Imagine if we could track the ideal male body type for each decade the last 100 years. If everyone knew men were expected to have "boxer body" in the 80's, a "meth chic" look in the 90's, a "hunky stud" body in the 2000's and now a "gymnast body". If women talked about men's "hip to shoulder ratio".
The "dad bod" fad was concurrent w the "curvy" fad for women. This time, women lied to themselves about men's preferences. Men took "curvy" physique to mean a body w some additional muscle & fat in places like hips, butt, thighs. But women interpreted "curvy" as "chubby"
Tldr - Women's actual preferences are far different than what they say they want. Focus on the gains, then you get the girls or the gun !fitness!incels
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Your average gymcel in a bulking phase would be considered "dad bod." Obv an extreme example but some women thought an out-of-season Mr. Olympia had a "dad bod."
What kind of danger do you mean? I understand the overlap between incels and gym bros, but I don't see how gym bros would be threatening unless they took gear
The gymbro is narcissistically devoted to his own form. That focus on the self at the expense of others is the first step into the alt-right pipeline. These men gladly fight to take away our rights because they are lose the ability to feel empathy. From there, escalating into domestic violence is inevitable
The gymbro is narcissistically devoted to his own form
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That focus on the self at the expense of others is the first step into the alt-right pipeline
How does dedication to fitness come at the expense of others? What makes achieving a certain fitness standard different than any other type of self-improvement?
These men gladly fight to take away our rights because they are lose the ability to feel empathy. From there, escalating into domestic violence is inevitable
I don't see how any of this is related. Extreme dedication to fitness leads someone to lose empathy? People can be goal-oriented and still feel for others. Also, I disagree that a loss of empathy means that someone wishes to inflict pain on others. More likely than not, it would lead someone to be apathetic about others, but that wouldn't lead to a desire to restrict rights or beat someone
The narcissism and lack of empathy make sense, but the end result you foresee seems very extreme. Then again, I'm not very intelligent and I'm also a gymcel so my assessment is biased
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How does dedication to fitness come at the expense of others?
I can only speak for myself but working out hard 5-6 times a week absolutely kills the tiny amount of empathy I had.
I disagree that a loss of empathy means that someone wishes to inflict pain on others
I don't want to inflict pain but I do think bad things should happen to people who irritate me in the moment they irritate me. I don't have violent thoughts but I notice super distinct changes in what I think and how I react in the last couple months since getting serious about getting back in shape and starting to lift again
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The link between the gym and the alt right has been clearly established. Maybe take the time to educate yourself instead of mainsplaining our lived experience to us.
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I hope for so much more for you, Jimmy. I pray you experience the joy of communion in the form of family and community and parish life, and most of all I pray you experience the joy of the beatific vision someday. Staying skinny might help with the finding a chad to settle down with part though, I'll admit.
I don't think free will being an illusion has any bearing on anything. Whether things are deterministic or not our ability to exercise self control determines the outcome.
I think you fail to understand the concept. You still get to make all of your decisions in a deterministic universe, it's just that with sufficient knowledge those decisions can be predicted. They're still the thing you wanted.
Free will being an illusion means self control is an illusion meaning that the "just have self-control/discipline" is not actually just a choice you can wake up and make one day without outside factors helping you reach that conclusion, so statistically there will always be people with this problem and its part of the human condition
Why would controlling yourself require free will? I have a strong urge from one part of my brain to eat cake all day and never clean. Other parts of my brain practice discipline and use self talk to convince myself to act right. I regularly talk myself into running, lifting, eating healthy etc.
All of that could be deterministic, but it still happens.
The part you choose to follow would inherently be determinstic then, so you wouldnt be controlling anything, just getting the impression you are because it is an illusion.
One part of your brain was informed one way as a result of everything leading up to now, one part of your brain was informed another way as a results of everything leading up to now, whichever wins out is because it is the stronger part as a result of everything leading up to now. The feeling of choice is simply how your conciousness perceives this series of events, but the result was never going to be different.
This delusion is part of what allows us to reach higher plains of thinking than the rest of the animal kingdom, but it is a delusion nonetheless
>In an attempt to naturalize the pressures women face, the author talks about how body trends are nothing new: from 1920's to 2020's we have switched back and forth between body trends. Funny how women's ideal body standards are so strict that they receive a name each and nothing remotely similar happens to men.
>Imagine if we could track the ideal male body type for each decade the last 100 years. If everyone knew men were expected to have "boxer body" in the 80's, a "meth chic" look in the 90's, a "hunky stud" body in the 2000's and now a "gymnast body". If women talked about men's "hip to shoulder ratio".
Straight men don't care about all these shifting fashions, though. For us the type of female body that is attractive has been constant for a very long time. All these named female ideal body standards are just bullshit inflicted on women by the fashion and pop culture industries, which are fields that only a small fraction of all men work in. The average man has never heard of any of the various female fashion trends and would find them boring if he did.
Worse than out of shape. If you have a belly protruding further than anything else on your front side, you are metabolically compromised and flirting with diabetes which by the way kills people
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You know for as often as women talk about how we could crush their skulls with our bare hands, they sure seem to forget sometimes that we could crush their skulls with our bare hands.
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Except the only time it happened (((they))) were trying to make "dad bods" desirable.
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That's bc in typical fashion, women were dishonest about what they really wanted. Women considered "dad bod" to be athletic but not shredded. Your average gymcel in a bulking phase would be considered "dad bod." Obv an extreme example but some women thought an out-of-season Mr. Olympia had a "dad bod."
The "dad bod" fad was concurrent w the "curvy" fad for women. This time, women lied to themselves about men's preferences. Men took "curvy" physique to mean a body w some additional muscle & fat in places like hips, butt, thighs. But women interpreted "curvy" as "chubby"
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or the gun
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Dad bod was just poorly coded "I want a rich frat guy"
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its just an older male with a body they dont find distasteful
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Most women would consider my physique a "dad bod" when I posted back in the rDrama fitness post
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Link? Or just post your physique here
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https://rdrama.net/post/191861/rdrama-fitness-event-body-posting-event
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Holy shit dude
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There's a horrifying lack of body shaming in that thread
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Who ever said you have a dad bod should kill themself
Also nice gains 💪
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Do you actually like those rogue plate loadable dumbbells? I wanted some for a while but I'm glad I got iron masters
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Really only for back stuff, they're so wide that I find them annoying for anything else.
I wouldn't recommend them
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They look really cool though.
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Just your average dad taking TRT
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dad bods are always desireable to women who have dads
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Isn't this just reality?
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noooo you have to be fat-positive
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Gym bros are incel adjacent. It's a major red flag, and I always recommend against putting yourself in danger by getting with these types.
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What kind of danger do you mean? I understand the overlap between incels and gym bros, but I don't see how gym bros would be threatening unless they took gear
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The gymbro is narcissistically devoted to his own form. That focus on the self at the expense of others is the first step into the alt-right pipeline. These men gladly fight to take away our rights because they are lose the ability to feel empathy. From there, escalating into domestic violence is inevitable
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I'm with you
How does dedication to fitness come at the expense of others? What makes achieving a certain fitness standard different than any other type of self-improvement?
I don't see how any of this is related. Extreme dedication to fitness leads someone to lose empathy? People can be goal-oriented and still feel for others. Also, I disagree that a loss of empathy means that someone wishes to inflict pain on others. More likely than not, it would lead someone to be apathetic about others, but that wouldn't lead to a desire to restrict rights or beat someone
The narcissism and lack of empathy make sense, but the end result you foresee seems very extreme. Then again, I'm not very intelligent and I'm also a gymcel so my assessment is biased
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I can only speak for myself but working out hard 5-6 times a week absolutely kills the tiny amount of empathy I had.
I don't want to inflict pain but I do think bad things should happen to people who irritate me in the moment they irritate me. I don't have violent thoughts but I notice super distinct changes in what I think and how I react in the last couple months since getting serious about getting back in shape and starting to lift again
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Sorry for caring about safety. This kind of crap is why we choose the bear.
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The link between the gym and the alt right has been clearly established. Maybe take the time to educate yourself instead of mainsplaining our lived experience to us.
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!fellas why are femcels like this smh
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It's "heroin chic" not meth chic, you uncultured swine.

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Move this to /h/proana immediately
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#goals
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I hope for so much more for you, Jimmy. I pray you experience the joy of communion in the form of family and community and parish life, and most of all I pray you experience the joy of the beatific vision someday.
Staying skinny might help with the finding a chad to settle down with part though, I'll admit.
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Skinny isn't back for women. It always was in.
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It was out, among women who are willing to pay thousands of dollars a year to not eat less food but rather inject poison into themselves weekly
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Has she been living under a rock?
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I wonder who gives them those names 🤔
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Yes and that rocks name is foid-vision
Uggos arent men silly
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Fat people are hilarious, just eat a bit less and exercise a little and 10/10 times they would be healthier.
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In capitalist countries this is true for nearly every person in nearly every aspect of their life.
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Too bad free will is an illusion so most are destined to miss out anyways
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I don't think free will being an illusion has any bearing on anything. Whether things are deterministic or not our ability to exercise self control determines the outcome.
I think you fail to understand the concept. You still get to make all of your decisions in a deterministic universe, it's just that with sufficient knowledge those decisions can be predicted. They're still the thing you wanted.
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Free will being an illusion means self control is an illusion meaning that the "just have self-control/discipline" is not actually just a choice you can wake up and make one day without outside factors helping you reach that conclusion, so statistically there will always be people with this problem and its part of the human condition
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Absolutely dog shit r-slurred take. You don't even understand the basics of the argument we are having. Jesus Christ go talk to dumber people.
Chatgpt is like 90 iq and even it understands the concept. Jfc id rope.
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How can you control yourself without free will? Fricking dumbass theyre synonyms
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Why would controlling yourself require free will? I have a strong urge from one part of my brain to eat cake all day and never clean. Other parts of my brain practice discipline and use self talk to convince myself to act right. I regularly talk myself into running, lifting, eating healthy etc.
All of that could be deterministic, but it still happens.
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The part you choose to follow would inherently be determinstic then, so you wouldnt be controlling anything, just getting the impression you are because it is an illusion.
One part of your brain was informed one way as a result of everything leading up to now, one part of your brain was informed another way as a results of everything leading up to now, whichever wins out is because it is the stronger part as a result of everything leading up to now. The feeling of choice is simply how your conciousness perceives this series of events, but the result was never going to be different.
This delusion is part of what allows us to reach higher plains of thinking than the rest of the animal kingdom, but it is a delusion nonetheless
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There's only two body types, hot and lardbarrel
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Straight men don't care about all these shifting fashions, though. For us the type of female body that is attractive has been constant for a very long time. All these named female ideal body standards are just bullshit inflicted on women by the fashion and pop culture industries, which are fields that only a small fraction of all men work in. The average man has never heard of any of the various female fashion trends and would find them boring if he did.
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If youre not jacked you're out of shape. Women
dont undestand because they dont go to the gym to get strong, they go to post about it on instagram.
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Worse than out of shape. If you have a belly protruding further than anything else on your front side, you are metabolically compromised and flirting with diabetes which by the way kills people
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The only acceptable body types are hippo, whale, blimp, and redditor.
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The matriarchy caused the explosion in libertarianism by justifying adult women being fat.
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You know for as often as women talk about how we could crush their skulls with our bare hands, they sure seem to forget sometimes that we could crush their skulls with our bare hands.
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