@FourthAlt's comment on ':marseyflagpoland: Poland has a change of heart, they will not arrest Bibi if he visits Auschwitz :marseyl: Redditors are very disappointed :m!arseysoycry:'

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1hxixlr/poland_confirms_it_will_not_arrest_netanyahu_on/?sort=controversial

All for him being arrested...but a fricking holocaust memorial ceremony is neither the time nor place to do it.

This isn't about Israel vs Palestine or whatever grievances anyone has with Netanyahu or Israel. This is about remembrance for all those killed in the Holocaust.

Yeah totally makes sense let's give him a pass on bombing kids because remembering wars crimes is more important than stopping them.

This started a VERY long argument :marseylongpost2:

Poland being classy and not wanting to turn a deeply personal event for many into a debacle that would take away from its meaning? Nice. Looks like people here are big mad though.

Inviting a war criminal to celebrate ending the holocaust smells like hypocrisy, doesn't it?

Imagine thinking that classy and any eastern european country go together in any sentence. Or that any country here cares about war crimes :marseylaughpoundfist:

ICC is a fricking joke and now so is Poland.

You either stick to your guns regardless of the consequences or admit that you won't arrest him from the start, anything else is embarrassing :marseyagree:

Kitties. Just disband the ICC if no one is going to obey it

All these useless organisations are huge drama mines :marseyno:

What if Poland is playing 3d chess? Netanyahu would've never attended if Poland confirmed he'd be arrested.

Please Poland, do a bait and switch!

America will bend them over if they pull a stunt like that. I hope they do it :marseyfsjal:

Mongolia set precedent (with good reason) by not arresting Putin. Now, Poland follow suit.

Should Mongolia have just been invaded for that? Can you elaborate how they'd get Putin out of the country?

Cause the West clearly won't do shit whenever Russia invades someone.

We can always blame Putin for this :marseyfluffy:

Is a citizen's arrest legal in Poland?

Edit: I didnt make any statement to disagree with, but thanks for the downmarseys. I just thought Its worth asking. Apparently I made a huge mistake. Please forgive me Reddit Police.

Imagine the shitstorm if it happened, lol.

Antisemitism, Poland at it again, blah blah.

Yeah, I was thinking about all the consequences and thought this is worth asking if its a possible scenario.

I hope someone is stupid enough to try this :marseyagreefast:

Cowards

pathetic

All bark, no bite smh :marseydisagree:

Setting a example for putin you fools

Mongolia and South Africa already set that example with Putin.

It only counts when mayos do it :marseyindignant:

What a bunch of traitors.

I wasn't much in loop but from what I know only PIS was against that arrest at the beginning (President sent request to government to protect Natanyahu). Most pro current government voters were in favor of arresting Natanyahu.

Idk what truly influenced this decision but it may have to do with Trump. 95% of Poles love USA and Polish government is super pro USA. So fearing Trump's reaction to arrest, international affair, internal chaos, the government capitulated despite voters wanting otherwise.

Why would it be about Trump and not the US's dogged support for Israel since 1948? Poland is bowing to US hegemony, not Trump.

Why the frick did Poland even promised to arrest Bibi in the first place? They even did this after Trump was elected, it's not like they didn't know who would become president and what his stances on Israel were. Slavs :marseyshrug:

The ICC warrant is nothing but a piece of paper and hold no real weight. It's nice of Poland to allow a war criminal to visit where a far worse war criminal did some of his dirty work I guess.

Ugh, like who cares? :marseyseethe:

Why the abrupt change of heart, though? Most EU countries, including Poland, were adamant they would arrest Netanyahu should he decide to visit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_leaders#:~:text=%5B49%5D-,International,-European%20Union%3A%20Foreign

It looks like Poland got a good telling off from Uncle Sam and mended their ways.... Also, Israel may be a US ally, but it's been terribly unfair towards Poland over the years and it's not Poland's ally, it's anything but.

Maybe Netanyahu told Poland he would be attending, effectively calling Polands bluff, I guess it looks better on Poland to admit they won't arrest him before he arrives rather than swear they will and then not doing it

Fricking based if true :marseykneel:

If countries like South Africa won't arrest Putin but instead roll the red carpet. Why should the West be holier than the Pope and arrest our allies? There is an existential war going on between the democracies and dictatorships and we never should bow for the dictators.

You're fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the conflict. It's not say "democracy in Europe/America versus non-western dictatorship". It's a conflict of ideas between liberal-democracy and autocracy/authoritarianism and this is happening inter-state and intra-state. Donald Trump is in many ways aligned with the values of Putin more than he is with the values of liberal democracy. Likewise Orban in Hungary or Netanyahu in Israel despite their countries being liberal-democracies and historical allies.

Putin doesn't hate the UK or USA, he's at war with liberalism. So he's at war with us and the only way he won't be is if we are no longer a liberal-democracy (which is the direction of travel under Trump).

It's obviously messy as you can have players blurring the lines depending on the context and their own self interests.

Letting Netanyahu get away with war crimes is a victory not for democracies but for the autocratic/authoritarian World view that values naked self interest and might-makes-right politics. The reason that is a bad thing is because the liberal-democratic model has ushered in the single greatest period of peace in World history and was built on the lessons of the horrors of the great wars and other massacres.

Someone replied to this :marseylongpost: with another and more people reacted but I didn't read any comment here so I'm not sure what they're debating :marseyantiwork2: Probably some soy shit :soycry:

Smart move. Committing an act of war against a nation with nuclear weapons by arresting their head of state is probably not a great idea.

Horrible move, imagine all the cool videos we would have gotten if Israel nuked Poland :marseynukegoggles:

The frickin irony of this guy visiting a concentration camp while running one

Too many r-slurs on the internet don't seem to know what a concentration camp or a holocaust is. Just killing lots of people wasn't the shocking part of Nazi Germany :marseysigh: