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i once heard that America is the best place to live only if you're rich, or at least close to rich. horrible if you are working an unskilled job with very average pay. While euripe is the complete opposite of this. if you work at mcdonalds, you will still be living decent. you will have the very basics at least.

I think this is fricking actually the fricking major difference between Europe and America.

Everyone in Europe is fricking poor but they are fricking ok with that somehow so they aren't complaining about how poor they are. Not everyone is fricking rich in America but we don't give a fricking frick about the fricking poor people and let them just be poor. Like no one cares this guy is fricking poor in Hawaii due to his own r-sluration.

/u/ok_bodybuilder9449 go back to Europe, you aren't American and aren't good enough to be here. Enjoy your mediocre life with lower standard of living than Mississippi


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Bong here, the main problem in the UK (and much of Europe) is the incentives.

If you had to design a tax & gibs system to discourage productivity, you'd get pretty close to what we have.

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But what's the fricking point, b-word? And how does anyone plan to keep getting long summer vacations and free healthcare if the fricking country is fricking both unproductive and in debt


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I'm in hawaii working a job for $24 an hour

im homeless. rent is like a $1600 for a studio. MINIMUM. normal rent value is $2000 and up.

going back to Europe

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I'm pretty sure there should be options other than "rent a studio apartment or larger" and "be homeless"...

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You think this Euro transplant in Hawaii has any friends to room with?

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back to Europe? They relocated to Hawaii for a 50k/yr job? Lmao

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If it's bait then it's got me. I want to believe:marseybaited:

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If you somehow manage to end up homeless in america, you genuinely need to have a little self-reflection.

The homeless rate in the US is around 0.2% at any given time. That's it! only one in 500 people manage to fail as hard as you're doing right now! If you consider an entire suburban high school graduating class, there might only be one or two people out of there who will frick up so irreparably that they end up homeless. At NO point, does someone in the bottom 0.2% get the right to say that "the system has failed me". What you need to be saying is "Why does the system work for 99.8% of people and not for me".

Sure you can have a really rotten string of bad luck, but even bad luck might only put you in the bottom 5%. You ever seen clips of Dave Ramsey? People are walking around with like $100k in credit card debt without going homeless, they do it for years! Somehow "the system" has failed someone with 100k in r-slurred credit card debt less than it has failed you. How? Genuinely answer that question and get some fricking sense into your brain.

You don't deserve the right to complain about the system. That's stolen valor from the people whom the system actually failed.

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Get r*ped cute twink

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"1 in 3 americans are one paycheck away from being homeless"

And yet the number that actually do end up homeless is a statistical zero


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1 in 3 Americans are one paycheck away from being homeless except people get fired all the time and none of them ever become homeless. Really makes you think

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I don't think I know a single person who grew up poor who has a mentality as bad as the average redditor.

This defeatist mentality is born solely from downwardly mobile middle class losers who assumed they were by default guaranteed the life of their childhood. Like former gifted kid discourse except probably not even with that going for them

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Neighbors like this could live like a king in a flyover state but would rather b-word on Reddit

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As someone who lived in a flyover state, this is true. I was a bartender during the coof and made a killing working at a high end cocktail bar in a flyover state. It was true, unironic kino.

>$950/mo on a 1BR constructed 3 years before my move in

>free wifi in bldg, nice ammenities including an indoor pool and hot tub

>8 blocks away from my work and core downtown, so I didnt even need to use a car to get around for work or nightlife

>made a killing on tips because our bar set 18% as minimum gratuity on the card reader and strags too b-word made to type a custom tip, and our cheapest cocktail was $14.

>food costs were down hard, as were dive bar prices

The only true negative is that there are no skinny b-words in flyover states they are ALL obeasts. Besides that, yeah it was great. Super friendly people, unbelievably low cost of living... shit was great

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:soycry: but there's nothing there!

There's an Aldi's around the corner. PAC within walking distance of my house. Costco. Sam's Club. Home Depot. An active mall. A vibrant downtown with farmers markets.

Even if I didn't have a car, I had easy access to a nice dinner, then see Mamma Mia, then drink. It may not be Michelin Star but who gives a shit when your mortgage is $700?


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>nothing to do

This is all just cope. My flyover city had all the reddit shit like beercades for these soys to enjoy. The food scene was actually great too, steakhouses were kino and the beef was fresh as it was locally sourced, high end cuisine was also insanely good with some original ideas on menu, fusion spots with their own microgreen growhouse inside the restaurant for peeps to peruse... theater tickets werent over the moon, bars were always lively, and summer had decent fun stuff from golf to lake days, hunting season was great too. There's a lot to do, people really just pretend otherwise to not move there.

As for no public transport, you can get a used car pretty cheap and go anywhere you want, especially with how much you can save by living out in a flyover.

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The pay is also relative. Any job that pays $24/hr in Hawaii probably pays $7.25 in the Midwest or the South, the only places with significantly lower and/or reasonable cost of living.

Literally hardly anyone gets paid minimum wage in these states. I live in a flyover state and McDonalds employees start at like $14 an hour in my bumfrick small town and it's like $16 in any decent sized city.

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Compared to Europe, lolno.

>1 year out of my grad program

>earning just shy of 6 figs

>12k emergency fund

>7k in my 401k

>5k spent on travel all paid in cash

>2.2k on my new pc paid in cash

>spent like 2k on a ton of stuff during black friday sale

>new car

>student loans going down

>never skimp out on food quality at grocery store and eat hyper fresh foods

>never purchase cheap booze

>can afford to go out and ball out every weekend of every month, do so ofteb

And if I had a gf splittibg just my rent Id unironically have an extra $12k/yr so a 10% down from just me on a house would be doable without changing my spending habits at all.

If I were a poorcel earning less than what I currently make Id have to definitely cut back a bit (no new car, lower quality food, less travel and expensive outings) but its super easy to live really well, especially with a gf to split rent.

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No because I live in a state with a functioning economy.

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reddit is skewing my perspective, making me unsure if I'm upper lower class, or middle middle class, or what.

By reddit standards I'm a 1%er but I don't own a boat or two-story house

i'm doing fine financially, but also have a really cheap lifestyle relative to my income


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