I keep running into roadblocks and figuring out a way forward - but - how the frick am I going to get everything put back together right?
Anyways, I'm in heck.
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no idea what any of this is
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Hey me neither. I'm just trying to remove all of this weird junk out of the way so I can drill some holes in metal.
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Did you take pictures of each part before you took it apart?
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I took pictures and bagged everything with its associated bolts. I also have scans of the factory service manual but the pictures are like 180px wide resolution.
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Sounds like you need to bribe a buddy with beer and get a consultation. Your probably just nervous, and a buddy and beer can up that confidence to the point your willing to tackle it.
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I went into this being told it's okay if it doesn't work out. Basically all I have riding on this personally is my self esteem and I hoped that by doing this for my sister, my mom would chip in and help me out with some of the parts I need to repair my Porsche lol.
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It was nice of them to paint all the parts blue so you can't tell what is what.
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Oh no!! Like you can't fix her car?
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I can get to the point where I can fix the block, the main cause of the issue. The problem is my lack of confidence putting everything back together properly. Although I could always pay for someone to finish it once I get to that point.
The job I'm doing is about $1k in parts and if I was charging, around $4.5k in labor. The thought is to try this fix and see if it works before spending $10k+ on a new engine. So even if I have to pay somebody $2k to finish the job, it's still only 30% of what an engine would cost and skips the 4-8 month waiting list.
I have a full bottle of adderall so my only hang up is how much time I'm spending away from my raccoons. I worry they'll have gone off to mate by the time I get back.
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Buy the engine repair manual. It will have all the assembly steps and torque specs. I'm confident you can do it
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It's all online but the pictures are super compressed and tiny. There isn't a third party purchasable manual available for this generation as far as I could find.
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Did you try searching https://libgen.is ?
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Surely you can get an engine for less than 10k? I could get an LSX for that money
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That $10k+ includes labor to swap it in. I'm seven hours away from my garage and on a sloping gravel driveway so I'm not in a position to do that kind of work here.
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Why not tow it there? Is it too far away?
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Seven hours away.
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Goog luck. I believe in you.
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Fair enough, I don't know what labour costs are like in America but that would definitely be on the steep side over here.
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found the incel
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why would you spend 10k on a new engine for some shitbox car?
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Because she just bought the car two months ago and owes $20k on it, and won't be able to get a loan on another car.
If it needs a new engine, my mom will end up buying it for her. What I'm doing is an attempt to not have her have to pay that $10k.
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Darn, how many miles are on it? Year?
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105k. She's the second owner so even if it was less, the 100k mile warranty only applies to the first owner so she'd be screwed anyways.
The icing on the cake is that Kia has a recall on this engine - but only in the Sorrento, not the Sedona. Plus if she was eligible, it would still be a 4 month to year long wait for a new engine and she needs a functioning car in the meantime.
I do have a lead on another possibly free Volvo though, so if I fail she could possibly drive that until we figure something out.
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Well serves her right for spending 20-something-k on a fricking kia with over 100,000 miles. Jesus christ, just get a fricking corolla new for like 23k at that point lmao.
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She restores furniture for a “living” so she needs something she can haul furniture in.
Her previous car was a Kia Borrego and it served her well for 10 years and 275k miles.
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actually impressive on the borrego. i am very partial to the rav 4 l, its my puppy car. i prefer the crv, but the back slopes in like a trapezoid so it sucks for loading/unloading large items. have no idea why some car companies still dont square off the back hatch.
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Honestly peak foid moment buying this shitbox
20k for a car with 100k miles that's lucky to make it to 60k miles, thousands of pieces of information on the internet screaming this that she obviously didn't read
Normally my advice would be to buy an engine out of a wreck on eBay, you can get basically anything for $1200+shipping with 20-90k miles on it running and ready to swap in. Swaps are much easier than rebuilds. On this shitbox it could almost certainly be done in an afternoon and it's basically plug and play.
The problem is that any Kia engine with 30k on the clock has a 50/50 chance of grenading in the next 5k miles lmao
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Is she r-slurred?
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This is a ballsy diy job.
How much experience do you have working on cars?
So far I've learned to change my own oil
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I've done stuff like replacing alternators, water pumps, etc along with body, electrical, and suspension work. This is my first time actually cracking into the motor - although I've done things like installed new pistons on tractors. The difference is tractors don't have complicated electrical and cooling systems.
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You should do just fine then honestly
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Did you make sure to top of the blinker fluid at least
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If you took pictures you'll be ok, half that shit is useless anyway. Also,
PushGODS win yet again.
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yup, it's fricked
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What was the original issue you need to fix?
I don't like the look of that antifreeze.
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Head bolts pulled themselves out of the block due to bad casting / factory torque specs. So basically it's a head gasket job with the extra step of drilling out and doing inserts on the block.
She claims it never overheated - I don't think she makes long enough trips to cen get it up to temperature regularly. Just noticed not getting heat one day.
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I know I'm late to this but I used to work on kias as an apparentice and they are so fricking bad. The old v6s in the mini vans used to have faults where the cylinder sleeves would seperate from the engine blocks. Just garbage.
I had to fix my Toyota 7M-GE with a similar issue (under torqued) but its was an iron block so it's was as easy as a head service + ARP head studs. youd have to strip this to the block, take that to an engineering shop/engine builder which is a total frick around as you most likely know already.
Looking at this I'd say get a wrecker/junk yard motor but it'll probably have the same problem.
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How much of the shit you had to remove to get to the heads is actually critical? I usually run into a 50/50 split of actual important shit VS plastic garbage any time I'm working under the hood.
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A lot of stuff I'm not going to bother with, like fastening down all of the wires. It's got a lot of little coolant hoses though. Like who needs a water cooled throttle body? Never run into one of those before.
Taking the camshafts and chains out make me a bit nervous but I think I've marked it up with enough paint pen to get it back just right.
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And if you're worried about shit going back together, go get some paint markers and electrical tape in different colors and color code the wire and hose connections.
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It's too late for that. I think I'm good getting the correct ones hooked up. It's missing one or two, or putting a bunch of shit back together and then realizing I forgot a step.
I've got plenty of time to peepee with it. It's just a matter of missing my raccoon and worrying that he's going to go off and mate or find new territory while I'm gone.
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look im not a car guy, but wouldn't you first remove the engine from the car before disassembling it?
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Depends on the engine. Inline 4s can be done on the car easily enough in most instances.
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Sometimes it's less of a pain repairing it in place. Some cars require the front end remobed and entire engine bay emptied
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It's a Kia, just throw it in the trash and get a new one.
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Transverse V6cels stay losing
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It's a Kia so you were already fricked before you started.
Finish putting the new head gasket in, flush the milkshake out of your coolant, then sell it.
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Not having the facilities to do this easily is a big handicap. Its not turbo fricked, you're just going
to have to scoure the internet 
for a better 
manual and do some google 
foo for putting it back together. You might not be able to do a whole lot without some cowtools you'd have at your garage.
You can do it friend.
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