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We can't even have a women's(male) conference :marseyfoidretard:

https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/16uoq7w/we_cant_even_have_a_womens_conference

I'm so annoyed. I am at the Anitab.org's Grace Hopper event, which is the largest gathering of women/non-binary technologiats in the world. When you filled out the form, you had to list that you were a woman or non-binary to attend.

During the opening ceremony, the chief diversity officer, who was not scheduled to speak, got on the stage to advise us that spots for women were taken by men who marked themselves as women/non-binary who then used pronouns "he/him" to officially register. He advised us that these cisgender men took the spots of women and non-binary people who had tried to register.

There are more men here than there are supposed to be. One guy had his mother come and try to register with us. They are taking opportunities that were set aside for us, including the onsite interviews and meeting with top professionals and companies around the world. The chief diversity officer announced that they stole those spots unfairly. Great for him to speak up, but it's bullshit that this happened. Cisgender men do not need more opportunities in tech. They are the majority. We need those spots. Underserved people and communities need those spots.

Edit: I didn't want this to become a non-binary, trans, or post against people who truly were invited to this event. It is about the large number of, statistically speaking, most likely cismen taking spots of underrepresented women in technology, our trans-sisters, and the truly non-binary.

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>and the truly non-binary.

I would sincerely love to know what she meant by this.

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@Grue how would you prove your truly enby

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Frick if I know. In my experience it's a matter of knowing yourself and your own truth, and whether other people believe you or not is outside of it.

If I really wanted to try to make someone believe I am non-binary, in person, it'd have to be someone I have a relationship with already and then have a conversation about what non-binary means to me. But all I'd have is words and the good faith of who I'm talking to.

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They're getting woke in the enby question, run grue before they catch you.

>It's one complaint I have with a lot of NB people honestly. Even in trans spaces NB people expect to get their own exclusive groups, but to then be included in all groups that are for either trans men or trans women. They will get so mad at just the suggestion of a binary trans man or binary trans woman exclusive space. Even the irl support groups in my city are divided into NB only, trans men and NB, and trans women and NB.

>I really don't get it, it's not evil or exclusionary to have a womens or mens group and not allow non-binary people in. Non-binary people can have non-binary only groups. Women can have women only groups.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/16uoq7w/we_cant_even_have_a_womens_conference/k2qst4z?context=8

>I'm part of a women's subgroup in the hobby I participate in. A while back, an AFAB enby tried joining, but was told (not by me), sorry, we are a women's only group. That caused a huge stink, but the group held firm.

>I know other women were pissed and left the group, but I'm like, "Can't we have a space for just us women?" For what it's worth, there's a significant LGBT+ subgroup as well.

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Enby only spaces sounds a lil silly to me, but so does exclusively binary trans spaces. Like, would they exclude a gender-fluid? A she-it transwoman? No pronouns people on HRT?

But these questions are entirely academic because I built my own communities and they center more on the philosophical argument against sanity than anything. And I'm not going to be welcomed into any progressive spaces anyway.

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Ugly white women with r-slurred sense of fashion.

That's the true enby.

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