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>All of that could be deterministic

The part you choose to follow would inherently be determinstic then, so you wouldnt be controlling anything, just getting the impression you are because it is an illusion.

One part of your brain was informed one way as a result of everything leading up to now, one part of your brain was informed another way as a results of everything leading up to now, whichever wins out is because it is the stronger part as a result of everything leading up to now. The feeling of choice is simply how your conciousness perceives this series of events, but the result was never going to be different.

This delusion is part of what allows us to reach higher plains of thinking than the rest of the animal kingdom, but it is a delusion nonetheless

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Self control is the ability to convince yourself to do things you do not want to do because they'll benefit you. It is not the ability to make non deterministic choices.

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convince yourself

The exact illusion im talking about. Youre implying there is a real choice being made here, but there isnt. 'Doing things you dont want to do' is impossible. You simply wanted to do them and the illusion of "convincing yourself" is just your subconcious mind getting your concious mind to shut the frick up for 2 seconds so you can actually do it

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is just your subconcious mind getting your concious mind to shut the frick up for 2 seconds so you can actually do it

Lol how can it do that when it lacks free will?

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And im saying thats not something people just choose to do, its takes outside influence. Otherwise theyd already be doing it.

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How can there be outside influence in a deterministic universe? It was already going to happen. Be consistent.

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That doesnt contradict me lol, its up to fate, which is exactly why im saying itll never happen for some people no matter how many times people say "they just need to do it!"

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Jesus Christ you're r-slurred. Also determenism is a complete joke thanks to quantum theory. It's been deboonked you jebrony.

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