EFFORTPOST Ukrainian Kharkiv 2024 counter offensive cancelled

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1807839326337912875

Ukraine was using su27 bombing Volvchansk and planned to launch massive counteroffensive east of volvchansk. And they lost the last 3 days around 15 aircraft's

5-7 su27 (visually confirmed)

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1807839326337912875

Couple of mig 29 and su 25

https://twitter.com/innova_center/status/1808553613108596985

Some helicopters

https://twitter.com/amk_mapping_/status/1808712267271451041

But only su27 matters for this topic.

Since those su27 were using jdams on north Kharkiv direction. Losing those is big dead. It's also interesting that they were using a fighter as a bomber.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1720101474741039.webp

Reason why footages like this started suddenly appearing is that Russian got a new orlan drone that seems to have range of 600+ km more than F16 with internal fuel storage. Why I mention f16 ? It's because now without using external fuel storage f16 will be on Russian visual range so it won't be effective at bombing. Su27 internal fuel range is 6 times more than f16 and yet they still used su27 kinda close to the front line. I already mentioned in July 2023 that Russian were hard preparing for arrival of f16. Now Ukrainian f16 would be able to only drop at best 1-2 jdams doing low low missions. And who knows when Russian launch an 1000+ km Orlan drone. Problem of orlan + iskander combo is that Ukraine don't get much early warning when iskander launches compared to when Russian launches missiles from their jets.

And Ukraine planed to launch counterattacks on that direction for weeks but fab 3000 changed their plans

So Ukraine failed to get critical mass to launch a good offensive (they launched couple smaller one and even managed to regain some territory but again lost it) those loses of su27 basically now tells Ukraine has nothing to kick those 14k Russian

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1720101475642209.webp

And they gambled hard in that direction by pulling forces from toretsk (last og front line that didn't moved since 2014)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1720101475981477.webp

Peepee attack

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17201014767671957.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1720101477297702.webp

Need to combine those 2 to understand Russian location

So Kharkiv is Ukrainian peak r-slur moment of 2024

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1720101477965329.webp

Homos literally knew what Russian were planning, they knew Russian were trying to do :marseyoctopus2: by sending a small force to Kharkiv and making khohols think they can easily defeat them and pull forces from other directions 18 brigades vs 6 Russian and then Russian defeated 1/3 of those brigades and Ukraine pulled more brigades :marseyxd: and now they lost their offensive reserve brigades :marseythumbsup:

But they coped hard in that direction and given fantastic stories that local r-slurs believed:

Homo @Cobra_Commander come here don't be shy

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1720101478550249.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17201014787999427.webp

There was a story that Ukrainian supposedly encircled 400+ Russian soldiers in aggregate plant. At that time there was max 30 Russian soldiers at that plant, the fight in that location is small not many men from both sides yet Ukraine had to launch a cope story and excuse about letting Russian into that plant: NOOOOO WE DIDNT FRICK UP WE ENCIRCLED BAKHMUT

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17201014791856782.webp

https://media.giphy.com/media/CYU3D3bQnlLIk/giphy.webp

So that plant story is just your typical Ukrainian story where they positioning their frick up as a win and magical encirclement's.

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Getting ratios like this on rdrama is a badge of honor tbh, this site doesn't seethe as much over much else

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I don't think I've ever downvoted anyone tbh. If I did it was a misclick. I :marseyheart: you all even though you're all rslurred.

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:marseyheartlove#::marseyheartlove#::marseyheartlove#:

Me too!

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kharkov in 2 weeks

errr we meant vovchansk

we never wanted vovchansk anyways

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:soyjakanimeglasses:: "Russians will exterminate Ukrainians much slower than predicted."

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Russia can't even take a town 5 miles from the border.

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Because it never wanted to :soyjakanimeglasses:

The strategy was always to capture weaken the military destroy the equipment capture the flag move one pebble on the ground, and the operation has been very successful in that regard.

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"Russians never wanted to take Kyiv" is one of their favourite cope lines despite leaked documents and the entire invasion path supporting the narrative

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Because Ukrainians keep sending their poorly trained mobilized soldiers as a meat shield to slow them down.

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because ukrainians keep going there and stopping them those b-word butt losers! :hysterical:

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Stopping them

Not really. Slowing them down at best.

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Sounds like another Slav warring state that I know

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Be that as it may, it only seems to work for one side of this conflict.

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Hoholpiggies

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Your tears won't change the outcomes.

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Neither will the Russian military

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Listed pal spring counteroffensive was over a year ago, Ukraine was at its strongest back then, it captured 10 settlement back then and lost over 60 since then including 8 of 10 they captured during spring counteroffensive.

Your tears won't change the outcomes.

But it's useless using logic with homos like you.

Keep believing you are smart and I am sure Ukraine going to win

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your tears about russia being unable to conquer a tiny weak neighbor after years of fighting won't change anything :smoke:

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Why bring Finland into this?

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If you going to accuse me on something can you back it up ? Because creating stories about me only shows that you are coping like listen homo Ukraine received 70% of all nato artillery and look what's happening to an US shell factory:

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If you going to accuse me on something can you back it up ?

yes.

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Lying is bad

Leviticus 19:11

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Leviticus 19:11

"'You shall not steal; neither shall you deal falsely, nor lie to one another.

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wouldnt matter either way, it's not like taking half of a destroyed/mined Ukraine would make Russia less of a shithole or give them access to foreign banks/airllines again

there's no welcoming party after, just the same alcoholism and low birthrates

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russia will definitely end up getting what they want in the end. there's no other way for it to go because putin isn't gonna just back down, but they've been exposed as not shit and it's very very funny.

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idk if they 'win' (basically only the east up to the Dnipro river) then it will just further harden NATO against them and create a DMZ that will forever be unstable. Then they have to spend billions rebuilding the cities they destroyed and somehow repopulate them. While even Chinese banks are abandoning RU under pressure from losing access to SWIFT. It's mostly just a moral victory, not a tangible one.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-banks-flee-moscow-exchange-065843501.html

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>they have to spend billions rebuilding

Poorcel detected, Keynes showed how breaking windows makes the economy grow, so breaking dozens of cities and towns will only boost the russian economy.

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Russia might have thrown some cash into whatever areas they annexed if the war was over as quickly as planned. Now?

This embarassment has cost way too much in time, money, and materials (and Russian lives, but they don't care about those) for them to actually try and rebuild. No, at this point, this is all about Russia doubling down until Putin can walk away with a 'victory' that he can sell domestically. The new Russian parts will be left to rot and the Russian people won't waste two seconds thinking about what the whole point of this was.

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i don't think NATO can be further hardened against them at this point. it can only get softer and for that to happen putin would have to say :quote: my bad bro here's everything we took and some russian dollars to fix it up. we cool? :quote: and that'll never happen.

but i say this as someone who couldn't possibly care less about this and 90% of what i know about russia v ukraine 2 i've learned from rdrama. like this is the first i'm even hearing about the china bank thing. :go:

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:!#marseylaughpoundfist:

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:marseyindignant: there's no war, I have already won.

Glory to Russia! :marseysaluteussr:

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Is there some obscure human rights convention I don't know about where all countries agreed that building plane hangars is a war crime? That's the only way I can explain the fact that both sides keep their planes out in the open.

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building plane hangars is a war crime

Because we both know both sides are so reluctant to break global treaties and commit war crimes :marseysmug2:

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The official governments probably are. The soldiers on the ground, however, don't particularly care, since it's unlikely they will ever be found out and they are the ones risking their lives.

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official governments probably are

What an r-slur clueless zigger lmao

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:#marseysoycrytalking:

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Hangars ain't that effective. If missile hit an hangar then jet gets fricked. Thing is when long range missiles are launched early warning rings and pilots just fly away with the jets. That's why I mentioned orlan + iskander. US has no much info where are iskanders and for example iskander (not m) has speed of march 7,2 and atacms march 3. So it would take only 2 min for iskander to reach airfield 300km from it. In those 2 min pilots ain't going to do shit.

This will now limit Ukrainian using f16 west from Kiev and since f16 has small intern fuel storage and low flights consume more fuel (drag and shit) f16 won't be able to do successful bombing.

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They'll have time to leave for cruise missiles and drones. Iskander ballistic missile can travel 150km in minutes. Maybe as low as 2-3min, or 5min if it's fired from deep in RU. This is for multiple planes to taxi and take off. Assuming they are all fueled and pilots are ready.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17201193177715712.webp

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It's still not much time + they must guess where the Iskander is launched. Russia uses iskanders daily to strike immovable objects. So it's dangerous combo + shutting down orlan is not easy without visual confirmation, radars filtering software is designed to exclude relatively slow-flying and low-altitude objects.

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Weeb Union made a good video for why hangars are a good idea.

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If Ukraine starts building something on its airfields Russian sends cheap drones to wipe out engineering gear. Ukraine already tried to build bunkers for f16 north of khrivoi rog and Russian just destroyed everything.

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it is weird that they seem to be doing absolutely nothing to hide/cover anything

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its difficult to disperse aircraft that are needed operationally, they need runways and fueling and infrastructure.

I believe the Iskander hit while one jet was taxing and the others were probably just recently back before going to a rear base. Just good intelligence work by Russia's missile team.

Losing 4 then a helicopter the next day is a big deal regardless.

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The best bet would probably be decoy aircraft in the hope Russia targets them and some of the real ones survive

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at least put nets up or something! they were doing that in WW2 to hide stuff!

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hide from what? Thermal drones watching the planes land from rear bases and arriving back again from operations (which radar will already track from a distance)?

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the attempt to hide should at least be made :hmph:

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Also why not at least use grey canvas covers? :marseyconfused: Recon countering camo is cheap and a thing since WW2 at least. Tanks, arti in even this war seem to use it.

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This is one of only a few airports in range. It's not like they can hide operational aircraft from satellites and drones.

RU meanwhile keeps most of their jets out in the open even in rear bases based on satellite photos. idk about Ukraine's rear bases we dont get photos of damage after drone strikes 500km deep like in RU.

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>Reason why footages like this started suddenly appearing is that Russian got a new orlan drone that seems to have range of 600+ km more than F16 with internal fuel storage. Why I mention f16 ? It's because now without using external fuel storage f16 will be on Russian visual range so it won't be effective at bombing. Su27 internal fuel range is 6 times more than f16 and yet they still used su27 kinda close to the front line. I already mentioned in July 2023 that Russian were...

:#marseyschizowalltalking:

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>16d ago

:#marseyrentfree:

I'm glad to see your still seething.

When will Russia capture Vovchansk now? 2 weeks?

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When will Russia capture Vovchansk now? 2 weeks?

Neighbor I never mentioned when or if Russian going to capture that city. I just told that Ukraine baited that obvious trap.

16d ago

You were back then wrong and never admitted you were wrong and you are today wrong and trying pathetically shift using that 2 weeks cope.

I'm glad to see your still seething.

I am not the one who using emojis trying to hide emotions. I enjoy fricking you, it gives me pleasure and you pathetically want to believe in more fantasy like Ukrainian encircled… i mean thinking I am seething.

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I enjoy fricking you

You enjoy fricking men?

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You have something against it ?

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When it's done this ineptly, yes.

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Nobody is inept as you tho, how many times have you sneed about my factual Ukrainian post already ?

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No, I don't speak r-slur. Please rephrase.

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But you just proved right now you are an r-slur

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Idk I don't have my own r-slur containment chamber, sounds like I'll have to defer to your expertise :marseygigaretard:

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So that plant story is just your typical Ukrainian story where they positioning their frick up as a win

maybe they really are russian

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this is still going on? wrap it up already

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I dont comment much on slavshit. My opinion was that this was always a losing battle for ukraine just due to numbers (to come out even at the start you'd need every ukranian to have killed like 6 russians, 7 to have a number slightly above a 1 for 1 death toll). This was all completely needless and it was pure cope that russians were ever going to lose this. It pains me to see it as someone who visited and loved ukraine, I was constantly recommending it to friends as a vacation spot for its beautiful towns and kind people, but it was bullshit to pretend that they had a chance at victory without foreign troops boosting their numbers. Zelenski threw so many into the meatgrinder rather than take a political L up front and agree to a resolution, I hope he gets to suffer the same fate as those he sent to die.

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Ukringe has been trying to become Israel 2.0 for the last few years and it's been hilarious to watch them get owned and their gibs waste be exposed. Can't wait till they finally get bulldozed

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they'll magically gain air superiority any day now!!!!

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They will regroup in 2 weeks :marseysal:

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It's hard to understand Ukrainian tactics

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17201088305480573.webp

It for example makes no sense for Ukrainian to hold this (black green circle) territory since behind them is a river and they can't cross it with heavy tech + that area is low building area. It's just a stupid as they were holding Krinky an operation they called big victory during last winter to now fired and opened a case against the general that lead that operation for high loses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yurii_Sodol

The general that was fired

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The Niu York/Toretsk attack is the real drama imo. Russians are just walking in there without issue it seems like. Seems like every 1-2 months this year, the tempo gets kicked up notch.

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The garden snail is still moving like 10x faster than the front line

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