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Yes to extremists being dangerous friends. This goes for religious extremists also.

Wait, are hardcore feminists extremists?

Yes. :marseyradfem:

I guess we wouldn't call abolitionists "extremists" so feminists must not be either.

Western white women are as oppressed as slaves. :marseyfoidretard:

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Some of the abolitionists were definitely extremeists

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Who's that? He's really tall. Trans lives matter

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John Brown

He helped Kansas kill some slavers from Missouri :marseyflagksthumbsup:

Then there were some leftover guns from the :marseyflagmissourigenocide: fundraiser, so he snuck onto slave plantations and gave the slaves guns so they could kill yt :marseythumbsup2: and that was pretty funny and abolitionpilled and everyone clapped.

But after doing that a couple times, he ran out of guns (the slaves mostly didn't give them back) so he decided to steal a bunch of guns from a US Army weapons depot.

His other abolitionist buddies were all "ngl John Brown, that's pretty r-slurred, don't matter how tall you are, you're just gonna get yourself killed, babe:marseynails:"

and John Brown was all "nah, when they hear about how badass I am, all the slaves will rush over the hills and I'll throw them some guns and we'll fight our way out, it'll be sick as heck :marseywindmill:"

and his abolitionist buddies were all :marseysurejan:

And then he went and broke into a US Army Weapons Depot to steal rifles from the US government and got himself killed, and the perfidious south seceded from the union because they were scared of the ferocity of our northern crackheads.

:marseysaluteconfederacygenocide:

And that's the story of how the Civil War began :marseythumbsup2:

!burgers !historychads God Bless us all.

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His plan was kinda stupid. Harpers Ferry was impossible to hold. Even during war. It switched hands pretty much every time army showed up. Only way you could hold it was by fortified hill next to it.

Going to Harpers Ferry and staying there was death sentence.

John brown was great commander. So him making such stupid plan. Is odd. And he even let train full of people to leave there. Hastening response. If he expected slaves to rise up. Thats not how you do it. He could have taken the horses. Ride through south. Burning any plantation he saw. Just pillage through south. That is what Garibaldi would have done. And he was in news all the time back then.

Question is. Did he really make up worst plan one could have had. Short of storming of D.C. or did he just want to die as martyr or force issue of slavery to headlines. Hoping for political solution to be pushed through. Becouse what writes just before he gets hangged

I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood. I had... vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.

Basically saying he wanted to force issue toward political solution. But now he only sees violent solution. War

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>John brown was great commander

The only fight he won was by attacking people in their sleep. He got his butt kicked in half the conflicts he was part of.

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Battle of Osawatomie? Outnumbered 7 to 1. Compleatly one sided casualties and brown and his men get away.

Battle of Black Jack? Total brown victory.

He was great gorilla commander and had firm grasp of modern warfare. He was ahead of whole lot of generals in civil war.

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Lolol he attacked people in the night at blackjack, and got his butt completely handed to him osawatomie and ran like a b-word. He didn't even manage to kill a single person who was awake at either fight.

Are you some sort of Lawrence strag?

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night at blackjack

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He didn't even manage to kill a single person who was awake at either fight

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Im not even burger. No idea who is Lawrence.

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did he just want to die as martyr

You see this is in different cultures. Christians back when people actually believed in it, Shi'a Muslims in the 1980s, Japanese in WW2. Thinking gets kinda warped. People who are prepared for martyrdom are very good at finding it.

Not saying that he was consciously thinking this. But as a certain frog :#marseycamus: once wrote, a person doesn't necessarily kill themself for one reason. They can kill themself for two reasons. The human brain is really good at merging all your different motives together and making you think it's a rational decision.

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What about Luigi Mangione? He very obviously let himself be caught in a very similar fashion. The culture of martyrdom isn't dead (hehe).

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A few years ago I would have posted video of basij in the 1980s as a joke. I can't do that anymore because I'm afraid my family would be punished. That's how far we've gone. It's not an independent country anymore.

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See also Splinter Cell: Double Agent

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I'm of two minds about him. Classic zealot who hurt his own cause more than the enemy. On the other hand I can't really condemn Jayhawkers too much. I wouldn't have been born if we all rolled over and let them genocide us.

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Now he's reduced to being a flair for succs on /r/neoliberal

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Reported by:

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He was actually kicked out of Kansas by the Free State side because surprisingly Kansans didn't take kindly to outsider peepeeheads decapitating their neighbors while screaming about God and generally shit stirring.

And he didn't actually kill any slavers in Kansas, he cut off a few people's heads with a sword for shit talking him, and then fought a Federal Marshal militia looking to arrest him.

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John Henry, an American folk hero who won a competition against a steam engine and dropped dead.

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John Brown would be labeled as a terrorist today, lmao.

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He was terrorist then lmao

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:marseysaluteconfederacy:

Away down south in Gruexie :marseybeanwinking:

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NEVER ask a Grue their opinion on terrorism

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One of the most spoiled demographics in history = chattel slavery. You're just too misogynistic to see it :marseyindignantwoman:

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They are more oppressed then slaves

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