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Crystal Dynamics has added a content warning to Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered flagging what it described as racial and ethnic stereotypes.

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered includes new versions of the first three Tomb Raider games, developed by defunct UK studio Core Design in the mid-to-late ‘90s to massive sales success.

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered, out this week on modern consoles and PC, includes a message from current Tomb Raider custodian Crystal Dynamics that warns against some of the content in the games and explains why the developer chose to leave it in.

Does anyone even remember what these harmful and inexcusable things were???

apparently this

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17078571730213568.webp hahahaha no


As usual Kotaku is MAD :marseyraging:

https://archive.ph/BEAbl

Oof. Yes, the reason that—when updating aspects of Tomb Raider such as the art, sound and controls—they felt it important to leave in the “harmful” and “inexcusable” prejudice is because they want you to jolly well learn your lesson. This is such a spectacularly disingenuous message, seemingly an attempt to gobble down the racist cake without either a) thinking better of it, or b) altering the content to better reflect these claimed values. I've checked, and none of the game's marketing material mentions its woefully harmful content before you buy.

A cynic might surmise the developers don't actually care at all, but thought this quick screen would cover their backs. Although—and let's not mince words here—given Crystal Dynamics spent 2013 through 2018 making some of the most white-savior-promoting games in modern history, it's hard to exactly pin down where these values lie. Yes, sure, flag up-front that the games feel dated in their depictions of some cultures, absolutely. But pretending that selling them unadjusted is a virtuous act on the developers' part to offer us a vital and excoriating sociology lesson is gross and dishonest.

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TRIANGLE BOOBS ARE GOONEEEE !coomers THEY ARE GONE :pepereeeeee:


R/GAMES thread https://old.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1apyfwt/tomb_raider_13_remastered_includes_racial_and/

“The games in this collection contain offensive depictions of people and cultures rooted in racial and ethnic prejudices. These stereotypes are deeply harmful, inexcusable, and do not align with our values at Crystal Dynamics." "Rather than removing this content, we have chosen to present it here in its original form, unaltered, in the hopes that we may acknowledge its harmful impact and learn from it.”

I prefer a message, like this, instead of them going full on 4kids, but I find this part of the message funny:

and do not align with our values at Crystal Dynamics.

Implying these "harmful and inexcusable" stereotypes did align with Core Design and Eidos's values back in the day.

I am sure the person who wrote this didn't want this implication, but it's awkward how no one else noticed this. If they simply remove this part and keep it ambiguous, it would have been fine. I could see a number of former Core Design members complain about defamation thanks to this message.

The Warner Bros racism warning works because they were the ones that always published those cartoons, while Crystal Dynamics are the current caretakers thanks to Eidos.


i guarantee this'll be modded out day 1

i guarantee nexus mods will remove that mod day 5

i guarantee the mod will be archived and spread 10x more because of that.

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Imagine being such a sad person that you would use a mod to take out a content warning screen. :soysnoo:

someone get their feelings hurt? :chudsmug:

Yeah. By the looks of it, you did. :soyjakanimeglasses:


Now we come to our transistors

https://old.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/1aq1ld6/the_tomb_raider_collection_has_a_content_warning/

Its pure :ma#rseyseethe:

Wait until that guy who is excited about FF VII Remake learns they edited Tifa's lines so she no longer calls Barret the R word and also made the female characters actual characters and changed 90% of Wall Market so it's no longer an offensive gay joke but actually celebrates queer and drag culture

WTF SHOOT THOSE R-SLURS :marseymini:


KIA Thread thread https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1apuop8/from_tomb_raider_iiii_remastered_coming_out/

LOTS OF CONFUSION AND ANGER :marseyconfused2: :marseyrage: :marseyconfused: :marseyraging:


now lets see XITTER

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LOTS more if you go into the QTs :uwueyesblink: and replies of this

https://x.com/tombraidertweet/status/1757313706294149241

https://x.com/tombraidertweet/status/1757313706294149241/quotes

It still Fresh so I will keep adding more if worthy

@A pls pin for an hour


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I did a little :marseytroublemaker: buy copy pasting the Kotaku text on GCJ

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https://old.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/1aq1ld6/the_tomb_raider_collection_has_a_content_warning/kqaf3vv/?context=8


@cabalist reports

PCG*mer also be seething https://i.rdrama.net/images/17078603701418278.webp

Worst of all, the trilogy's depictions of anyone who isn't a sassy British tomb raider with a fondness for teal tank tops has, at best, aged like milk left out in the midday sun, and at their lowest points are nothing less than racist.

The remaster's accuracy does confirm that some parts of these games should have stayed buried, or at least not been uncritically reproduced without some official acknowledgement of their thoughtlessly offensive fumbles. So—same as always—this collection is the very best, and very worst, of Lara Croft's adventures.

Look at all the goodwill your stupid little disclaimer bought you, Crystal :marseythumbsup:

https://archive.is/nMySg


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Rightoids are genuine fricking imbeciles :marseyfacepalm:

They completely kept Lara's appearance, big tits, skimpy clothes etc. They didn't raceswap any characters or did any cultural bullshit. The games seem to be preserved as well as they can, some sensitivitycute twink just wanted to add a heckin trigger warning screen so they did to preemptively cover their asses, and they still get mad??

They don't deserve shit

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More reddit cute twinks on this site showing up.

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:soycryt#alking:

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Neighbour what do you think the "r" in rdrama stands for?

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R-slurred? :marseystroke:

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YOUR TIME IS SOON :#chudspingenocide:


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They just don't know how to pick their battles. The trigger warning is idiotic but this is infinitely better than getting the Roald Dahl/James Bond books treatment.

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Yeah I don't like the warnings either, Ubisoft has some cringy "this game was made by diverse teams from varied backgrounds..." shit in their games too, but as long as the game is untouched, this is honestly a win for chuds.

If this was a game made by :soyjakhipster: , they could've easily changed the character design and clothing, rewritten some cutscenes etc. if they were truly dedicated to make it less "problematic". Almost every remake, even remakes of much newer games, do this - Dead Space, FF7, RE4 too I think? - but this one didn't.

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"this game was made by diverse teams from varied backgrounds..."

This is both really weird and incredibly stupid. Almost all the good games I've played in the last decade were made by a small team or even a single person. And none of them had the same background as me.

I don't need Ubisoft to hire a token minority to draw cardboard boxes to get diversity. I already have it.

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Very true. As the last reddit comment says, they're in a lose/lose situation.

The problem, though, is they keep trying to appease the people who will never be satisfied and aren't their customer base. I'm sure that if this message wasn't included, they wouldn't be complaining about the racism and would have stuck to calling Lara Croft misogynist for her outfit and having tits. Like all trigger warnings it just draws more attention to the issue instead of heading it off.

So on the one hand g*mers should be happy that nothing else got DEId. But on the other, it's a poor situation if you're meant to be grateful to a company for not unnecessarily changing shit in a remaster. So,

:#marseyshrug:

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I think if they didn't include the message journos would still write hate pieces shit it because misogyny or whatever

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Exactly. They'll always attack, so the fig leaf of the warning screen was never going to do anything for the people it's meant to appease. It only irritates the people who will actually see it, the people who play the game.

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