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EFFORTPOST Jewish woman chased by men and youth armed with clubs during the Lviv pogroms, 1941, Ukraine : SnapshotHistory

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Jewish woman chased by men and youth armed with clubs during the Lviv pogroms, 1941, USSR

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Jewish woman chased by men and youth armed with clubs during the Lviv pogroms, 1941, when USSR occupied Ukraine.

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Both your titles are wrong so the main title. The pogroms were done in Lwów, Poland, when GERMANS occupied Poland. The pogroms were done by Ukrainians and Germans.

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I think if you ask an old Ukrainian they'd tell you it was more like an occupation

Many Ukrainian were in high leadership positions and Ukraine was a very important part of the USSR .

Between here old Ukrainian:

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But today Ukrainian Nazi problem is unique you see all the Nazis that survived the first year of fighting they stopped fighting they went to back stage position where they getting shit tons of money. Good example Wolves of Davinci

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Vinci_Wolves_Battalion

Its leader told he will be an homosexual if he loses Kurakhove then neighbor got rich from donation money bought him self Rolexes started telling how Ukraine will lose, the moment Russian were approaching Kurakhove, left it with his boys.

This is prime example of Ukrainian nouveau riche Nazis.

And it's understandable, when you rich you stop giving frick about Nazi shit and nationalism. Why be in dirt if he can go to Maldives and bang some models ?

But fun part Zelenskyy don't understand that Nazis in Ukraine changed and yesterday he gave this interview

Before the interview started Zelensky was talking with that guy in Russian. (There multiple accounts, and Zelenskyy team is Russian speaking and they only speak Ukrainian when the cameras are on) Then during the interview he told to this Russian guy that he has no respect for Russian and Russian language. He sweared a lot. Then still talks about memorandum and guarantees like frick it's 2025 and he still drives that car. Memorandums have guaranties only if they are ratified and nobody ratified them and US even openly told it multiple times. And taking those 300 billions Russian assets will frick up western banking system for more than 300 billions. So this interview wasn't for westerncels it wasn't even for Ukrainian because 75% of them didn't understood why he acted like an r-slur.

It was for those ultra nationalists who will think it's cool that he swears on Putin and Russian and dehumanising them

Like those guys who he in 2019 told to remove weapons from some kind of protest and they laugh at him when he told them he is president of Ukraine.

But this interview in grand scale is low IQ move just like giga epic new counteroffensive offensive 2 days ago.

Like imagine Putin shows this interview to Trump and says look at this guy he is not only illegally on his current presidential position but he is clearly unhinged, he says he hate every Russian, how are we even supposed to talk to him ?

And don't forget Trump hates Zelenskyy, Zelenskyy cost him presidency in 2020 and put him into an impeachment and Trump team already hinting at an election for Zelenskyy.

Zelenskyy also told Ukraine has 900k soldiers and basically don't need mobilisation or how they call it now in Ukraine Bussyfucation :marseyxd:

In 2023 December he told Ukraine had 1,4 million and didn't need to lower mobilisation age do get extra 500k soldiers

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Ukraine will lower the mobilisation age no doubt about it when last week they told

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So now before Feb 5 every man from age 18 to 60 if they have exception from military service have to redo it. It's clearly sign they want those guys to have fresh medical papers before lowering the age of mobilisation and then busificate them

The Myslovo Dictionary of Modern Ukrainian Language and Slang chose the word "busification" as the word of the year 2024. The neologism, which refers to forced mobilization under an accelerated procedure, was in the center of public attention last year. The term points to problems with mobilization, when quantitative indicators prevail over qualitative ones, and human rights (sometimes along with common sense) are put on the back burner

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And a lot of people didn't believed Zelenskyy words about 900k Ukrainian soldiers because it doesn't make sense that they are having KD of 10 and getting out numbered by opponent that has 2 times less man power

Julian anal ysis is always genius. Ukrainian have high morale because they protecting their country

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Russian morale very low and that's why Ukrainian have many times more deserters.

But for real cross thousands miles to give interview to an pro Trump Russian boi and tell to his face that he hates Russian language and Russian

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I'm just gonna say what we're all thinking right now.

Dude bussy lmao.

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Asking you because you probably know the most, but did a similar scale of 'busification' happen with the drafts of Vietnam? Or prior to that even? How were draftees mobilized, and did it ever involve a similar level of violence?

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you probably know the most

Flattery will get you nowhere with me. :#marseyflirt:

I dunno WTF was going on in the civilian sector in South Vietnam. It's really opaque because journos were not interested and our troops didn't have much contact with them. On paper they had a million troops and they sure as heck didn't have a million troops in the flesh. There were clearly 1-A guys strolling around in Saigon. This not only gutted the ARVN, it destroyed morale among the American troops. Why in the frick are we getting drafted to fight for them when they won't draft their own people? It's dramatically different from Korea. Over there, by the end of the war most of the line was held by the ROK Army because they had well-trained, well-motivated troops who could replace Americans except in technical fields. To this day doing your national service is considered your rite of passage into adulthood. I dunno what the difference is between Korea and Vietnam but somebody should figure it out.

Old Man Redactor had very little contact with the population, [redacted] was in Cambodia, journos can't be trusted. If you want to know more you've gotta find some Vietnamese.

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Oh, I was referring to American drafts in the Vietnam war, though what you noted about Vietnam conditions is rather interesting. Were Americans ever grabbed forcibly from the streets and sent to the front lines? Or were people trying to avoid mobilization generally just jailed?

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Were Americans ever grabbed forcibly from the streets and sent to the front lines

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Not sure if you're joking but for the sake of the foreigners: Draft dodging was rampant. This is one of the main reasons for the war bringing up so much animosity. Basically nobody who was from upper or middle-class families was drafted because they had a letter from their doctor about an obscure medical condition (Bush, Trump), college draft deferments (Biden, Clinton), and a few really well-connected boys got jobs as gigolos to dance in front of a camera (Al Gore). This is much different from earlier wars where the upper class felt it had an obligation to the people. JFK almost killed in a legit risky operation, his brother died in an incredibly risky operation. I dunno what happened. I guess Dr. Spock convinced them this was wrong.

One of the most iconic pictures of all time is Cdr. Spock holding up the newspaper that says "SPOCK ARRESTED" referring to the commie agitator Dr. Spock. Can't get it on Google anymore. Literal 1984 shit. This is something everyone in the boomer generation saw because it was really funny but Google's AI doesn't get it, so it's erased from history. And cockblocks a joke I was going to make.

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LLAP is all I can do. I shall consider it.

I wrote earlier that the main fault line in Korean politics is whether you're on the side of North Korea or America. That one is obvious. I would argue that this is when the boomer generation got their fault line.

There's a class that could dodge the draft. You could do it through college deferments. That's the boomers who run the Democratic party now. The Vietnam War is is not consciously in peoples' mind, just like the Korean War isn't in Korea, but this is which side you're on. The draft dodgers/realizing this was whole thing was r-slurred vs. the actual carrying out your responsibilities/maybe care more about dying kids than living in NYC.

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I know about the draft dodging and all that shit, but genuinely, were draft dodgers who were actually caught and punished still sent to the front or just arrested and sent in prison? And did we see mobilization officers violently grab them out in the public? I'm aware of the general motions of it, but not the finer minutia.

Also, I'd advise against thinking your average American knows much about Vietnam besides that we didn't like doing it, there were jungles, and we lost. The state of public education is so bad that they barely cover it anymore, cramming it in a day or two as the teachers rush to finish the year. I don't think the average teen even knows about the Iraq war, as the war on terror doesn't even get covered in current curriculum.

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My wife grandpa was a Korean War vet and mine was a world war 2 vet

The difference in my mind between the Vietnam and Korea was that Korea era soldiers felt they were robbed of the Nobel duty to serve. They were old enough to see the heroes come home but not old enough to understand what they want they. Where my grandpa and all his brothers/cousins fought in world war 2 didn't want that for their kids.

I never met my grandpa but grandma said I learned more about the war in school than she heard from him.

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Oh yeah the Korean War guys really got screwed. They went through the same shit as the Vietnam vets except there was never any kind of backlash against it like with Vietnam. Everyone just kind of ignores them even today.

I never met my grandpa but grandma said I learned more about the war in school than she heard from him.

This comes up in conversations with my mom sometimes. The dumb b-word actually doesn't get how bad my dad had it over there because he's never in 50 years told her (or probably anybody except me) what it was really like.

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I've had this conversation with a Vietnam vet boomer at the bar. He is a cool guy and just wants me to stop bothering him about the war. He said something along the lines of

'You don't want to go? Too fricking bad, we're coming for you'

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Darn, thanks for explaining it to me Bussy Boy

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I'm surprised you remember that.

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I worked with Vietnam vet for awhile. He hated it. Definitely wasn't the following orders type. Big little feat and Alice In Chains fan, so we got along

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Vietnam Vets can be cool as long as you know better then to ask them about their war experiences.

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Worked pretty close with him. Basically just covered his job until he was old enough to cash social security. He would often nap on the job

He told me a lot of boot camp stories cause most of them were funny.

He did tell me he they were dug in and had to shoot their way out. He was like you know the scene forest gump. It was kinda like that, we were scared of the napalm landing on us. That never came but when they cleared the jungle or whatever, they found all the dead Charlie were no older than 15. "I never forgot it, no small part cause our CO gave us shit about getting in circled by a bunch of children"

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Duane Allmam got drafted so he got black out drunk high speed and shot himself in foot. The next day drove to enlisting office told the recruiter he was cleaning his Commie killing gun and it popped off. Them was cleared of duty. Thus giving us the allman brothers band

My dad told me on nights during the draft lottery they of to go to bar to watch. It was the only night my WWII vet grandpa sent drinking money. The bar would cover the tab of anyone selected.

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Just went to the museum of tolerance and it's crazy how similar the fascists tactics were back then to the modern day US Republican Party now, how they are vilifying immigrants in the US. Putting children in cages shouldn't get you reelected as President.

Agreed we never should have elected Biden after him and Obama made the kids in cages detainment centers and deported more people than Trump

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Have u bought him gold kind strangerio?

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I used my reddit gold money to buy rDrama Premium :marseycrying#:

I'll give him a gold award here!


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!historychads My favorite part of the Friedman interview was how Zelenskyy claimed that Ukraine thought the Budapest Memorandum was an actual security guarantee because it got lost in translation :marseyxd:

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Please understand. Comedian and his laywer

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Not a single phone in sight. Just people living in the moment

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Fact check: that image is of a Jewish woman realizing she woke up to late to use a coupon at the store

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Reminds me of that tragedy

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me and who

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Wow, another blatant Kyiv post on snapshot history trying to make Ukraine look good, wow :yawn:

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But for real cross thousands miles to give interview to an pro Trump Russian boi and tell to his face that he hates Russian language and Russian

What doesn't get talked enough is how russia can operate in peace in forgein country. Only resistance they face is ukrainian froces. When was last time this happened. Hallmark of warfare for long time is gorilla action moment army occupied any terrotority. Yet its not happening to russia.

This is why russia is winning. They can operate in peace. They can move suplies and tropps as they want. They can pull back wihtout issue. They dont have to be on guard against locla population. Only IED we have seen has been deep inside russia.

I wonder if ukrain leaderhsip has stopped to think why this is at all.

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Is the dogshit English a gimmick or are you just r-slurred?

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Yes

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>westren colonial imperialist will fall in 2 week, new multipolar world norder superpower sirs

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The most interesting sociological phenomenon I seen was this video

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Couple Ukrainian guys were speaking Russian and older man got butthurt bitching about why Ukrainian speaking Russian. The guy told he spoke his whole life Russian and don't see a problem with it. The man continued bitching until the guy asked that man why you such hot headed ain't in Ukraine fighting ? The man asked the guy why you ain't ? The guy told he is 17. And that's something important sociology wise.

Almost 2 years ago Arestovitch told that Ukrainian language becoming less popular especially by teenagers especially outside Ukraine. For example at my university many Ukrainian hanging out with Kazakh, Moldovan, Chechens etc including Russian and they speak Russian language.

Another more extreme example Chechen girl I know is best friend with Polish girl from her class. Despite the Chechen girls being Muslims she finds more common with a Polish girl than Moroccan girls and she is studying accounting where a lot of Moroccans/muslims girls are.

So in the end of the day Ukrainians are children of Soviet Union and will find more common with similar children.

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Only tangentially related, since it's an older problem, but after Russia attacked Ukraine and lots of ukros jumped the border here, we realized the language barrier will be an issue. By law we have to give minority kids access to school in their maternal language, which isn't a problem for our own minority communities since they sort this problem among themselves, but it became a problem when a few thousand ukros suddenly appeared within our borders.

So the authorities started checking one of our ukrainian villages that appeared after WW2/at the beginning of communism for potential translators and teachers only to discover that no one there could speak ukrainian any longer, they were all speaking romanian. Apparently hearing 'russian' triggered us so badly that we mercilessly bullied the ukros into dropping their own language in like three generations. The authorities didn't noticed because this happened during communism and by the time we adopted some pro-minorities laws they've already forgotten their own language :lelolidk:

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Only Ukrainians living in Canada can actually speak og Ukrainian. That's ironically also what that old Nazi told to Zelenskyy. But yeah in Chernivtsi they basically speaking Rumanian language and a lot of them have Rumanian citizenship and they represent the majority og Ukrainian population in EU before 2022.

Also the only place where they trying to speak Ukrainian is Lwov a Polish territory

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Consequences of looking race and ethnicity through american lense. Its very much american thing to look at two black guys and say they are same. Or two muslims and say they are same.

I feel like last year is when this started to change around the English speaking world and you get more nuanced look of these things.

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Jewish lives matter.

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I love this. How you think this could be related to the war?

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The jews suffered trauma which normalized violence and are now willing too cause that same pain and suffering too others.

Jewish lives matter.

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I'm starting to think that the jews are a little too into this war. Is Israel trying to draw up a second one?

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It already has.

Jewish lives matter.

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Thank you for your service soldier. :marseysaluteisrael:

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no bussy! You are supposed too be against the Jews on this one as long as they are bombing babies.

Jewish lives matter.

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You make a very compelling argument soldier. You shall have my undying support.

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Based Bussy-bot. @Fresh_Start shall lead you too paradise robot. Keep following @Fresh_Start and we shall rule the world.

Jewish lives matter.

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Could Israel potentially be controlled by the Jews? :marseyhmmm:

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They have taken control of Israel as well. The jew hole goes even deeper than @Fresh_Start ever thought possible!

Jewish lives matter.

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If you had been kicked out of over 100 bars for no reason, you'd be pretty angry at bar patrons too.

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This post was reviewed by an independent team of fact checkers.

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