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KillBoomersBeheadBoomers cut/medi/care Unapologetic shitlib  25d ago (text post) 399 thread views #348885 earned 136 coins from votes

Can someone TLDR me on why Trump is so fond of protectionism and tariffs?

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because rightoids subscribe to possibly the most r-slurred worldview in history.

That America has ever, at any point, been anything other than america first. the entire global economic system was set up to serve us, yet somehow in the rightoid world the opposite of this is true.

you're basically dealing with dangerously stupid idiots.

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the entire global economic system was set up to serve u

while kinda true, this advantage is waining as is US influence globally. If something isnt done, China will overtake the US as the global hegmon or if we dont end up in a world war first. It would have been irrational for the US to maintain the same foreign policy strategy that they have been given that its only lead to failed super expensive wars and the subsidizing of a bunch of countries that hate us no matter how much money we throw at them. Drumpf's solutions to that might not be the best at the end of the day(wont know till you try) butt at least he is doing something different.

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If something isnt done, China will overtake the US as the global hegmon or if we dont end up in a world war first.

They can't economically because they're still stuck in that poverty trap, their aging demographics and welfare state kneecap them, they're technologically decades behind the US in terms of military capability, and their overall corrupt system of shit private property rights and judicial system serve as a long-term cap on their growth.

They'll flounder like Japan did after the 80s and 90s. Their government isn't innovative enough because their economy is too (relatively) centrally planned. They're not a paper tiger. More like cardboard.

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while kinda true, this advantage is waining as is US influence globally

And what better way to regain influence than alienating your longest standing allies and trade partners :marseysmug2:

Trust the plan, fellow PVTRIQTS !

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trump ripped up the fricking trade deal meant to contain china.

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So did Obama with TPP. Were you criticizing your Party for that when it happened?

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are you saying obama is why the tpp was ripped up lmao?

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>memory fried from excessive benzos and beer

https://rdrama.net/h/pol/post/348885/can-someone-tldr-me-on-why/7910800#context

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the tpp was back on the table lmao, trump is the one that ended it.

hillary clinton was running on putting it in place, she was smeared by rightoids for it.

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Democrats hated it which is why it went nowhere. He had more than enough time to pass it during his second term.

Post article.

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do you guys honestly not remember 2016 lol?

Bernie and the Trumptards came after Hillary on the TPP, at some point she did declare she was against it, but only because Bernie and Trump went after her over it repeatedly and there's some weird anti-trade worldview growing in America now.

Trump 100% ended the tpp:

Twelve countries participated in negotiations for the TPP: the four parties to the 2005 Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership Agreement and eight additional countries. All twelve signed the TPP on 4 February 2016.[25] The agreement would have entered into force after ratification by all signatories, if this had occurred within two years. If the agreement had not been ratified by all before 4 February 2018, it would have entered into force after ratification by at least 6 states which together have a GDP of more than 85% of the GDP of all signatories. The withdrawal of the United States from the agreement in January 2017 effectively ended any prospect of the agreement entering into force. In response the remaining parties successfully negotiated a new version of the agreement that lacked the 85% GDP threshold, the CPTPP, which entered into force in December 2018.

On 23 January 2017, US President Donald Trump signed a presidential memorandum to withdraw the United States' signature from the agreement, making its ratification as it was in February 2016 virtually impossible.[27]

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1741746825Wmj4mwmxKbct3A.webp

Here's Trump going after her over it:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/sep/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-lauded-controver/

The GOP themselves ran ads on it:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-tpp/index.html

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I could have sworn obama was pushing for TPP

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He was initially, but then it dissipated like a fart. Some countries wanted to amend certain clauses, which was doable, but a lot of the Democratic voters got mad about granting advantageous deals to US pharmacy and various IP holders, so they grumbled upward, and he caved in.

Ironic, that so many of them hated Big Pharmacy then compared to now. Much of the deal was for protecting American IP too, but so it goes. How the People forget. :marseytears:

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clearly he thought it was a bad plan :marseyshrug:

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Because hes a fricking mongoloid.

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mongoloid

>frick you, you cracker b-word

:#speechbubble:

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!builtfor !BWC

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while kinda true, this advantage is waining as is US influence globally. If something isnt done,

The problem is, you can only be one of the based accelerationist candidate or the boring bipartisan candidate who staves off decline and Trump made his choice.

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No they can't lol.

The US is a larger economy, and if people want to sell products here, they'll end up with dollars.

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