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https://slate.com/human-interest/2024/02/abigail-shrier-bad-therapy-book-unfortunately-liberal-parenting-can-be-highly-mockable.html

At a California conference that Shrier attends, the facilitator encourages participants to share emotions like anxiety and fear with students before math class. “I began to wonder whether this wasn't some sort of ploy by the Chinese Communist Party to obliterate American mathematical competence,” Shrier writes.

!chuds This is what happens when we let :marseywomanmoment2: :marseyfreud: run schools and HR departments. Everything is medically pathologized and the problems only grow.

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This phone call was a turning point for me as a parent. It was the first time, ever, that I listened to a medical professional giving me instructions for the benefit of my child and thought, That sounds crazy. I have a natural respect for authority, and I love doctors

!foidmoment

Imagine having anything but a natural dislike and mistrust of all forms of authority

Critics of SEL, like Shrier, see it as yet another way we are teaching our children to overfocus on their emotions, promoting helplessness instead of resilience. Shrier reports on a Salt Lake City fifth grade classroom where the teacher's morning prompt, “What is something that is making you really sad right now?,” led to a sort of group breakdown, with kids crying about their parents' divorces. A teacher explains how she openly discusses with her students the pain of growing up with a drug-addicted mother, in order to model emotional vulnerability. At a California conference that Shrier attends, the facilitator encourages participants to share emotions like anxiety and fear with students before math class. “I began to wonder whether this wasn't some sort of ploy by the Chinese Communist Party to obliterate American mathematical competence,” Shrier writes.

!nooticers this lot realizes shit like this just nukes people respect for them right? I remember being a wee little boy of 11 and disregarding the foid teachers because I was clearly much more capable then them when they did shit (no where half as bad) like this

The problem is how Shrier generalizes, spinning her interviews into an attack on the very idea of teaching kids emotional literacy. She has talked to many parents and educators, sure, but that cannot be scaled to the population level. While it's clear SEL has gone off in the rails in some classrooms, it can also have a lot of benefits, especially for boys, who often suffer in a culture that tells them the only way they can express emotion is through anger.

!fellas I hate this shit so much. I was told I could express myself in all sorts of way, I choose anger because I was angry and it's what I wanted to express.

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promoting helplessness instead of resilience

This is also the main topic of the book "Coddling of the American mind" whose original essay was endorsed by my favorite president Barack Obama

https://media.giphy.com/media/oZw2gLIoDHjO0/giphy.webp

!nonchuds required reading

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

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Haidt is bae

His new book is kino, too

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Which book bb?

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The anxious generation

He discusses how social media companies and helicopter parenting are the likely causes of the zoomer mental health collapse; it follows up on "the coddling of the american mind" with newer research

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Ty bb lll give it a read. I have his righteous mind next on my reading list

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Frick Obama. He's all about promoting helplessness. From promoting racial grievance politics and gibs from the government to learning from Jeremiah Wright

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Wrong chud. Racial grievance politics were at an all time high under Trump.

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I remember being a wee little boy of 11 and disregarding the foid teachers because I was clearly much more capable then them

Least delusional chudlet :marseyrofl:

@14ARYANPRIDE88-HH love sucking peepee

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I could out lift them

Sorry !biofoids squats don't count only bench

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:marseymeds#: Sad because a bad thing happened? Uncertain about your future? Time for some lobotomy pills to make everything better.

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I'm extremely surprised that slate of all places published an article about an author best known for writing a truth nuke about FTM :marseytrain2:s and didn't condemn her whenever possible. In fact, the only ways they criticized her were for being too harsh on SEL, as well as saying "I felt a little discomfort when Shrier and I agreed, given that her politics definitely lean redder than mine" rather than "she's a fascist-adjacent TERF misinformation grifter".

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The optimist in me says that the problem has spiraled so far out of control that even libs are more receptive to questioning why.

I won't make everyone listen to :marseykermit: (I'm usually not a fan) but he did a 2 hour interview with her about the book when it released and I listened since my wife and I are about to start having kids. Another contributing factor that doesn't get a lot of spin is that kids have fewer siblings and fewer friends than ever, so their socialization is coming almost exclusively from a therapeutic school system/parenting model and social media reifies all the pathologizing rather than encouraging resiliency.

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Who are you referring to with :marseykermit:?

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A great philosopher-psychologist. See this for some insights he can provide

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Idk but I think she had a long interview on joerogan

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And notice women never offer problem solving or solutions. It's just constant analysis of their own feelings and problems.

It's what happened when a field of fixers like soren kirkegaard or Jung (mock me all you want, if you want psychological therapy there the only effective ones imo)

All my female friends of friends in therapy with female therapists never make progress and only get worse.

Women are on more SSRIs than ever in history. Turning them into nihilistic drones.

When it comes to kids they need direction and control, not just a constant spilling of unregulated emotions. Something I try to teach my three year old girl.

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What is :soren: kirkengard therapy?

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Soren hates Kierkegaard, which is ironic because I hate Soren

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:marseyagreefast:

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Understanding your human condition in the face of the absurd.

Anxiety is a tool to recognize what you need from your inner self, and not just a state of being where you quiver and take drugs for to numb it.

Faith is a passionate means to interact with the world in a healthy way.

The jist from my phone posting

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Interdasting

Where did u learn this bb?

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Their books but there is an YT channel for the lazy

https://youtube.com/@academyofideas/videos

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Foid desire to micromanage everything

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Is her new book any good?

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If BPD is not real, how do you explain other fake diagnoses like multiple personality disorder? !nonchuds

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:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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Go sleep buddy

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I have work in an hour. You lazy bastard.

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:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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Bro works the morning shift at McD :marseygossipshock:

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Wrong. But I am not telling you what company I work for.

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:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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five guy :#marseybruh: is he actually five guys or is he uh :#derpdumb: !r-slurs wichc uh wate witch wun iz the five gy wich one is the five gye agian :#neowojakbrainlet:

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5 guys used to hire distractingly good looking men. But if hes working there standards have slipped i guess

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5 guys used to hire distractingly good looking men

like soren? :#soren: :#!horny:

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Burger King :marseygossiplaugh:

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:marseyyayy#y:

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I support BPD (read: Bad Person Disease) diagnoses with a prescribed treatment of :marseymaid:

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Which BPD?

Bipolar Disorder

or

Borderline Personality Disorder?

all women and trans women have both all the time

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Which proves trans women are women all the darn time

!nonchuds

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I think BPD is normally shorthand for borderline. Because saying borderline personality disorder outloud makes u be realize what a non issue is.

Imagine saying u have a borderline kidney disorder. Boozers in shambles :marseydrunk:

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Smart!

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:#marseyhesright:

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