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:marseyjannygenocide: Reddit is making sitewide protests basically impossible : technology

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1ft0cei/reddit_is_making_sitewide_protests_basically/

								

								

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Reddit is giving its staff a lot more power over the communities on its platform. Starting today, Reddit moderators will not be able to change if their subreddit is public or private without first submitting a request to a Reddit admin. The policy applies to adjusting all community types, meaning moderators will have to request to make a switch from safe for work to not safe for work, too.

By requiring admin approval for the changes, Reddit is taking away a lever many communities used to protest the company's API pricing changes last year. By going private, the community becomes inaccessible to the public, making the platform less usable for the average visitor. And that's part of the reason behind the change.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17277395812705846.webp


How can we turn this to our own advantage?

Like I wonder what we can do to make this whole approval system a shit show.

If you can't beat them, then overdose them on what they want.

The promised 24 hour SLA seems like a target. A sort of DDOS attack of requests. But there's no accountability for them if they don't meet it.

I was imagining simple hacks like mods creating a new sub as a mirror for all posts to the original sub, and making the new sub private / NSFW from the start. Gets around the new Reddit rules, but accomplishes the same as a blackout. Requires coordinated mod action, but we've already shown that's possible.

I've worked a lot in trust and safety and half of the fun is gaming out the areas where structures can be abused or gotten around.

https://media.tenor.com/zh58XZRJuzYAAAAx/cat-hacking.webp

"The ability to instantly change Community Type settings has been used to break the platform and violate our rules,"

What rules does it break?

The golden rule: that it only exists to make money and benefit itself

https://media.tenor.com/DiDz8VtDHfIAAAAx/strict-policy.webp

I get the feeling they're going to keep "fixing" the site until *it becomes trash and cause a mass exodus of users like Digg and Tumblr did.


Eat shit, Spez.

It's Go_JasonWaterfalls now.

:#marseydarkspez:

Every year Reddit turns more and more into a platform solely for moderators to press their various political agendas.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17277395862003334.webp

https://media.tenor.com/jq6rhlEUW4oAAAAx/shocked-surprised.webp


This is, of course, a response to the Blackout :marseyblacked: protests back in Spring of 2023 due to Reddit deciding to charge for API access and killing off a bunch of Apps

The ongoing and increasingly weird Reddit blackout, explained

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Reminder that when mods closed /r/nba they continued posting on it privately and discussing the playoffs

They literally couldn't stop using it

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I can't remember what natural disaster it was for but they closed a city or state subreddit during one, people were begging them to open it so people could share info, they opened it a few days later and claimed they were unable to get online due to the storm or w/e

And then people found out they were posting on the private sub the whole time :marseydarkxd:

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I mean social media is supposed to be addicting

The problem is reddit letting the most giga-addicted users run the asylum. Anyone who's dealt with a true fiend knows that they won't hesitate to steal + sell literally anything that's not nailed down to get their next fix. I think the mods literally can't put it down. If anyone wants to make some ethically dubious cash position yourself in 20 years to run a social media rehab clinic where people are physically forced to touch grass.

Bonus mention for all the users who have withdraw symptoms whenever reddit / mods go dark. Addicts the lot of them.

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the rdrama kids would get bullied at the social media rehab

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I think it'd be much more effective if mods just... stopped moderating

even the !jannies on this site don't have the conviction to do this, let alone the leredditeur mods

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But the jannies here are good? :marseymoplicker:

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:#marseydisagreefast:

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Automod already does 99.99% of their jobs, users won't know the difference until they start seeing wrongthink creep into their subs.

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The most recent protest proved that's not the case at all. They just started putting powermods in charge of the subs that wouldn't comply to moderation rules

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are there enough powermods if every subreddit did it tho?

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Powermods already run most of the important subs, they wouldn't have to do it with every sub protesting. Just bigger mainstream ones that constantly show up on the front page. Smaller ones could have new mods put in place, there's always people willing to fill those holes

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Yeah they will never do it because they know there is an endless legion of scabs who will gladly pick up that mop for free and lick the reddit boot even harder

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If they did that Reddit might actually gain users so it would be a horrible move

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"Oh look Reddit actually good again for some reason, weird"

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The second that they started protesting spez should have told 2 of the powerjannies that he is taking their mop away and that would be the last protest in Reddit history

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the comments talking about protests like "leave the sub unmoderated" :marseyxd:

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1ft0cei/comment/lpp1rkh/?context=8

They still don't understand there are hordes of absolute losers lining up to clean for free

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They also overestimate the impact, without mod action subs would be run by upmarseys/downmarseys and big subs would be completely unchanged

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people might have fun again? :marseypearlclutch:

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Worse. People might notice.

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stupid pesky bernie bros at it again!

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People might be allowed to see content that the mods don't want them to see.

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The funniest part is that so many of them can acknowledge that:

a. The major subs have been modded by the same people for years; and

b. These subs have noticably declined in quality over the years;

Yet still come to the conclusion that

c. The current mods being ousted and replaced would make the subs worse.

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Imagine if this policy was around in the /r/drama approvedcel/unapprovedcel era :marseysmug:

Jannies cucked once again :marseyjanny2genocide:

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No. If you stop moderating and get legitimate moderators banned, then you open subreddits mod positions to bad actors such as Russian trolls. That would allow widespread misinformation and the quelling of real information on legitimate subs.

DO. NOT. STOP. MODERATING.

:#soysnootypefasttalking:

These r-slurs somehow never mention the Iranian and Chinese bots that flood the internet with the "America bad" shit that they lap up.

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I can't tell if these neighbors literally believe they are American heroes, maintaining the integrity of our democracy as an ardent force against Russian disinformation or if they're trying to justify their addiction to the broom to themselves

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17278066291678455.webp

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Hey check out this totally legit article from press.tv.

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Every time someone on Reddit points out that Chinkshit tech is full of bloat and spyware you have a horde of wumaos replies saying that it's racism and propaganda.

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Why don't the Redditors just leave if they hate it so much?

Like I remember when a salesperson was a little bit curt to me once and I have never considered using that company again.

Imagine that but actually you bend over daily for the rude salesman to anally r*pe you while complaining that there's nothing you can do to stop it and the anal male feminist has now deprived you of wearing !chastity bussy protection so now you have no choice but to be anally r*ped daily for the rest of your life.

Meanwhile the door is open and the anal male feminist says you're welcome to leave at any point and his primary goal isn't even anally raping you, it's to sell you advertising.

It's weird.

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Because there's barely any online leftoid spaces with that many members. Reddit is basically the last one.

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Weird changes. How does this benefit reddit?

Edit: im just now remembering about the black out protest

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Prevents jannies from locking users out of the site every time they chimp out

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Lmao at trying to find edge cases for a website that just bans and replaces :marseyjanny: whenever it wants. They're not some neurodivergent forum moderator who always follows the rules.

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i really feel no pity. markets don't serve the best interest of consumers.

so until people want to wake up to that fact and decide that actually do want to create alternatively funded platforms, i really dgaf about the fact corps will invariably shit all over their favorite hangouts.

libs can keep drinking their own piss :marseypearlclutch2: woke capitalism is literally the dumbest shit ever.

... reminds me i should prolly renable my paypig status. :marseypig:

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Reddit is giving its staff a lot more power over the communities on its platform. Starting today, Reddit moderators will not be able to change if their subreddit is public or private without first submitting a request to a Reddit admin. The policy applies to adjusting all community types, meaning moderators will have to request to make a switch from safe for work to not safe for work, too.

This was always going to be the end goal once Reddit went public. Reddit is in "make money now" mode since they need to make up for their CEO's extremely high compensation. I'd expect we will continue to see moderators lose more and more power.


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I think they have 2 plans for the future.

1. Make all the normy subs permanently public and advertiser friendly, and have ever-present admin presence lording over jannies that dare shut down the constant bot traffic giving them "engagement" numbers.

2. Make all NSFW subs turn to the "pay to play" private model, so advertisers won't cry about it and all the coomers pay Reddit to get their rocks off.

Both will eventually kill the site.

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I am actually :marseynerd3: surprised :marseyflushzoom: reddit :marseybongosnoo: hasn't been sued, because it is actually :marseynerd3: against the law for a for-profit company to use volunteer :marseyjanny2: labor for its primary operations, which is moderating the darn website.

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Jannies are being paid in having any semblance of control over other people

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I wouldn't be surprised if for certain subs janitors were actually being paid by corporations and advertisers. Which just means Reddit suffered from the same disease as Digg before they changed the website and caused the mass exodus.

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Both will eventually kill the site.

God I can't fricking wait.

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God dayumn it

reddit sitewide protests were so dramapilled

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Mops being broken is good for drama too though. See how desperately they cling to their unpaid roles :marseysmug2:

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Good.

Subreddits belong to the communities that use them and not the jannies that clean them!

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I love that they think they can spam the request queue and not get permabanned, when reddit already hands out permabans like candy for "abusing" the report and reddit-cares queues. This could be hilarious

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I was imagining simple hacks like mods creating a new sub as a mirror for all posts to the original sub

Lmao this r-slur really thinks the users will join their new spinoff sub :marseylaugh:

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Reddit needs to institute a daily karma weighted ban lottery, and in one year, it will be fixed

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Keyed spez. AJAB :marseyjanny:

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>I get the feeling they're going to keep "fixing" the site until *it becomes trash and cause a mass exodus of users like Digg and Tumblr did.

reddit has been trash for a decent amount of time at this point...my account went down when they killed the rif app...haven't logged in since then...

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Yes, Reddit is making it impossible for .001% of the community to unilaterally cripple the site. And?

Remember when jannies justified the protests by saying the API changes would literally kill Reddit? How did that prediction play out once they were crushed?

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Duh

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and cause a mass exodus of users like Digg and Tumblr did.

If I had a nickel every time users say this particular change is going to make reddit turn into dig I'd probably have like a dollar over the span of ten years.

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One day I do believe :marseyparappa: it will actually :marseyakshually: happen. They DAU is actually :marseyakshually: a lot lower than I thought, and it can only go down from here

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You have 3 known reddit accounts, 2 of which are perm. banned for harassment, at least two twitter accounts that will crosspost between each other to create artificial engagement, and the rdrama account where you boasted about getting me banned for harassment, which ended up getting your main banned from reddit. I have no doubt in my mind that you're using an alt to send false crisis report.

Also, I wasn't the one who decided anything on your ban, Kicken was. Kicken knows way more about this than I do and I have never cared about anything you've tried to accuse me of. What I do care about is how disrespectful to real artists who put in years for their art you are. You think you're doing something that no one else can grasp but in reality you're just an /r/antiwork poster with a lot of free time on their hands. You have no idea what work means, get over yourself.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1ft0cei/reddit_is_making_sitewide_protests_basically/:

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How can we turn this to our own advantage?:

https://media.tenor.com/zh58XZRJuzYAAAAx/cat-hacking.webp:

https://media.tenor.com/DiDz8VtDHfIAAAAx/strict-policy.webp:

I get the feeling they're going to keep "fixing" the site until *it becomes trash and cause a mass exodus of users like Digg and Tumblr did.:

Eat shit, Spez.:

Every year Reddit turns more and more into a platform solely for moderators to press their various political agendas.:

https://media.tenor.com/jq6rhlEUW4oAAAAx/shocked-surprised.webp:

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You strags pissed off reddit admins with your r-slur shit and now they're taking away your toys. Get fricked libertarian mods.

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