EFFORTPOST Darksouls gaymers are the lowest form of life

I really hate that difficulty curves are dependent on memorizing movesets and nothing more complex.

i feel like platformers are generally the hardest: crash bandicoot 4, meatboy, end is nigh, celeste endgame. what would you consider some other really hard games

Tbh I just hate runbacks. Elden Ring was fun, but then jumping in to try DS1 was harsh.

I don't get why people don't get this. It's a challenging game but it's well known for being a challenging game because it's fair, doable for most people if you try hard enough and lacks the bullshit you would quit other hard games for, along with having fun gameplay that doesn't get boring if you die to a boss more than a couple times. It is not actually some sort of pinnacle of difficulty.

It's not a game for hardcore elitists to jerk themselves off to over how good they are for completing it. Pretty much anyone who regularly plays video games can beat it within a reasonable amount of time if they sit themselves down and put in the effort, which is why “git gud” isn't an empty comment. Most hard games are bad games that only appeal to mentally ill disgusting degenerates (see: gdq) because they're fundamentally not fun, souls games stand out because they're hard but actually fun.

not only is it not difficult,these clunky, awkward jap RPGs with their awful online components are without doubt the most overrated games ever made. The difficulty comes from the first 5 hours spent trying to figure out how anything in the game works, and then spending an hour on each boss figuring out attack patterns, unless you're fighting some annoying spammy shit like Aldrich and then it's just spending an hour rolling dice until you land on the right combination of moves and you win

frick soulsshit

I kept telling everybody who said the game is too hard it is just pattern recognition. I was able to beat Dark Souls 1 and 3 with a basic long sword & shield combo. Anybody who puts in some effort could beat the game no problem.

True but you have to put it into the perspective of AAA sony story games that refuse to let you fail or struggle.

I play most games strictly on easy mode and I easily beat a few of the souls games

I think the big red “you dead b-word” psychologically damages their weak minds

I can only speak for the first game so far but I agree and I think the difficulty it does have is fair. You can beat the main game by just out leveling any problem and if you're bad at one aspect of the game your build can get around it. (No need to parry with a zweihander )

New game plus cycles are harder but then you'd willingly be choosing to do those.

And even if it was is sure as frick isn't difficulty that requires twitch reactions, it's about learning the system.

Frick most games are like that, raw reactions checks are usually limited even in shit like Shoot Em Up (more shoot em ups should have practice modes for the patterns lol)

I think this misunderstanding comes from the fact that the game is built around you dying. The game expects you to die and there are mechanics around you dying you die woah man I died 7 times on this boss! This game must be hard!

>Not everything is for you.

That should be enough. These games also DO have an easy mode: summoning. Elden Ring even allows summoning of npcs that actually are better than other players in many situations.

Are these people saying that they want to be able to beat these games without summoning or are they so bad that they still can't win with summons? Either way, it's not the game for them.

There are evo tournaments (samurai showdown) where the average age of the top 8 was over 40.

Also in terms of reaction time I'd say sekiro is probably the only fromsoft game that really demands this. It's a rhythm game first and foremost but even then once you get used to it it's not impossible

My sister played DS3 and liked it and she's a normie (on a Sims 4 grindset right now )

I don't get where that meme came from

Average g*mer is used to AAA goyslop difficulty.

Nah plenty of older games were based on consistency the no life frequent checkpoint design of modern platformers means you can just bang your head at the wall until you get through vs something like old castlevainia where you had to get consistent at the levels (with the caveate being the levels being easier overall) there is a trade off between making super hard single screen challenges and making slightly easier challenges which require consistent mastery.

Which is something From fixed in later games, especially Elden Ring which pretty much always has a checkpoint (that you can teleport to and from, even to other places if the current one is too hard!) outside every boss battle.

A good counter-example is Nier: Automata, which forces you to play through a piss-easy 5 minute intro and fight two bosses before you get to have a checkpoint in its 1hp mode. No idea what the game is like beyond that, got bored after a day of attempts.