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Crystal Dynamics has added a content warning to Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered flagging what it described as racial and ethnic stereotypes.
Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered includes new versions of the first three Tomb Raider games, developed by defunct UK studio Core Design in the mid-to-late ‘90s to massive sales success.
Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered, out this week on modern consoles and PC, includes a message from current Tomb Raider custodian Crystal Dynamics that warns against some of the content in the games and explains why the developer chose to leave it in.
Does anyone even remember what these harmful and inexcusable things were???
apparently this
As usual Kotaku is MAD
Oof. Yes, the reason that—when updating aspects of Tomb Raider such as the art, sound and controls—they felt it important to leave in the “harmful” and “inexcusable” prejudice is because they want you to jolly well learn your lesson. This is such a spectacularly disingenuous message, seemingly an attempt to gobble down the racist cake without either a) thinking better of it, or b) altering the content to better reflect these claimed values. I've checked, and none of the game's marketing material mentions its woefully harmful content before you buy.
A cynic might surmise the developers don't actually care at all, but thought this quick screen would cover their backs. Although—and let's not mince words here—given Crystal Dynamics spent 2013 through 2018 making some of the most white-savior-promoting games in modern history, it's hard to exactly pin down where these values lie. Yes, sure, flag up-front that the games feel dated in their depictions of some cultures, absolutely. But pretending that selling them unadjusted is a virtuous act on the developers' part to offer us a vital and excoriating sociology lesson is gross and dishonest.
TRIANGLE BOOBS ARE GOONEEEE !coomers THEY ARE GONE
R/GAMES thread https://old.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1apyfwt/tomb_raider_13_remastered_includes_racial_and/
“The games in this collection contain offensive depictions of people and cultures rooted in racial and ethnic prejudices. These stereotypes are deeply harmful, inexcusable, and do not align with our values at Crystal Dynamics." "Rather than removing this content, we have chosen to present it here in its original form, unaltered, in the hopes that we may acknowledge its harmful impact and learn from it.”
I prefer a message, like this, instead of them going full on 4kids, but I find this part of the message funny:
and do not align with our values at Crystal Dynamics.
Implying these "harmful and inexcusable" stereotypes did align with Core Design and Eidos's values back in the day.
I am sure the person who wrote this didn't want this implication, but it's awkward how no one else noticed this. If they simply remove this part and keep it ambiguous, it would have been fine. I could see a number of former Core Design members complain about defamation thanks to this message.
The Warner Bros racism warning works because they were the ones that always published those cartoons, while Crystal Dynamics are the current caretakers thanks to Eidos.
i guarantee this'll be modded out day 1
i guarantee nexus mods will remove that mod day 5
i guarantee the mod will be archived and spread 10x more because of that.
Imagine being such a sad person that you would use a mod to take out a content warning screen.
someone get their feelings hurt?
Yeah. By the looks of it, you did.
Now we come to our transistors
Its pure
Wait until that guy who is excited about FF VII Remake learns they edited Tifa's lines so she no longer calls Barret the R word and also made the female characters actual characters and changed 90% of Wall Market so it's no longer an offensive gay joke but actually celebrates queer and drag culture
WTF SHOOT THOSE R-SLURS
KIA Thread thread https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1apuop8/from_tomb_raider_iiii_remastered_coming_out/
LOTS OF CONFUSION AND ANGER
now lets see XITTER
LOTS more if you go into the QTs and replies of this
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It still Fresh so I will keep adding more if worthy
@A pls pin for an hour
updates
I did a little buy copy pasting the Kotaku text on GCJ
@cabalist reports
PCG*mer also be seething
Worst of all, the trilogy's depictions of anyone who isn't a sassy British tomb raider with a fondness for teal tank tops has, at best, aged like milk left out in the midday sun, and at their lowest points are nothing less than racist.
The remaster's accuracy does confirm that some parts of these games should have stayed buried, or at least not been uncritically reproduced without some official acknowledgement of their thoughtlessly offensive fumbles. So—same as always—this collection is the very best, and very worst, of Lara Croft's adventures.
Look at all the goodwill your stupid little disclaimer bought you, Crystal
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Do kids these days think everyone was a horrible racist in the dark ages of the 1990s?
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Yes, quite literally they think the 90's and early 2000's were not much different from the 50's and 60's.
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And the '50s and '60s were nowhere near as bad as these tards imagine.
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That depends on where you were. It was not a great time to be a black southerner.
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It only got bad around 1968. I suspect that a lot of people were doing drugs but still in control and '68 is when they became burnouts with no creativity left. Even Star Trek got pretty bad that year.
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Daddy Nixon tried to save us.
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They were better in a lot of ways. The likes of LBJ or Hubie Humphrey would never happen today.
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This you when you were ?
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It was 'catch a BIPOC by the toe' not 'catch a tiger by the toe' when I learned it in the '90s.
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Millennials also act like this, they think lynchings were a common thing in the 50s and everyone in the 90s spent all day beating up kids at school
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It's the decade when for kids being gay gradually became the new way to be cool and get attention.
I don't want to say it was easy to be gay. There were real consequences. But that pretty much would come from lowbrow dumbasses and hyper religious parents of kids you knew.
But we did say cute twink. We said that a lot.
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lmao yes. People were much more racist 30 years ago by every metric.
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Good bait bb I predict you will get another half dozen bites
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Probably not.
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making unsubstantiated claims and refusing to elaborate is based
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And society was better for it.
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To a lot of people, all of history is just incredibly evil men getting away with their incredibly wicked deeds.
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Actually sweaty, independent fact checkers have verified this to be true!
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Also the dark ages didn't end until 2012.
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idc about the content but the disclaimer is so disingenuous lol
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I'll give them props for keeping the original content at least
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It's like when Fox in the '90s would have "warnings":
The following program includes graphic footage of violence, drug use, women wearing virtually nothing, and lots of other really cool stuff.
Viewer discretion is advised.
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Good post about Tomb Raider Remastered causing seethe and pearlclutching.
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Yes because chuds are the ones clamboring for content warnings for woke media
How dare they value your intelligence as a human being. They shouldve treated their customers like children
Thats the irony isnt it? Games that were appropiate for children in 1996 are now inexusable to show to adults who now exclusively dine on a diet of marvel, a 24 and animesque cartoon network shows
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Absolute motherfricking banger sentence that perfects sums up the absurdity
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You absolutely know they would though if Trump or Hannity or Shapiro or whoever suggested the concept to them, let's not pretend chuds are immune to propaganda
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Oh yea im completely in agreement. Patriot warnings would definitely be a thing if chuds had any control over mainstream pop culture. My point is just that redditor leftoids will gatekeep and call out chudflakes while letting the door open for the r*pe of art by what are to them the right people
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Why? It's a shared preference, which made them more likable in the first place.
Maybe you're looking at this like an r-slur?
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Who just watches a 24 episode?
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The movie studio
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LMAO the remake which made every female into one dimensional ship fuel for cloud?
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“Actual characters” is such a funny thing to call anythig from a pulp sci fi g*mer franchise
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ESP ff7 remake which is hipster smug meta multiverse slop ripped right from a low quality DC comics event the only difference is its japanese so weebs will pretend its magically different and way better. That Dweeb Tim Rodgers compared this shit heel remake to an Orson Wells film thats how delusional weebs are
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JRPGs are objectively bad, so has Sqenix ever made a good game?
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I think they actually made Sleeping Dogs iirc.
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I liked this at first but got stuck on a car chase mission because the cars handle like shit and dropped it, should I pick it up again and power through?
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You don't play games.
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it's par for the course for GCJ
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FF7R is good.
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Just like real life then, huh?
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South Pacific Islanders are some of the most fricking stuck in the past peoples TODAY. What the heck is he even crying about? Those frickers light fires underneath plastic bottles to make tea and soups.
They're dumb as hellll.
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r-slurs who take the internet seriously spend all their time trying to prove that it's really the other team who's taking it seriously. It's so unfortunate.
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anyone who still debates or even argues in this era of the internet is a literal r-slur.
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Rightoids are genuine fricking imbeciles
They completely kept Lara's appearance, big tits, skimpy clothes etc. They didn't raceswap any characters or did any cultural bullshit. The games seem to be preserved as well as they can, some sensitivitycute twink just wanted to add a heckin trigger warning screen so they did to preemptively cover their asses, and they still get mad??
They don't deserve shit
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They just don't know how to pick their battles. The trigger warning is idiotic but this is infinitely better than getting the Roald Dahl/James Bond books treatment.
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Yeah I don't like the warnings either, Ubisoft has some cringy "this game was made by diverse teams from varied backgrounds..." shit in their games too, but as long as the game is untouched, this is honestly a win for chuds.
If this was a game made by , they could've easily changed the character design and clothing, rewritten some cutscenes etc. if they were truly dedicated to make it less "problematic". Almost every remake, even remakes of much newer games, do this - Dead Space, FF7, RE4 too I think? - but this one didn't.
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This is both really weird and incredibly stupid. Almost all the good games I've played in the last decade were made by a small team or even a single person. And none of them had the same background as me.
I don't need Ubisoft to hire a token minority to draw cardboard boxes to get diversity. I already have it.
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Very true. As the last reddit comment says, they're in a lose/lose situation.
The problem, though, is they keep trying to appease the people who will never be satisfied and aren't their customer base. I'm sure that if this message wasn't included, they wouldn't be complaining about the racism and would have stuck to calling Lara Croft misogynist for her outfit and having tits. Like all trigger warnings it just draws more attention to the issue instead of heading it off.
So on the one hand g*mers should be happy that nothing else got DEId. But on the other, it's a poor situation if you're meant to be grateful to a company for not unnecessarily changing shit in a remaster. So,
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I think if they didn't include the message journos would still write hate pieces shit it because misogyny or whatever
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Exactly. They'll always attack, so the fig leaf of the warning screen was never going to do anything for the people it's meant to appease. It only irritates the people who will actually see it, the people who play the game.
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More reddit cute twinks on this site showing up.
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Neighbour what do you think the "r" in rdrama stands for?
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R-slurred?
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YOUR TIME IS SOON
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Retvrn to comedic ethnic accents
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My friends and neighbors sound like this IRL so I guess they have no chance of being voice actors.
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PCG*mer also be seething
Look at all the goodwill your stupid little disclaimer bought you, Crystal
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God I can't wait until all game journos get laid off
Some of them might even get into "real" journ*lism afterwards and.... make it even worse
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All game journ*lists should be sent back in time to be buried in the same landfill those et cartridges were
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I take it back, gaymer journos can keep their jobs because at least then they'll stay irrelevant for the rest of their lives
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If you think AI journos won't be spouting off the same sanctimonious lines you gonna be real
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I don't care about the quality of gaming journ*lism, I'd just be happy seeing these people out of jobs!
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bb I'm just saying you gonna see a lot more of this shit after they out of jobs
Cause AI does it for FREEEEE
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Real juniors are getting laid off too though. We just need to keep shuttering entire industries these people try to join.
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Would anyone even have remembered that the early games were racist if the devs didn't remind them? I honestly can't remember anyone ever complaining about it before
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Probably not. I have doubts the journos would even play far enough in to see much stereotyping.
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Back in the day Computer Gaming World had a rule that you could only review a game if you had beaten it. Some people had to spend 80 hours playing a game they hated just to be able to publish a 1-star review.
That's back when we had ethics in game journ*lism.
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So what? Video game discourse on this site is shaped by people who stopped playing games in 2011.
It's easy to call new games slop, it is tough to accurately rate them. ITT alone there are so many r-slurred opinions that I genuinely believe no one here actually plays anything.
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You come from a place where they stopped playing games in 1991.
You try to talk to them about Darklands (1992) and you realize they never played it. They just pretend they did so they still serm relevant.
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Comes off with the same energy as the Tiki bar I went to this weekend with a land acknowledgement
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Wonderful post cyberdock
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Imagine purchasing a game where you have to play a w*man !incels
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NGMI
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Very submissive behavior bb, have you joined !bottoms yet?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DEEPLY HARMFUL OH MY GOD
there's not a single person on earth who was harmed in any way by the depictions in this game
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Except maybe stupid women who were duped into getting breast implants. One of the worst tragedies of the 1990s.
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I kinda feel bad for Aspyr, as much as I've shit on them in the past (their Episode One Racer port is horrendous), clearly somebody working on this remaster gave a shit, with a lot of ported features from fan decompilations that most people won't notice but are actually really nice, like being able to do TR2 midair rolls in TR1. They even hired the guy who did the main decomp work on TR3/4/5 for this. It feels like Crystal Dynamics threw them under the bus.
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I'd be super happy if they would port the forward roll off the ledge from TR5 into TR3. Being in a crawlspace and getting to the end, then having to spend the next 30 seconds turning around so you can lower yourself down is boring as frick. Just let me jump out.
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In GCJ post they still shit on stellar blade more than talk about Tomb raider
'i hope it sucks' let's be real even if it doesn't you will pretend that it does
Just like kiatards will pretend that it doesn't of it does
Losers, them all all losers
Also, at least they kept Lara's tits fanservicy enough
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Mirroring real life, tomb raider games stop being enjoyable as soon as you encounter another person
Trans lives matter
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if you're not actively archiving shit you enjoy yourself then you're absolutely not going to fricking make it.
then, sincerely, good luck in the next ten years. this is gonna be a frick-frick festival beyond imagining.
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@AuntyAbortion only played the first one. What's wrong with it? Not enough nogs and chinks? Can't remember any depiction of any culture.
Certainly not something too elicit such strong reactions. People really do pretend too care about the most pathetic stuff.
Trans lives matter.
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Some of the scenes actually look worse in the remastered edition
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I do not recall being professionally offended that Pong didn't adequately represent squares.
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