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Homeless in the US: Supreme Court seeks to make homelessness illegal : worldnewsvideo
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this is just about anti public camping laws btw (like in public parks, on street
corners, etc), which a lower court 
had ruled was unconstitutional and is now going 
to the supreme 
court 
for appeal
this doesnt make homelessness illegal
lmfao
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there are still way too many fricks squatting in those places in my city so this is still a win knowing some hand wringing local judge can't declare a shit filled tent on the street corner a human right, actually
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Honestly I hate the homeless but if someone wants to just live in a tent and be a piece of shit, should the government have the right to tell them they can't?
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But then what's to stop them from demanding we all contribute to society? 99% of dramanauts are doomed if that's the case
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ok i'll be genuine with you for a minute. while i'm not a libertarian i sympathize with the viewpoint that more government oversight begets abuse. yes, illegalizing a state of being (in the literal sense, not in the way leftists abuse the term) is an alarming precedent to set in law. but firstly, as others say it's not illegalizing not having a mailing address, or not having employment. it's just limiting the amount you can shit up society by being homeless in public, commonly used spaces. i think that's a fair space for government to inhabit. secondly, the tragedy of the commons is very real and i'm not so naive that i think "people will just be nice and considerate on their own so we don't need laws". so i will accept that some cop somewhere will probably throw some homeless dude's shit away maliciously due to these laws, but the actual, genuine harm done to society by that is much less than allowing homeless to congregate in public areas and get away with anything less than murder.
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These people deliberately stay in common areas and public spaces, too. If they cared so much about not being bothered and asked to move they could probably go camp innawoods somewhere and get away with it for a long time before anyone discovers them and asks them to leave. But then they wouldn't be within walking distance of a drug dealer.
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Bums tend to conquer the common areas for themselves, rendering them de facto no longer "common areas".
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Honestly, that's my dream.
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The implications of ruling against the city seem pretty massive. If a city cannot control where someone is or is not allowed to perform certain acts, then why can't I just rezone my own home to be a commercial lot whenever I feel like it? Either cities can regulate what is allowed to be constructed where or they cannot.
The real problem is that homeless, etc get to slide by rules and regulations, and the consequences are always dodged or delayed. If a normal person sat in front of a store being belligerant they'd be in jail by the end of the day, but when a methed-out schizo does it the cops shrug and do nothing.
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It was a fun Covid pill to ask people what should be done with the homeless. Somehow they weren't expected to mask or be vaccinated the way everyone else was. They were permitted to be disease vectors in ways that no one else could, and there was never a reason given as to why.
Cities are incapable of getting them the help they actually need, rather than the programs that cost a lot and don't do anything to fix the problem on more than a day to day basis, and nearly all the reasons that could be reflect incredibly poorly on the activists and politicians who work to make that happen.
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