and millennials are too soy

:marseybroker: Let me into your home

:marseyzoomer::marseysoycry: Y-y-you too

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They get one β€œno thanks, not interested from me” and if they keep it up I close the door in their face. Autism has its advantages

:#marseychadneuro:

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>Hey buddy Ill give you a tenner if you sign here and say you listened to my r-slurred presentation

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Idk solar panel door to door sales is a sketchy butt industry. Its all basically a scam and this dude is prob in one of those garbage hard sales companies. I wish caleb would call these guys out more as hes had multiple on the show.

https://ppm.solar/solar-scams-wht-you-should-avoid-buying-from-a-door-to-door-solar-salesperson/

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you need people to open the door at all though

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If it's anything like the home exterior companies that came to my door, they usually call back to base to confirm appointments n shit.

I had to deal with them because the houses exterior is 30+ years old and falling apart slowly.

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This guy just needs to grindmaxx, $9k per month is easily enough to pay off all of that debt in a year

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I'd bet $3k/mo is closer to his long-term average and the $9k month was an anomaly. People who are bad with money always frame shit like that, like "I make $X/mo" when they made that one month and their average is way lower.

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He has a feminized brain. You're only supposed to do MLM if you have a husband with a stable job (until he kills you and boots your kids down an oil tank).

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Yeah, I kept waiting to hear about a crippling car payment with a payday loan used for the downpayment or something but it never came.

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Remember this is very likely pre-tax and doesn't include health insurance etc

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Are you actually Caleb Hammer? You seem to love the dude. Can't blame you, very entertaining to watch. :marseypopcorn:

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Someone pointed out that nobody would blind-watch a 50 minute video one of the first times I posted something of his here and it ballooned from there. He's my favorite channel on youtube right behind some juggalo adjacent lolcow stuff.

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Carp you got an actual rslur whos down with the clown

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Juggalo January when?

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Next month

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Yea I was really skeptical towards the time involvement but after watching one, it's now my favorite background thing to listen while doing other stuff. :marseythebuilder:

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Door to door sales is insanely brutal, and the companies are straight up pyramid schemes where they have to train new r-slurred rubes and take a cut of their sales. I had a third party MLM contracted by an office supply company harassing me for years. Straight commission, of course. So if you don't sign up, they don't eat that night, and it shows. They were trained to try to sneak past the front desk person to bug the decision maker. One of them lied to me about the cost to try to make the sale. They always seemed on the verge of a total meltdown. A phone company showed up at my house a couple days ago where the trainee didn't actually speak English so she couldn't tell me what the offer was.

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This is your average guy in a bio degree. Does 0 research or anything above and beyond the degree so he has no connections or a resume to actually get into med school :marseylaugh:

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Could we get Bardfinn on this show? Someone needs to suggest it to him.

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He has zero income, unpaid child support and lives with his parents. It would be a short episode.

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Does he have credit cards though :marseyhmm:

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He must bc I’m pretty sure he has paid for Reddit gold or whatever at some point and people here made fun of him for not only doing it for free, but paying reddit

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Biology major advancement tree:

  • Biology major

    • Medical school

      • Residency

        • Doctor
    • Graduate school

      • Post-doc

        • Industry

        • Tenure track

      • Industry

    • Poor-cel

Come the frick on it's not rocket science. Dude has the looks, he must be a dumb af r-slurred blonde.

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Dumbass gave his May 2022 statements for the checking.

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i love this shit

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