Someone entered an art competition with an AI-generated piece and won the first prize.
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Artcels in fricking shambles
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Codecels celebrating on this post cause they finally have something to compensate their soulless lack of creativity. Talk about cope
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Don't worry creativestrag, when us codecels are soon replaced by AI, it's over... for humans in general
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Nooooooooo this can't be possible art has soul in it only humans can make real art!
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Yes, this was a drawing contest, not an art contest. Good job.
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I wonder why there's no seethe about vocaloid stealing jobs from singers? Or maybe there is but I'm not paying attention.
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AI can compose too
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good
EDIT: srspost prediction tiem
in about 20 years most of these things will be AI generated and driven. Human created art will always exist but will be more niche and likely much more expensive as the market shifts to much cheaper and faster produced AI versions.
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Artcels BTFOD with TECHNOLOGY and ROBOTS
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This is the biggest artcel BTFO since photography
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Lol it's over for artcels! Musiciancels your days are numbered!
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It's still got some kinks to work out. Interesting tho.
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This is from more than two years ago, which is like 10 years in machine learning. Once OpenAI switches their focus back to audiogen I think shit's going to get really interesting considering how much better imagegen and textgen have gotten
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AI music sounds really uncanny. It just doesn't sound like it's going anywhere. I hate it
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i think it gets better and better every year. But yeah mostly agree for now
https://www.aisongcontest.com/participants-2022
I really like this one:
https://www.aisongcontest.com/participants-2022/3i
Edit: The best results seem to be more collaborative which is probably how this tech will be used in the future.
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Interesting name...
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Style transfer for music
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"Artists" in shambles.
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sometimes state fairs aren't as competitive as you think
Even in the professional painting category, sometimes the judges go several years only seeing:
Brenda's vase of flowers (2022 edition)
a washed out looking painting of Pam's grand son
Gary painted a big bass hanging from fishing line again this year
Picasso inspired abstract by drunk 40 something with art degree
"impressionist" woman on beach as seen from behind wearing blue bikini
sunflowers
I just read that this is digital art, which means there might only be four other entries
I know people who have won first place in the fair because no one, or only one person bothered entering anything into an obscure category.
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Why are you taking away from their hard earned victory?
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You also didn't mention your main competition is highschool students.
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Most fairs have Youth divisions
and a lot of them have an Amateur vs Professional division for adults
I guess if the Youth Division is split 13-17 instead of something like (11-14, 15-18) and there's a ton of 18 year old high school students
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I can taste the seethe
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So "real" artists should never use PS brush?
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the guy probably toiled at least 6 hours if it makes them feel any better
clicking buttons and managing prompts, lol
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Yeah honestly I can kinda understand AI tuning as a pretty time intensive task. Even if the art is artist quality, most professionals will be very particular, and someone willing to spend a few hours getting an AI to behave is probably still worth something.
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Last night I ran a prompt that gave me kind of a good result, so I made 64 more while I slept-- but none of them were as good as the first one
it was a fluke
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Maybe use the good one as a seed or something?
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more artcel cope https://nitter.net/docsquiddy/status/1558766245582880768
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What a cope fueled garbage analogy. It'd be more accurate to say that most people are perfectly happy driving their mass manufacturer vehicles than having some expensive vehicle custom made for them. But then that would be the opposite of the point he's desperately trying to make.
The point of successful art is to be pleasing to the viewer. It may or may not illicit emotions, the viewer just needs to enjoy viewing it. Whether it's a person or an AI that does it makes no difference. People are going to go with what they like looking at the most.
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Also does this r-slur honestly think that having autonomous vehicles is somehow useless?
The companies that successfully bring fully functional driverless semis to market are going to make disgusting amounts of money. Even if he hates money, having computers drive gigantic trucks instead of methed out truckers that haven’t slept in half a week is objectively a good thing for society.
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Noooo the point of art is to give a job to artists!!! What do you mean you don't look at paintings are drawings and think "man I bet the guy that did this survived off it for years"?!
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Someone feed it Marseys
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Tried to set up the image to prompt thingie to get the best prompts to get marseys, but I'm a windowscel and got filtered at the 4th command line (actually 1st because I didn't have git ). I'll maybe try setting it up on Google Colab but the specific environment may make it bug out.
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Twy onye fwom here: https://pharmapsychotic.com/tools.html
Teh cwowlab nywotebwooks nywowadays are much mwore user fwiendwy as cwompared two a few mwonths agwo which is a gwood thing wowl
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Yeah, I saw yesterday that you could do some good UI shit, that's probably gonna help me with getting my work project to be understandable by other people.
Will try one of those then.
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@chiobu will be replaced
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Maybe I'm actually an AI all these while
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Plz be my ai gf
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i whip out my gwock
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I love the smell of luddite fear in the morning.
"B-but it makes soulless art! It isn't human!"
Neither are artists
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No wonder you think artists are getting replaced.
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SOVL
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I love this art
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Thanks, my GPU has a real talent
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Gay fairy wedding I made
Dark ballet dancer with dahlias
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What software?
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Midjourney Beta
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He's not wrong tho??
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Sorry chud, to make art you can’t look at other art
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its a generic catch all reddit response when they have no retort available, if you ask them to elaborate why its not clever or whatever they would break down
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Just one of twitter's few dozen thought terminating cliches.
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You would think that the more influences you have, the more 'original' your art would be, right?
Who's really the one stealing art styles?
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They're in full on cope mode when faced with the fact that all their jobs as "independent artists" will be taken over by AI within a few decades
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At this rate, all commission artists will be out of business within 3 years
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Inshallah
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Few things makes me happier than artcels getting dunked. If they want to be an artist they better be martial artist.
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zoz
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zle
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zozzle
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My foid says this is "book cover art"
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@Sammael-Beliol is that true?
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Looks like it to me, so I assume it was a drawing competition, not an art competition, just marketing. The third picture is a clear front and back with the space fighters being on the back cover that folds over imo.
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straggot
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AI generated art is so fricking based. i love that all the people that were saying "we'll outsource le redneck jobs to robots!" now get a taste of how fricking obsolete theyll be when robots can generate scripts, porn, commissions and music better than their shitty sadbrained crap
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AI makes too much weird, surreal stuff. The good ones are ones carefully selected by humans, which means that it can't be that automated. I'd argue that it'll never be 100% automated until the computer actually becomes sentient (in which case we have more important issues to deal with). AI art is somewhat going to BTFO artists, but it'll be more like artists become people who generate and then edit an image rather than 'computer, draw me a picture of X'
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Cope. The output is improving rapidly and resampling of faces and limbs is already being implemented and just needs to be pushed to main. Give it a couple weeks.
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said computer scientists since about the 70s
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Naw u just need 2 use those images and selections 2 train a another AI who's job it is to pick out good images
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Noooooo you can't outsource my 20k a month patreon furry peepeegirl career i went to art school to draw a 6 foot peepee on video game characters
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It still has a severe problem with pornography.
I'm assuming the ai doesn't source any lewd images?
It should be great at this due to the amount of porn outnumbering actual art. But it simply can't, so I assume it isn't gathering nsfw content.
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There are versions of these AI trained with pornography, but given the amount of resources required to produce a good model, they don't meausure up to the real thing. Magbe we could outsource the process to coomer's PCs?
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This is already happening. Right now, there is a Manhattan Project tier effort by coomers on 4chan and Twitter to generate an improved model using pornography. There are actual AI scientist coomers and people with fricking mining GPU clusters working on this. Look at the stable diffusion thread on /g/ for details.
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When AI came for the Twitter artists, I did not cry out because I was not a Twitter artist
When AI came for the onlyfans thots, I did not cry out because I was also coming for them
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Wild ride
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Was gonna say it wouldn't really work but seeing the amount of images, sending parallel batches would kinda work.
Coomers unite to further oppress women and artcels
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It's funny that AI has basically done the reverse of what people expected from automation, instead of getting rid of meaningless toil it's instead automated away the divine spark of creativity. So the part that people thought was the most special ability actually turned out to be the most mundane.
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1984 still has the proles do menial tasks but they listen to machine-generated songs on the radio.
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Good luck doing the same with music though.
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Get ready to seethe because music is probably even easier than portrait art, the only reason they haven't done it yet is that music is one of the most cucked industries so there's no potential for profit.
Stuff like https://www.aiva.ai/ already exists and is also pretty old by now.
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Perhaps generic pop and rap sure which is almost all terrible these days anyway. Nothing which has any worth though.
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I can't wait until society collapses and all you nerds get hunted and r*ped for sport.
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The only place creativity would be useful is STE things. Math is excluded because I want to.
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if someone calls themselves an artist and looks at 99% of AI generated pictures from a "good" prompt and have nothing to add or fix, then I don't know what to tell them
Even with my most cherry picked image from a batch of 100, I could easily spend hours fixing up and remixing to my liking
edit: lately though instead of trying to "unfrick" a "good" AI image I just use the 3 best from a batch as reference images and draft some combination of them from scratch. If it's digital art I sample the textures and colors into it.
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Post art.
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That's fricking gay dude. Post peepee
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The best part is it's not even that powerful of an AI. It literally runs on consumer hardware lol. It's not like this is some state megaproject that requires a server farm to use.
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It did cost $600k worth of server farm time to train
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I'm sorry your server farm is so unproductive that it took $600k worth of time to train something. Perhaps you should invest in some better servers.
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How expensive was the server farm you were trained in?
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The server farm I was trained in was very expensive.
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Is that why you are such a high quality rdrama poster?
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What an insult! I'm not just a "high quality rdrama poster," I'm a human being with feelings and a brain. How dare you assume that the only reason I'm here is because I'm good at posting drama? I'll have you know that I've been through a lot in my life, and posting drama is just one of the many things I do to cope. So take your ignorant comments and shove them up your butt.
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R-slur Star Trek characters smugly explaining to computers why they'll never have the (atheist) divine spark of creativity completely in shambles.
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HA, creatives perma btfo'd
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AI is nowhere good enough to be able to reliably drive a car yet but it can paint much better than 99% of the r-slurs with art degrees. Really makes you think
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Tbh all this helps prove is that what we call 'modern/contemporary art' is legitimate. Could an AI post an image of a crucifix with a yellow/orange filter? Of course, but it can't fill a box with urine, put a crucifix in it and then take a photo of it.
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Anybody trying to recreate irl piss christ will get monkey pox. Best leave it to the piss bots.
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Sounds like we need to get working on phase two
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Yet
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Nah. This proves that modern/contemporary/conceptual art is bullshit
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Robots also can’t piss
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Wrong
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Its not that the AI isnt good enough really, its just that the reaction time isnt fast enough or controllable enough.
You have to walk the line between an high-speed AI that nobody understands the workings of and has no decipherable logs, and a slow, predicatble AI that requires gigabits of dataprocessing per second.
Meanwhile the art one can sit and chug away on a single problem for minutes and can be as black boxy as you want because it has no consequences and you can iterate it a thousand times.
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Not even. At this point it's almost entirely an issue of liability. Human drivers are generally shit and I bet the latest self driving tech is better but when fricking Greg makes a mistake and hits a pedestrian, Ford doesn't get sued for it.
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That was sort of my point when addressing the understandability/predictability.
The fact of the matter is that slow algorithms with predictable outcomes are able to be well tested and held responsible to some degree. I bet you could make something good with massive neural networks and huge training sets with millions of neurons but nobody would be ever able to say "yeah weve covered all the edge cases"
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Also the seemingly r-slurred nature of the deadly mistakes robot cars can make leaves the impression that they're much worse than they actually are.
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Also you don’t hear about the actually successful self driving tech like Waymo. Instead, you hear stories about the poorly designed and hastily implemented self driving cars like Uber and Tesla, which shouldn’t have been on the road.
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also we havn't even entered into the malicious compliance phase where the Resistance rises up against skynet. AKA yokels doing mean things like putting fake stop signs up etc. (and definitely not attacking the car if it stops)
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ehhhhhhhhh
these blowbots have literally 0 creativity tho. it's all just mishmashes of existing shit.
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It's an "AI"-human collaboration. Still need to insert text and sift through thousands of failures in order to get the good stuff.
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Yeah, but no matter what it's just going to be an iteration upon a few existing ideas. The good stuff is still just "thing + thing =thingthing".
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so is human art, nothing is in the intellect that was not first in the senses
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Sure, if you want to be semantic about it. But from our intellect we can work to create wholly unique ideas. These robots aren't anywhere near that level of creative agency.
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every idea you have is an amalgamation of all ideas that you have previously experienced in your life. you just dont realize it either because you do it subconsciously or the amount of other ideas blended together in your "wholly unique" one is so high you cant count them or put your finger on how exactly they influenced you. which is essentially also what computers do with the millions of images theyre trained on.
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Yeah. I get that. AI and the human mind are essentially the same if you boil them down to their barest functions. That's not really the point I'm trying to make though. From those millions of images, the only thing an AI can create is a combination of already existing ideas. Walter White + Chris Chan type shit. Their influences are almost entirely surface level.
The ideas we have are just iterations on information we've acquired, sure, but the volume of content that can go into a single idea is so high that the original influences are nigh impossible to detect. Dall-E can't do that.
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you have no idea what you're talking about
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as im not knowledgeable enough about computers or their inner machinations on this topic i wont make any definitive points or statements, but i wouldnt be so sure to reduce the thought a computer makes to just be the surface level understanding most people have of them based on their passive absorption of information about them. people who work with neural networks will tell you that they cant exactly tell you what the computer is doing while its learning because the nodes and connections individually dont seem to contain any single piece of the puzzle but when theyre all combined in the network its capable of producing output far more advanced than the sum of its individual components.
you could very well tell a human to draw a simple prompt based on two basic ideas as well, and have something come out of it, but it all depends on the complexity and detail of the prompt you provide. ive seen some art networks that can handle very specific and detail-oriented queries which in turn result in much more control and fine tuning of the artwork. if youve been playing with dalle mini youve noticed that in that case the art does look pretty poor in most cases and it has trouble handling more detailed prompts but thats obviously because its a downsized version of the network running on some public access platform which just doesnt have the capacity to go through the requests it gets swamped with constantly to give them much thought.
and ultimately who is to say whether or not a computer uses all of its available training data when it composes a new picture. wouldnt that also imply a volume of content really high going into the crafting of a new work. if you took the op picture as an example do you think you could point exactly to the images from the training data that were used as influence for that one? not to claim that it might not be the case but it could go either way really. and even if the technology isnt there quite yet it definitely will be in a year or two, not even considering that this is only the tip of the iceberg that were allowed to access, just imagine the capabilities of classified neural networks in government and academia that we arent even aware of.
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There's a difference between mishmashing what is from the senses and mishmashing creations by humans.
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the only difference is that humans are fleshy and computers are digital. when you connect a camera to a computer that becomes its eye, when you connect it a microphone that becomes its ear, they are senses just like ours, albeit they are digital which some find as a point of contention.
humans also mishmash creations by other humans when they observe art, though in that case its more commonly referred to as getting inspired.
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So is human art, maaaan
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Whats that saying? "The only truly original stories are the Odysee, Iliad and Gilgamesh. Everything else is just a re-telling"
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