the gov re trump immunity
https://twitter.com/TM1Politics/status/1783525071362908393
JUST IN: Justice Alito just blew up the entire argument by the DOJ.
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Alito: "If the president gets advice from the attorney general, that something is lawful, is that an absolute defense?"
Dreeben: “yes”
Alito: “Wouldn’t the President just pick an AG who’ll let him do… pic.twitter.com/T2L7u29nZU
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If you are pro-drama you are anti-presidential immunity because then all the living presidents are fricked. A turbolibtard blew up at me once bcuz I told them I want Trump to get BTFO because then it would be funny if Obama got fricked from drone striking a burger citizen. Wingcucks HATE drama.
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There was some position in Ancient Rome that was filled for 1 year by a random collection of citizenry. While serving their 1 year, they had absolute legal immunity. After their 1 year, the next groups first task was to decide if the past group is guilty of anything.
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Unfortunately im not sure if modern people are capable of abstraction enough to understand that dilemma tbh.
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"But he's guilty so why is there a trial?"
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Can someone who is more worldly than me explain this case to me?
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Rich guy had s*x with porn star, then arranges pay-off for her to keep her mouth shut. Because she's a whore, of course she can't keep it shut and tries extorting more money out of him by going public during his first presidential campaign. Now politically-motivated New York prosecutor is taking a case against him, not for paying off the hooker, but for paying her off from the wrong slush fund. Apparently this should have been a campaign expense not a private expense. Yeah, it makes no sense to me either, but it's got nothing to do with "breaking the law" and all to do with "you're in the wrong political party and we're going to stop you running against our guy by hook or by crook".
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My shitlib friends were all over it recently (I think Donnie's is currently in hearings over it?) and they were saying he's accused of fraud. Is it actually fraud? You got any heckin' SOURCES?
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no that's probably the "we don't have a victim but he lied on paperwork to get a loan" case in new york
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Pretty sure thats a different case, that's the NY trial that just started. The SCOTUS isn't involved in that, this is from the Biden Justice Dept trying to charge him with Jan 6th election interference shit.
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This is correct
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Oh, I thought it was the NY one. There are so many cases going right now, anyone able to remind me how Georgia is going, after the DA and her snookums got outed?
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!commenters this is a good summary
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i dont remember signing up for this ping group
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People are trying to arrest a politician for fricking a hooker. Which he probably did, but its kind of like he who is without sin cast the first stone
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If they're going to try and convict "politicians who slept around while in office, out of office, and between being in office", they'll need to build three new jails, one with a wing just for Bill Clinton alone. Anthony Weiner is gonna need his own separate jail.
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Your supposed to drown the prostitutes in your knee-deep pool they were "paddle boarding" in at 3am, not pay them, Jesus
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I thought it was a chef
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It's classier if they have a different job title.
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Isnt the crux of the issue whether he used campaign funds to shut the hooker up?
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Which, is still something poticians do. But really its about if paying off a hooker is a reportable campaign expense. Not where he paid from
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wouldnt it matter whether he spent his own money or donor money meant for his campaign?
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Paying hush money for something that would hurt your campaign seems like a a reasonable campaign expense.
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Except this was after Access Hollywood is there something that would have hurt his campaign more than grab them by the kitty
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no the heart of the charge is orangemanbad
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The other replies are r-slurred and wrong. This isn't the hooker case this is about the January 6th one. Specifically how far does presidential immunity go, which would also effect the Florida, Georgia, and New York cases as well.
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Yeah but those are all boring
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Please give the president immunity the short term lulz will be worth whatever harm that does to our country.
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the zoomers in my workplace both laughed and declared, "bruh" when I sent them this LOL
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It sounds like an argument about ineffective counsel in essence. If you go shoppi g for an attorney that tells you its ok to murder your b-word ex-wive, is that an absolute defense against the murder charge? No, and also the attorney is disincentivised from giving advice like that because it gets him disbarred and he loses his job and income forever.
Also, dodnt Trump pay the hooker before he was elected? Immunity seems completely irrelevant to the case because it doesn't concern his actions as POTUS but as a private citizen...
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They're using the fact that he was a president at the time to jump it from a state level offense to a federal level offense so they kind of have to take the good with the bad there. The state level offense already had its statute of limitations run out and the federal government declined to prosecute so they've got an attorney general who's being very creative
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How do they plan on pulling that off? You got any lawcel sources that aren't lawtuber-tier librags?
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Because hes trump so all the stops are pulled out
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lawfare is not about convictions, but a conviction would be a nice W
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Does anyone have the video/audio? I don't really care what a maga flag wbs account has to say.
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SCOTUS cases aren't televised
or recordedin any way. (it's to protect our heckin' democracy, chud, stfu)The best they can do is literally send a tumblr artist in with a pen and paper to make horribly funny sketches of people.
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This is demonstrably wrong.
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We got a few bangers out of them.
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So I had to double-check, and it's not demonstrably wrong, but it seems they do allow audio recordings in addition to sketches. I didn't know that.
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"Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game, and dumb enough to think it's important."
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