Multiple Su-27s at Myrhorod airport destroyed by Russian Iskander strikes. One of the Iskanders released cluster munitions. pic.twitter.com/x1UbacdCdU
— ayden (@squatsons) July 1, 2024
Ukraine was using su27 bombing Volvchansk and planned to launch massive counteroffensive east of volvchansk. And they lost the last 3 days around 15 aircraft's
5-7 su27 (visually confirmed)
https://x.com/squatsons/status/1807839326337912875
Couple of mig 29 and su 25
https://x.com/innova_center/status/1808553613108596985
Some helicopters
https://x.com/amk_mapping_/status/1808712267271451041
But only su27 matters for this topic.
Since those su27 were using jdams on north Kharkiv direction. Losing those is big dead. It's also interesting that they were using a fighter as a bomber.
Reason why footages like this started suddenly appearing is that Russian got a new orlan drone that seems to have range of 600+ km more than F16 with internal fuel storage. Why I mention f16 ? It's because now without using external fuel storage f16 will be on Russian visual range so it won't be effective at bombing. Su27 internal fuel range is 6 times more than f16 and yet they still used su27 kinda close to the front line. I already mentioned in July 2023 that Russian were hard preparing for arrival of f16. Now Ukrainian f16 would be able to only drop at best 1-2 jdams doing low low missions. And who knows when Russian launch an 1000+ km Orlan drone. Problem of orlan + iskander combo is that Ukraine don't get much early warning when iskander launches compared to when Russian launches missiles from their jets.
And Ukraine planed to launch counterattacks on that direction for weeks but fab 3000 changed their plans
So Ukraine failed to get critical mass to launch a good offensive (they launched couple smaller one and even managed to regain some territory but again lost it) those loses of su27 basically now tells Ukraine has nothing to kick those 14k Russian
And they gambled hard in that direction by pulling forces from toretsk (last og front line that didn't moved since 2014)
Peepee attack
Need to combine those 2 to understand Russian location
So Kharkiv is Ukrainian peak r-slur moment of 2024
Homos literally knew what Russian were planning, they knew Russian were trying to do 
by sending a small force to Kharkiv and making khohols think they can easily defeat them and pull forces from other directions 18 brigades vs 6 Russian and then Russian defeated 1/3 of those brigades and Ukraine pulled more brigades 
and now they lost their offensive reserve brigades 
But they coped hard in that direction and given fantastic stories that local r-slurs believed:
Homo @Cobra_Commander come here don't be shy
There was a story that Ukrainian supposedly encircled 400+ Russian soldiers in aggregate plant. At that time there was max 30 Russian soldiers at that plant, the fight in that location is small not many men from both sides yet Ukraine had to launch a cope story and excuse about letting Russian into that plant: NOOOOO WE DIDNT FRICK UP WE ENCIRCLED BAKHMUT
So that plant story is just your typical Ukrainian story where they positioning their frick up as a win and magical encirclement's.
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Is there some obscure human rights convention I don't know about where all countries agreed that building plane hangars is a war crime? That's the only way I can explain the fact that both sides keep their planes out in the open.
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Hangars ain't that effective. If missile hit an hangar then jet gets fricked. Thing is when long range missiles are launched early warning rings and pilots just fly away with the jets. That's why I mentioned orlan + iskander. US has no much info where are iskanders and for example iskander (not m) has speed of march 7,2 and atacms march 3. So it would take only 2 min for iskander to reach airfield 300km from it. In those 2 min pilots ain't going to do shit.
This will now limit Ukrainian using f16 west from Kiev and since f16 has small intern fuel storage and low flights consume more fuel (drag and shit) f16 won't be able to do successful bombing.
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Weeb Union made a good video for why hangars are a good idea.
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If Ukraine starts building something on its airfields Russian sends cheap drones to wipe out engineering gear. Ukraine already tried to build bunkers for f16 north of khrivoi rog and Russian just destroyed everything.
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They'll have time to leave for cruise missiles and drones. Iskander ballistic missile can travel 150km in minutes. Maybe as low as 2-3min, or 5min if it's fired from deep in RU. This is for multiple planes to taxi and take off. Assuming they are all fueled and pilots are ready.
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It's still not much time + they must guess where the Iskander is launched. Russia uses iskanders daily to strike immovable objects. So it's dangerous combo + shutting down orlan is not easy without visual confirmation, radars filtering software is designed to exclude relatively slow-flying and low-altitude objects.
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Because we both know both sides are so reluctant to break global treaties and commit war crimes
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The official governments probably are. The soldiers on the ground, however, don't particularly care, since it's unlikely they will ever be found out and they are the ones risking their lives.
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What an r-slur clueless zigger lmao
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it is weird that they seem to be doing absolutely nothing to hide/cover anything
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its difficult to disperse aircraft that are needed operationally, they need runways and fueling and infrastructure.
I believe the Iskander hit while one jet was taxing and the others were probably just recently back before going to a rear base. Just good intelligence work by Russia's missile team.
Losing 4 then a helicopter the next day is a big deal regardless.
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The best bet would probably be decoy aircraft in the hope Russia targets them and some of the real ones survive
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at least put nets up or something! they were doing that in WW2 to hide stuff!
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hide from what? Thermal drones watching the planes land from rear bases and arriving back again from operations (which radar will already track from a distance)?
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the attempt to hide should at least be made
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Also why not at least use grey canvas covers?
Recon countering camo is cheap and a thing since WW2 at least. Tanks, arti in even this war seem to use it.
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This is one of only a few airports in range. It's not like they can hide operational aircraft from satellites and drones.
RU meanwhile keeps most of their jets out in the open even in rear bases based on satellite photos. idk about Ukraine's rear bases we dont get photos of damage after drone strikes 500km deep like in RU.
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